The Doomed Cruise - Game [OVER AND OUT ]
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Wheel any'un go' any otha idears? Ah proposhe we still no lynch fer dah reashunsh Ah've menshuned ah'ready.
Translation: Well anyone got any other ideas? I propose we still no lynch ((it'll help gather info and people will most likely die anyways so it's inevitable. I'd say best 3(if that's how many mafia there are) dead than 4. )) for the reasons I've mentioned already.
Translation: Well anyone got any other ideas? I propose we still no lynch ((it'll help gather info and people will most likely die anyways so it's inevitable. I'd say best 3(if that's how many mafia there are) dead than 4. )) for the reasons I've mentioned already.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Could all of you stop voting No Lynch? (>.<)
Please, please explain to me how this helps us. All I've heard is:
1. We could lynch a towny ohno!
Well I'm sorry but any day any time there is a big risk of lynching a towny. We just aswell could No lynch every day so that way we will never have taken part in killing a towny! GENIUS!
It's a game about risks and you should be willing to take them.
2. But we have more information/leads tomorrow.
No, we don't. Please tell me what are you expecting? Are you expecting GmK to tell us who one of the mafia is? because that is surely NOT what is gonna happen. But what will happen: Probabily 3 or 4 people will die.
And as far as I know, that gives no info at all. So yes 4 people die. And we are back to how it was on day one. With no info other than that it can't be any of those dead people!
So who do I propose to vote? I am going to vote for the next person who dares to vote No Lynch.
Because I'm not sure wether you have heard this but: "A No Lynch always helps the mafia."
There is practically no help to it for the town. Atleast not in this situation.
Please, please explain to me how this helps us. All I've heard is:
1. We could lynch a towny ohno!
Well I'm sorry but any day any time there is a big risk of lynching a towny. We just aswell could No lynch every day so that way we will never have taken part in killing a towny! GENIUS!
It's a game about risks and you should be willing to take them.
2. But we have more information/leads tomorrow.
No, we don't. Please tell me what are you expecting? Are you expecting GmK to tell us who one of the mafia is? because that is surely NOT what is gonna happen. But what will happen: Probabily 3 or 4 people will die.
And as far as I know, that gives no info at all. So yes 4 people die. And we are back to how it was on day one. With no info other than that it can't be any of those dead people!
So who do I propose to vote? I am going to vote for the next person who dares to vote No Lynch.
Because I'm not sure wether you have heard this but: "A No Lynch always helps the mafia."
There is practically no help to it for the town. Atleast not in this situation.
The only suspicious people now are people that want to lynch: Notty, Sploorky and Endersteve.
No lynches don't help the mafia as much as a townie lynch, or worse, there is a chance that we lynch a very important town role right from the start. A night gives all cops/roleblockers/etc.. a chance to at least to do some investigation. Notty, you said 3-4 people will die, if we can just make an agreement with all town killers to not murder anyone yet then there will probably be max 2 kills (SK and mafia). 2 (or maybe 3) kills per night still gives important town roles a lot of time to do their jobs, there is no need to "randomly" lynch someone out.
No lynches don't help the mafia as much as a townie lynch, or worse, there is a chance that we lynch a very important town role right from the start. A night gives all cops/roleblockers/etc.. a chance to at least to do some investigation. Notty, you said 3-4 people will die, if we can just make an agreement with all town killers to not murder anyone yet then there will probably be max 2 kills (SK and mafia). 2 (or maybe 3) kills per night still gives important town roles a lot of time to do their jobs, there is no need to "randomly" lynch someone out.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Yes, there is also a chance that this very important person will die during the night. You basicly give the Night killing roles a free night to kill whoever they want. Sure, the cop and roleblocker can do stuff. But we won't know anything about that and I'm sure they won't tell us on day 1 either. Which brings me to the next quote:
Well we will have to randomly lynch out someone on day 1. As wil STILL don't have any information regarding the mafia. So we will be in the exact situation but 2/3/4 people are dead and the cop knows something. I'd rather take my chances with lynching someone instead of waiting to be in the exact same situation tomorrow.
Yes, probabily. Which is why I proposed to lynch the next person who dares to vote a No Lynch. Currently only 1 person is needed to make a No Lynch, but that person will be verys supicious in my eye and I'd probabily vote for him the next day.
Helen wakes up after a nice nap, and curiously observing that time seems to be inconsistent.
Wow, not used to having to read a couple pages of Mafia after waking up. Awesome!
Guys, what I've observed about Defiant is that he changes his playstyle every game. That makes it impossible to track his behavior.
I'm on the same "boat" as Notty. I think someone should be thrown overboard.
Wow, not used to having to read a couple pages of Mafia after waking up. Awesome!
Guys, what I've observed about Defiant is that he changes his playstyle every game. That makes it impossible to track his behavior.
I'm on the same "boat" as Notty. I think someone should be thrown overboard.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
Notty is right, no lynching means tonight there could be 3 kills, some of which can be good (vigi or serial killer if any target a mafia) and one is going to bad (unless mafia target serial killer, which is kinda good but also kinda bad). Then again, lynching could make it 4 bad kills in total which is never good... That's why I'm still not voting, but not abstaining.
Sploorky
Member
Vatumok keep in close mind I've always pushed not rushing no lynches when I'm town, be it from forum or irc mafia. It's simply in my playstyle. That's really not a good 'clear', but I agree with notty when he says "We're not going to be better off tomorrow". The longer the day is drawn out, the better off we are. If we all rush no lynch, we have nothing to go off of. If we no lynch later...maybe that is worth something.
Who/what I find suspicious: nitasu for pretty much admitting he is following the no lynch vote for no reason besides "others are doing it."
Nottykitten just a bit because of this:
I will not be voting anyone yet.
Who/what I find suspicious: nitasu for pretty much admitting he is following the no lynch vote for no reason besides "others are doing it."
Nottykitten just a bit because of this:
I have not ruled out jivvi or defiant, but I think the flak on them is a bit much. Jivvi simply asked questions, maybe a little early, but questions nonetheless, and got jumped on. Defiant is a touch cookie to figure out, so I can not call him "suspicious" because he may be helpful. Keep a watch out for him.
I will not be voting anyone yet.
Defiant_Blob
(￣^￣)ゞ
VRISKA: I'm glad you all are seeing things my way. :::: )
VRISKA: However, it's clear that not all Mafia are going to take the 88.
VRISKA: While some of the more inactive and passive Mafia will 8e residing in the scaredy-cats
VRISKA: I 8elieve that the most active and aggressive of the Mafia will 8e among those who are wanting to lynch someone!
VRISKA: They're pro8a8ly lying in w8 for someone to slip up and say something amiss
VRISKA: Where they'll take the chance and tunnel right through them!!!!!!!!
VRISKA: So the question lies in whether or not we can trust whoever attacks the other.
VRISKA: I'll use my skills to weed out the killers, so don't worry though! 8888 )
VRISKA: However, it's clear that not all Mafia are going to take the 88.
VRISKA: While some of the more inactive and passive Mafia will 8e residing in the scaredy-cats
VRISKA: I 8elieve that the most active and aggressive of the Mafia will 8e among those who are wanting to lynch someone!
VRISKA: They're pro8a8ly lying in w8 for someone to slip up and say something amiss
VRISKA: Where they'll take the chance and tunnel right through them!!!!!!!!
VRISKA: So the question lies in whether or not we can trust whoever attacks the other.
VRISKA: I'll use my skills to weed out the killers, so don't worry though! 8888 )
Earlier in the story:
(OOC:)See Nottykitten I voted already earlier. Keep In Mind I am NOT Changing my current vote (which is nothing since I unvoted) so Don't hold this against me, just showing ya I wasn't lying and to clear some confusion.
(OOC:)See Nottykitten I voted already earlier. Keep In Mind I am NOT Changing my current vote (which is nothing since I unvoted) so Don't hold this against me, just showing ya I wasn't lying and to clear some confusion.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
The reason I strongly support a lynch is because a lynch has a chance to benefit us, no matter how small. If we do a no-lynch, we'll just waste an opportunity to take down one of the bad guys and we're in this exact same situation again the next day. So there's nothing for us to gain from a no-lynch.
I also don't want us to lynch anyone randomly though. That is why I ask everyone to speak their mind. So far it has kind of worked too, I kinda have a couple of hunches, but I'd read through the posts once more and develop my ideas before I post them.
GmK
International Man Of Cake
///VOTECOUNT///
Players needed to lynch: 16
Players needed to no-lynch: 15
No Lynch - 13 - digitalmez, shinyshark, grimmjowforever, K1ngHoward, Vatumok, infernofox, mariosatr, ansoro, kraby1, MrasKid, Prizyms, balloon98, HypeBurst, (NL-2)
Players not voting: Alpha102, myusername22, nottykitten, Sploorky, Dessern5, endersteve5, Ooglie, storm, 77_is_the_best, hihihilolHI, Jivvi, Old_Man_Oak_63, Omar_Sales, One One Two, Defiant_Blob, cooliorules, nitasu987
( nitasu987 - Last reminder to use the correct voting format, from now on I will not count your votes if not done correctly)
Players needed to lynch: 16
Players needed to no-lynch: 15
No Lynch - 13 - digitalmez, shinyshark, grimmjowforever, K1ngHoward, Vatumok, infernofox, mariosatr, ansoro, kraby1, MrasKid, Prizyms, balloon98, HypeBurst, (NL-2)
Players not voting: Alpha102, myusername22, nottykitten, Sploorky, Dessern5, endersteve5, Ooglie, storm, 77_is_the_best, hihihilolHI, Jivvi, Old_Man_Oak_63, Omar_Sales, One One Two, Defiant_Blob, cooliorules, nitasu987
( nitasu987 - Last reminder to use the correct voting format, from now on I will not count your votes if not done correctly)
Fine, I'll take my chance on voting you out then.
Reason: You seem very focused on lynching someone. Some time ago you said that the best shot in the dark was Jivvi because of reasons other have stated (bandwagoning), I didn't found him suspicious at all. You had no other suspicious at all but we still have to lynch someone. I assume that you didn't want to initiate a lynch on someone as that could be suspicious (therefore you could still say you found Jivvi suspicious).
vote endersteve5
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Take good hard look at my post there and then my next post as well. I made it clear that Jivvi wasn't acting very suspicious to me, he was simply the most suspicious to me at the time, which was why I put him down as my shot-in-the-dark. I acknowledged the possibility and the probability of Jivvi not being scum after all, and now that other, more suspicious fellas in my eyes have turned up, I wouldn't list him as the shot-in-the-dark either.
As for me being focused on lynching someone out, I just think the possibility of us taking down a scum on Day 0 outweighs the risk of lynching a townie. More clearly: the possible benefits outweigh the risks. From what I've heard and seen, a no-lynch is almost never good for the town. I'm just doing what I think is the right thing to do.
Now, you mentioned that I don't want to lead a lynch so I wouldn't look suspicious. As I already stated, I have a couple of hunches right now, but I simply would like a bit more time to flesh out my suspicions.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
Some sort of argument is breaking out somewhere... More of a discussion though, not really shouting, I really think that going over there whilst I'm drunk isn't the best scenario. I'll listen through the walls for now and note down things in my notebook. I'm pretty sure I can make out the voice of Samuel Ender or something talking to... I don't know. Samuel's the one being accused by the other person... I really shouldn't be doing this when I'm drunk!
I don't think Ender's bad myself and I don't think Vatu is bad too, I'm specifically waiting to hear from one more person before becoming more suspicious of mystery man/woman.
I don't think Ender's bad myself and I don't think Vatu is bad too, I'm specifically waiting to hear from one more person before becoming more suspicious of mystery man/woman.
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