Blocktopia Mafia Season 7
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At th' moment, here's my view on things.
Th' only way for me t' truly prove my innocence would be for th' skeleton t' die and for me t' get hit by only one faction (I'm not even bein' subtle about what my role is now). I also don't find Jk and whoever is th' copycat suspicious at all, since there was never a mention of an extra mafia member or SK. Considering I can't be suspicious of myself, I have a few people that I suspect as well:
-Grimmjow (conditional)
-Balloon (conditional)
-Oak
-Dess
-Kylie
-Hype
Why do I have Grimm and Balloon as conditional? Because one of them has t' be th' copycat. Jk told us they're based off of a hunch (along with notty). I trust notty's claim enough t' not be suspicious of him and t' remove my thoughts on who's th' copycat, leaving those 2. Since he didn't give any reason for them, there's one he trusts and one that's associating with him. All we'd need t' do is figure out who's been voting more closely with him t' figure out who.
As for my major suspicions, whoever isn't th' copycat, Oak, Dess and Hype are under my radar. From there, it's a matter of who's th' most suspicious, which I'll have t' figure out. I'm not really as worried with Oak as I am with Dess and Hype. For suspicions, I'm gonna trust Jk on this and vote for Hype with hope that he's th' SK.
Th' only way for me t' truly prove my innocence would be for th' skeleton t' die and for me t' get hit by only one faction (I'm not even bein' subtle about what my role is now). I also don't find Jk and whoever is th' copycat suspicious at all, since there was never a mention of an extra mafia member or SK. Considering I can't be suspicious of myself, I have a few people that I suspect as well:
-Grimmjow (conditional)
-Balloon (conditional)
-Oak
-Dess
-Kylie
-Hype
Why do I have Grimm and Balloon as conditional? Because one of them has t' be th' copycat. Jk told us they're based off of a hunch (along with notty). I trust notty's claim enough t' not be suspicious of him and t' remove my thoughts on who's th' copycat, leaving those 2. Since he didn't give any reason for them, there's one he trusts and one that's associating with him. All we'd need t' do is figure out who's been voting more closely with him t' figure out who.
As for my major suspicions, whoever isn't th' copycat, Oak, Dess and Hype are under my radar. From there, it's a matter of who's th' most suspicious, which I'll have t' figure out. I'm not really as worried with Oak as I am with Dess and Hype. For suspicions, I'm gonna trust Jk on this and vote for Hype with hope that he's th' SK.
balloon98
The balloon that never pops
Same I actually think I know who it is as well ;D also why do you write you t's differently if I may ask since you always go like t' and th' an I was curious
Voting for hype seems iffy Im thinking that since he was with notty on the cop idea maybe he is the cop since he really was pushing for it? Idk of course he could have been mafia trying to get the idea going so they could have pretended to be the cop with the contacts info but I mean there is no way to be sure.
If they were the mafia trying to get something out of the cop, it is a huge risk for them. There is still chance the cop might have gotten the names of the mafia. I'd like to go with the assumption that they had already thought of this and ruled it out.
I write 'em like that out of habit. I try not t' do it much when writin' a paragraph since it can get confusing.
And I'm not so sure about it after thinkin'. My main thought was that Oak and Dess are mafia, since they are 2/3 of my main suspicions, so by that, Hype would be SK (according t' my thoughts) and thus a bigger threat.I'm not as sure now, but I still feel strongly enough t' vote.
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
I can agree to a point (obviously the point being when JK voting for me) with JK's statement. I feel Ltin and Digi can be crossed off the list of suspects with them claiming they were pleasured without anyone contesting it. Same could be said for JK himself, no one has contested his claim that the copycat copied him but he could always be the SK with the copycat copying him, thus explaining why the copycat is reluctant to show themselves and this whole "I REALLY wish the copycat would let me reveal who they are" could just be a ploy to make his innocence seem more genuine.
What I would like to point out is that by around top 7 or 8 of the suspicion list. The logic turns into a guessing game. Notty, Balloon and Grimm are marked off because JK has a hunch that they are town, no real anti-criminal evidence just what he is drawn to thinking. Then the list is narrowed down to five, five people that include two I believe that I created a rather solid case against, Dess and Old. I've been questioning my thoughts on Dessern recently but I'm still quite adamant on my thoughts of them. The last three names are Harm, Kylie and of course me. JK has already expressed his trust for Kylie so that leaves Harm and Me.
Now, considering this timer is ticking down, I feel like I need to say this in case of a possible Mis-lynch. I can understand why JK would think I was guilty if he is the cop. If a cop was to investigate me and find my role, they would be rightfully apprehensive to believe it. I think most, if not all of us understand what I am claiming to be. But for my safety, from the mafia, SK and the vigilant (who seems to be slaying townies this way and that), I dont want to exclaim it out, in case someone that could be of danger to me didnt understand what I was saying.
The justification for my lynch amongst the other four people seems impulsive. "He just seems, TOO innocent to be innocent." Well It may have been my over-activeness on this thread or my desire for Notty's plan to work out, that made me seem too innocent. But maybe, just maybe, It could be because I actually am innocent? Hmm. And my activeness on this thread may seem too large to be a non-power role, (As seen in people like Jeff and Dillon from last season, and Digi (I think) from this season) but in retrospect my activity has been average at best. The only reason why I believe that I look like a post so much is that well, not trying to be mean here, but a lot of others in this game, are quiet as fuck and I was just trying to keep this thread alive. Now my activity might not even be apart of JK's thoughts that I'm too innocent but if it is then that is why.
I guess the point I'm trying to convey is that the justification for my lynching isnt as conclusive as what I said about Dess and Old, so I dont understand why the votes are stacking up against me, when I believe there are far better candidates for the vote. I wouldnt make this post if I didnt feel threatened and that the town's people are making a big mistake.
What I would like to point out is that by around top 7 or 8 of the suspicion list. The logic turns into a guessing game. Notty, Balloon and Grimm are marked off because JK has a hunch that they are town, no real anti-criminal evidence just what he is drawn to thinking. Then the list is narrowed down to five, five people that include two I believe that I created a rather solid case against, Dess and Old. I've been questioning my thoughts on Dessern recently but I'm still quite adamant on my thoughts of them. The last three names are Harm, Kylie and of course me. JK has already expressed his trust for Kylie so that leaves Harm and Me.
Now, considering this timer is ticking down, I feel like I need to say this in case of a possible Mis-lynch. I can understand why JK would think I was guilty if he is the cop. If a cop was to investigate me and find my role, they would be rightfully apprehensive to believe it. I think most, if not all of us understand what I am claiming to be. But for my safety, from the mafia, SK and the vigilant (who seems to be slaying townies this way and that), I dont want to exclaim it out, in case someone that could be of danger to me didnt understand what I was saying.
The justification for my lynch amongst the other four people seems impulsive. "He just seems, TOO innocent to be innocent." Well It may have been my over-activeness on this thread or my desire for Notty's plan to work out, that made me seem too innocent. But maybe, just maybe, It could be because I actually am innocent? Hmm. And my activeness on this thread may seem too large to be a non-power role, (As seen in people like Jeff and Dillon from last season, and Digi (I think) from this season) but in retrospect my activity has been average at best. The only reason why I believe that I look like a post so much is that well, not trying to be mean here, but a lot of others in this game, are quiet as fuck and I was just trying to keep this thread alive. Now my activity might not even be apart of JK's thoughts that I'm too innocent but if it is then that is why.
I guess the point I'm trying to convey is that the justification for my lynching isnt as conclusive as what I said about Dess and Old, so I dont understand why the votes are stacking up against me, when I believe there are far better candidates for the vote. I wouldnt make this post if I didnt feel threatened and that the town's people are making a big mistake.
Well, jk, i know you claim to know who the copycat is, but most of us (or at least me) dont. which means that if the copycat copied me or digi, then we wouldnt be able to act if pleasured, but the copycat would stilll be able to. (right alpha)?
Ltin's post does make him look semi-suspicious to me. Not sure how to feel about it though. However, the arguments brought up against Hype are to convincing for me. I am voting HypeBurst. Not those of you who think that Hype is innocent, don't go writing this as me saying I don't want hype around because I seemed suspicious to her.
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
JKangaroo May I ask what makes me seem "too innocent"? Considering that is your only argument against me and you haven't elaborated on why it is. And Harm and Dess are very eager to jump onto a vote, calling it "logic" or "convincing" when it has no kind of actual substance behind it. Its just because JK said it so it must be true.
Not because of Jk. At this point, I'm somewhat sure of my suspicions of who is what role. With that in mind, I left Dess and Oak alone for now since I think they're working together as mafia and pleaser. I can't go for either Grimmjow or balloon (although I'm fairly certain which one is th' copycat) because I'm still not sure enough to base my vote on it, and it risks revealing who is the copycat (or who I think it is). Leaving me at you to think you're the serial killer (unless whoever the copycat is reveals himself, allowing me to put suspicion towards that person who isn't). At this point, it's really a 50/50 shot of getting the serial killer between you and whoever isn't the copycat.
Only reason I'm not suspicious of Jk is because no message of an extra mafia member or SK was brought up and his claims that th' copycat copied him are solid enough for me.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
First of all, I would like to clarify some... misconceptions and some rather rash statements without noting the important point I was trying to make earlier, as well as give some answers.
Before I discuss some points, let me remind everyone, specifically Hype and somewhat digi (since she asked why hype?) about the main "idea" that was SUPPOSED to be kept in mind in terms of the actual point of the idea I actually proposed.
I quote:
It's an idea that could have been proposed by a potential Mafia member, yes.
But, it's also an idea that could have been proposed by a civilian, vigilante, Mayor, copper, lucky civilian, copycat; a Townie, in simple case.
I never said you had to go along with anything about the idea, its just an idea proposed because I felt this game has already been won, purely based on where we are now.
I never said it was fullproof, because its not, nothing is.
Its something based on what YOU, the player, believes to be true, not true, suspicious, whatever.
It's a risk, but again, as I said afterwards in that quote, I feel this is the only time when we CAN, and in fact SHOULD take a risk without it biting us in the ass, because the more innocents that die, the more that ratio between Anti-town (currently 3), and actually town/civilians (currently 8) will shrink, and shrink, and that could just cost us the game because we either will be in a situation in which all the people we could trust are dead and we're essentially left on a guessing game, or we die just by getting lower than the needed amount for the Mafia to win.
I don't want that.
Yes, there is just as much of a likely chance that I could be the Serial Killer with the copycat being one as well, just as likely as I could also be a similar theory in which, due to the fact that the Copycat's choice is a 2-player team, I could just as likely be secretly the Mafia all along, lying that the copycat copied my role and in turn protecting myself since, as it turns out, it just so happens that only 2 Mafia remain; which seems strangely similar to a copycat-pairing (ignoring the fact real copycat could have claimed in this scenario), and yet, it is still just as likely I am any other role besides the Serial Killer.
I have yet to deny nor confirm anything in terms of my role; I've always left it up to the player, specifically YOU (which means everyone since YOU are reading this). I've said this before because this is Mafia: you can't really FULLY trust anything because you don't KNOW anything to begin with unless you are the cop/contact (but even then there's the complication of not believing or believing in the wrong person if both are alive).
That's why its up to the player to decide whom he/she believes can be innocent, and whom can be suspicious.
So yes, there is that chance, but I'm placing my trust that the remaining players can believe I am not the Serial Killer or any other role, and have the towns interests at heart. It's a risk, plain and simple.
And again, that overarching idea of being able to trust whom you think you can.
This is not my argument, in fact it clearly isn't mine seeing as I stated prior to it: "In the words of someone else." This is not my logic, nor is it really logic at all seeing as it was only a single, nit-picked statement out of the entire argument.
In fact there IS NO ARGUMENT to begin with, because, once again, this all based on a chance, risk, etc.
A reminder if you will about the whole idea PRIOR to the actual vote, because if read and understood, this defensive tactic would be null and void seeing as once again, the entire reason we are discussing this is based on a CHANCE, on the fact of TRUST, and being able to POOL SUSPECTED ANTI-TOWN based on what we already know.
Again, it's a chance. It's a risk. That's the overarching lesson and idea and etc that I've been trying to repeat but it doesn't seem to have stuck for some reason.
If I must repeat from my previous post, THE GAME IS AT A STANDSTILL. We are on a time-limit, perhaps 26-27 hours at most now? We need to decide on a vote sooner rather than later, and because it seems no one has wanted to bring forth any evidence or discussion "recently," or anything that can really be thought out into great detail, we need something REASONABLE; and to me, a greater chance based on, now, it's perhaps not even a pool of 7-8, rather shorter based on recent statements, so EVEN greater chance that we can possibly catch an anti-town through luck, I am on board with that, willing I can trust people not suspected enough for a vote.
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Let us go onto some basic ideas that we can "hopefully" trust that has actually led to the actual vote.
The whole idea was based on our current pool of players, that being 11.
-1 player, whom has my role, is the copycat. We know he cannot be Mafia seeing as Alpha has not said a player actually joined them (However only I, and anyone who's guessed correctly in their mind can cross that off since I nor the copycat has said who they are)
-^I "hopefully" can be trusted as a townie based on the fact that I was copied by the copycat, though I don't deny I can be SK, but that just increase the pool for you.
-Digitalmez and Ltin can potentially be considered trusted based on the idea that all Killing-roles (Vig, SK, maf) have attacked each night besides the Mafia not being noted in the previous night (hitting the SK or Lucky Civ), and since Digi and Ltin claim they were pleasured, they can be none of those roles
-If I am not mistaken Harmak has basically claimed Vigilante at this point (read his post which states he isn't even going to hide his role at this point), and unless we can TRUST that he is (note the cop should totally investigate in case Harm turns up a civilian in which we know he is the SK), and so we can cross him off
So basically that takes away 5, leaving us with a pool of six consisting of: (7 here since I won't reveal the copycat unless they want to)
-Balloon
-Notty (Claims Lucky Civilian, hasn't been proven)
-Hype
-Oak (Claimed civilian at one point, I'm certain of that, but also hasn't been proven)
-Dess
-Grimmjow
-Or Kylie
Here let us look at one of Hypes post:
After reading over this I've come to the realization that basically any suspicions you have on a player, any so called "evidence" or "acting shifty" or "mafia-like" or whatever, is essentially just all a lie.
Again we go to the notion that we don't know what people's actual roles are, we can't tell if that's their play-style, there actual imaginations or theories or how they actually think in terms of what seems suspicious to them, it could be the way they write, type, etc. It can be ANYTHING. (unless of course its actual claim by the actual cop be he/she actually knows his shiz)
Yes we can suspect, but, in the end, there isn't anything "conclusive" against Dess, nor Oak, nor you. It's just what we WANT TO THINK.
Yes, I am also fairly suspicious of Dess and Oak, but, I must also agree with something Harmak has pointed out:
If we want, we can take personal bias into account and say well take away people whom we "feel" we can trust, but that's still just all apart of the risk.
In the end it'll still be a chance out of anyone in there, and since there hasn't been the case of you, or any of these others in the list that have given a reason or suspicion or hint at their true roles, we have to assume.
They could be Mafia, they could be a potential SK, they could be a townie still, we don't know. In fact I would think if they were Mafia, since we've been suspecting those two so much, would have investigated them by now and if they were Mafia I would HOPE they actually would have said so by now.
There is still that chance. Nothing is certain at this point.
And so, to answer your question, the reason I am voting for you because you are one of those in that pool whom I feel can be believed to be anti-town based on all the ideas that we can gather. Though they may not all be true, they are our, in my opinion, best bet, and again:
I am willing to take that risk. [/quote]
Before I discuss some points, let me remind everyone, specifically Hype and somewhat digi (since she asked why hype?) about the main "idea" that was SUPPOSED to be kept in mind in terms of the actual point of the idea I actually proposed.
I quote:
It's an idea that could have been proposed by the Serial Killer, yes.
It's an idea that could have been proposed by a potential Mafia member, yes.
But, it's also an idea that could have been proposed by a civilian, vigilante, Mayor, copper, lucky civilian, copycat; a Townie, in simple case.
I never said you had to go along with anything about the idea, its just an idea proposed because I felt this game has already been won, purely based on where we are now.
I never said it was fullproof, because its not, nothing is.
Its something based on what YOU, the player, believes to be true, not true, suspicious, whatever.
It's a risk, but again, as I said afterwards in that quote, I feel this is the only time when we CAN, and in fact SHOULD take a risk without it biting us in the ass, because the more innocents that die, the more that ratio between Anti-town (currently 3), and actually town/civilians (currently 8) will shrink, and shrink, and that could just cost us the game because we either will be in a situation in which all the people we could trust are dead and we're essentially left on a guessing game, or we die just by getting lower than the needed amount for the Mafia to win.
I don't want that.
The fact is that no one has exactly contested such a claim because really, that's all it is: a claim, there is nothing to back up or even remotely prove or trust a claim.
Yes, there is just as much of a likely chance that I could be the Serial Killer with the copycat being one as well, just as likely as I could also be a similar theory in which, due to the fact that the Copycat's choice is a 2-player team, I could just as likely be secretly the Mafia all along, lying that the copycat copied my role and in turn protecting myself since, as it turns out, it just so happens that only 2 Mafia remain; which seems strangely similar to a copycat-pairing (ignoring the fact real copycat could have claimed in this scenario), and yet, it is still just as likely I am any other role besides the Serial Killer.
I have yet to deny nor confirm anything in terms of my role; I've always left it up to the player, specifically YOU (which means everyone since YOU are reading this). I've said this before because this is Mafia: you can't really FULLY trust anything because you don't KNOW anything to begin with unless you are the cop/contact (but even then there's the complication of not believing or believing in the wrong person if both are alive).
That's why its up to the player to decide whom he/she believes can be innocent, and whom can be suspicious.
So yes, there is that chance, but I'm placing my trust that the remaining players can believe I am not the Serial Killer or any other role, and have the towns interests at heart. It's a risk, plain and simple.
And again, that overarching idea of being able to trust whom you think you can.
And here you are also considerably forgetting a simple phrase I uttered in my previous post, and if read, these statements/post shouldn't even be here:
I went to ask my partner, the copycat (since we get a Convo room together, its stated in the rules) if they were willing to let me announce who they were (because honestly for the idea to work to its greatest potential, we need to know/be able to "trust" in people remaining alive and narrow down are choices, which also brought up who was suspicious enough to warrant a space in those pool of suspects.
This is not my argument, in fact it clearly isn't mine seeing as I stated prior to it: "In the words of someone else." This is not my logic, nor is it really logic at all seeing as it was only a single, nit-picked statement out of the entire argument.
In fact there IS NO ARGUMENT to begin with, because, once again, this all based on a chance, risk, etc.
A reminder if you will about the whole idea PRIOR to the actual vote, because if read and understood, this defensive tactic would be null and void seeing as once again, the entire reason we are discussing this is based on a CHANCE, on the fact of TRUST, and being able to POOL SUSPECTED ANTI-TOWN based on what we already know.
Again, it's a chance. It's a risk. That's the overarching lesson and idea and etc that I've been trying to repeat but it doesn't seem to have stuck for some reason.
If I must repeat from my previous post, THE GAME IS AT A STANDSTILL. We are on a time-limit, perhaps 26-27 hours at most now? We need to decide on a vote sooner rather than later, and because it seems no one has wanted to bring forth any evidence or discussion "recently," or anything that can really be thought out into great detail, we need something REASONABLE; and to me, a greater chance based on, now, it's perhaps not even a pool of 7-8, rather shorter based on recent statements, so EVEN greater chance that we can possibly catch an anti-town through luck, I am on board with that, willing I can trust people not suspected enough for a vote.
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Let us go onto some basic ideas that we can "hopefully" trust that has actually led to the actual vote.
The whole idea was based on our current pool of players, that being 11.
-1 player, whom has my role, is the copycat. We know he cannot be Mafia seeing as Alpha has not said a player actually joined them (However only I, and anyone who's guessed correctly in their mind can cross that off since I nor the copycat has said who they are)
-^I "hopefully" can be trusted as a townie based on the fact that I was copied by the copycat, though I don't deny I can be SK, but that just increase the pool for you.
-Digitalmez and Ltin can potentially be considered trusted based on the idea that all Killing-roles (Vig, SK, maf) have attacked each night besides the Mafia not being noted in the previous night (hitting the SK or Lucky Civ), and since Digi and Ltin claim they were pleasured, they can be none of those roles
-If I am not mistaken Harmak has basically claimed Vigilante at this point (read his post which states he isn't even going to hide his role at this point), and unless we can TRUST that he is (note the cop should totally investigate in case Harm turns up a civilian in which we know he is the SK), and so we can cross him off
So basically that takes away 5, leaving us with a pool of six consisting of: (7 here since I won't reveal the copycat unless they want to)
-Balloon
-Notty (Claims Lucky Civilian, hasn't been proven)
-Hype
-Oak (Claimed civilian at one point, I'm certain of that, but also hasn't been proven)
-Dess
-Grimmjow
-Or Kylie
Here let us look at one of Hypes post:
I would like to disagree.
After reading over this I've come to the realization that basically any suspicions you have on a player, any so called "evidence" or "acting shifty" or "mafia-like" or whatever, is essentially just all a lie.
Again we go to the notion that we don't know what people's actual roles are, we can't tell if that's their play-style, there actual imaginations or theories or how they actually think in terms of what seems suspicious to them, it could be the way they write, type, etc. It can be ANYTHING. (unless of course its actual claim by the actual cop be he/she actually knows his shiz)
Yes we can suspect, but, in the end, there isn't anything "conclusive" against Dess, nor Oak, nor you. It's just what we WANT TO THINK.
Yes, I am also fairly suspicious of Dess and Oak, but, I must also agree with something Harmak has pointed out:
Again, this all based on whom we think we can trust, and whom we can consider probable suspects.
If we want, we can take personal bias into account and say well take away people whom we "feel" we can trust, but that's still just all apart of the risk.
In the end it'll still be a chance out of anyone in there, and since there hasn't been the case of you, or any of these others in the list that have given a reason or suspicion or hint at their true roles, we have to assume.
They could be Mafia, they could be a potential SK, they could be a townie still, we don't know. In fact I would think if they were Mafia, since we've been suspecting those two so much, would have investigated them by now and if they were Mafia I would HOPE they actually would have said so by now.
There is still that chance. Nothing is certain at this point.
And so, to answer your question, the reason I am voting for you because you are one of those in that pool whom I feel can be believed to be anti-town based on all the ideas that we can gather. Though they may not all be true, they are our, in my opinion, best bet, and again:
I am willing to take that risk. [/quote]
Oak Milk
Kill Hungry Thirsty Dead
I noticed I’m getting very lazy posting here, oh well, time to take care of that then.
Sooo first on the agenda, I appear to be mafia suspect Number 1, or at least so people keep pointing out that that’s what they suspect. Well before you go off voting on theories which base me as a mafia member you should probably take note of a few tidbits here and there that I don’t quite think add up.
Yes this is a defensive post I’m part of the town yak yak yak yak, I don’t feel I need to go through a flowing essay which says how I am innocent and you shouldn’t lynch me, its far easier to just show you why you shouldn’t be so certain I am mafia.
So quite obviously the reason why you all suspect me so deeply is basically because of the mislynches I’ve made and the arguments I also made against Jkangaroo, as well as it looked like I was voting with the mafia. I said it before, I was working on a theory that revolved around Jkangaroo being Serial Killer (although at times I thought there was a chance he might have been mafia) and I felt that superstein and 77 were a bit too defensive of each other than normal.
I was also apart of the lynch against storm which not everyone agreed on. Here is the first interesting part of that though
But there is more, if you recall the whole situation, it started when nottykitten pointed out this
And yet in this post by Jivvi it seems I am being put under more suspicion by yet another mafia member
Again just another example of me being put under the hammer for my actions by a mafia member, I’m sure there are also many more.
That’s all I have for now, oh and I have never once confirmed or denied my role however I now claim my role as a plain civilian. Make of it what you will, but remembering that we have a limited amount of time to get a good lynch off.
Sooo first on the agenda, I appear to be mafia suspect Number 1, or at least so people keep pointing out that that’s what they suspect. Well before you go off voting on theories which base me as a mafia member you should probably take note of a few tidbits here and there that I don’t quite think add up.
Yes this is a defensive post I’m part of the town yak yak yak yak, I don’t feel I need to go through a flowing essay which says how I am innocent and you shouldn’t lynch me, its far easier to just show you why you shouldn’t be so certain I am mafia.
So quite obviously the reason why you all suspect me so deeply is basically because of the mislynches I’ve made and the arguments I also made against Jkangaroo, as well as it looked like I was voting with the mafia. I said it before, I was working on a theory that revolved around Jkangaroo being Serial Killer (although at times I thought there was a chance he might have been mafia) and I felt that superstein and 77 were a bit too defensive of each other than normal.
I was also apart of the lynch against storm which not everyone agreed on. Here is the first interesting part of that though
Now remembering Road to Ruin was the godfather, it makes no sense to pressure me into talking, especially if I was mafia, if I was a towny on the other hand, it’s a perfectly understandable move.
But there is more, if you recall the whole situation, it started when nottykitten pointed out this
And yet in this post by Jivvi it seems I am being put under more suspicion by yet another mafia member
Again just another example of me being put under the hammer for my actions by a mafia member, I’m sure there are also many more.
That’s all I have for now, oh and I have never once confirmed or denied my role however I now claim my role as a plain civilian. Make of it what you will, but remembering that we have a limited amount of time to get a good lynch off.
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
-Working on a longish post, accidentally click the red x, fucking grumble grumble grumble-
I tried to address all parts of your post JK but well things happen and I feel like I'm going to be lynched anyway so I'll just refer to the end.
Heh, don't try and say, "oh the arguments against Hype are soooo good, I'm voting for him, it has nothing to do with him suspecting me", I mean come on, Its downright obvious this is almost all based upon me figuring out your mafia deeds. If I was in that situation that you are in now, I'd jump at the chance to get rid of you, even if it turned out that I wasn't mafia, just to stay in the game. JK can't create a convincing argument on the case against me because it was his colleague who was suspecting me. Therefore there's no "convincing" argument against me, and really just want me out. If it was ANYONE elses name in that position, you wouldn't have much more hesitant to bandwagon on that vote. Now, I'm just waiting for Old's vote against me.
Btw, if that paragraph seemed aggressive, its not suppose to be (Love you Dessy)
I would really like it if the copycat could answer why they think I'm too innocent, it would be swell to justify myself fully, rather than communicating through a messenger.
And yes there is an argument actually, your colleague's case against me which I argued against therefore there is an argument. Just because the opinions of the two people who are arguing is aren't 100% backed up, doesn't mean they aren't arguing. If it is not an argument, it is two people, or one person and a messenger, with conflicting opinions expressing themselves. <--- Not sure how that related to my innocence, but nyeh.
I will say it now and if I need to, I'll say it again. Why would you vote against someone if there are other people with far more incriminating aspects upon them? I'm yet to see any examples of me doing "mafia-like" or "serial-killer-like" behaviour, whereas I presented three voting examples of other people doing "mafia-like" activities.
I tried to address all parts of your post JK but well things happen and I feel like I'm going to be lynched anyway so I'll just refer to the end.
I guess I used the wrong word when I said conclusive. I didnt mean my "case" was 100% solid without a doubt, as indicated by the "as", but I meant it has a better backing then your justification, or your partners justification, or whoever's justification. The argument against me is a risk in your words and that it is all based on chance. Whereas my argument against Dess and Old has examples of "mafia-like" activity. Group-voting, vote jumping and lynching eagerness. I guess I just dont understand why my head is on the chopping block when I feel like a "better" case has been made against different people in this game.
Heh, don't try and say, "oh the arguments against Hype are soooo good, I'm voting for him, it has nothing to do with him suspecting me", I mean come on, Its downright obvious this is almost all based upon me figuring out your mafia deeds. If I was in that situation that you are in now, I'd jump at the chance to get rid of you, even if it turned out that I wasn't mafia, just to stay in the game. JK can't create a convincing argument on the case against me because it was his colleague who was suspecting me. Therefore there's no "convincing" argument against me, and really just want me out. If it was ANYONE elses name in that position, you wouldn't have much more hesitant to bandwagon on that vote. Now, I'm just waiting for Old's vote against me.
Btw, if that paragraph seemed aggressive, its not suppose to be (Love you Dessy)
I would really like it if the copycat could answer why they think I'm too innocent, it would be swell to justify myself fully, rather than communicating through a messenger.
First I was referring to Dess and Harm calling it convincing and logical, I didn't say you yourself called it logical.
And yes there is an argument actually, your colleague's case against me which I argued against therefore there is an argument. Just because the opinions of the two people who are arguing is aren't 100% backed up, doesn't mean they aren't arguing. If it is not an argument, it is two people, or one person and a messenger, with conflicting opinions expressing themselves. <--- Not sure how that related to my innocence, but nyeh.
I will say it now and if I need to, I'll say it again. Why would you vote against someone if there are other people with far more incriminating aspects upon them? I'm yet to see any examples of me doing "mafia-like" or "serial-killer-like" behaviour, whereas I presented three voting examples of other people doing "mafia-like" activities.
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