MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

[Ansoro2112]

And now that I mentioned 77_is_the_best, I'll like to hear from you you reason of why you voted Road, Because I don't really see any reason at all rather than just saying "Has been my main suspicious for a while now". I want to know why you found Road suspicious.

I'm going to go ahead and vote for Road, who has been my main suspicion for a while now. It should also be noted IF road turns out to be mafia, that Ansoro is trying to lead people back to Hunter and seems to be defending road.

vote The Road To Ruin

77_is_the_best. Please don't ignore it. I want to hear from you. =)

 

[Mooglie]

To be honest, hunter did seem suspicious to me before road voted for him. Now I regret suspecting road and not voting hunter.

However unlike hunter I've never seen any reason whatsoever to vote Jivvi. Never had any feelings on him whatsoever . No evidence against him from what I've seen at all. No unjustified actions either.


I Dont see any reason whatsoever to lynch

Excuse me? Let's look back at Page 27 when the whole Road and Ansoro voting Hunter thing happens (bold things are the important parts):

Vote Hunter


I don't really see much evidence with the cover up last night, but as I previously mentioned I found Ltins lynch to be a big bandwagon and I see hunter as a vanguard of it.

This is the 9th post on the page (check it if you wanttt) and now let us look at the 15th post...

Hmmm I'll go back through hunters actions Later but I haven't found him as suspicious all that much except for the fact it felt he could have been more active

Appears you're saying one thing now but another earlier. Like I said, I've been suspicious of you since Day 0 and I did say in one of the question-answering posts that I wouldn't let go of my hunch on you and then minorly on Jivvi (and the Pim thing was wrong because I read the wrong name in a post). Since my gut and head led me to vote Hunter yesterday and it was right, I have to follow them here too:

vote myusername22

 

[myusername22]

To be honest, hunter did seem suspicious to me before road voted for him. Now I regret suspecting road and not voting hunter.

However unlike hunter I've never seen any reason whatsoever to vote Jivvi. Never had any feelings on him whatsoever . No evidence against him from what I've seen at all. No unjustified actions either.


I Dont see any reason whatsoever to lynch

Excuse me? Let's look back at Page 27 when the whole Road and Ansoro voting Hunter thing happens (bold things are the important parts):

Vote Hunter


I don't really see much evidence with the cover up last night, but as I previously mentioned I found Ltins lynch to be a big bandwagon and I see hunter as a vanguard of it.

This is the 9th post on the page (check it if you wanttt) and now let us look at the 15th post...

Hmmm I'll go back through hunters actions Later but I haven't found him as suspicious all that much except for the fact it felt he could have been more active

Appears you're saying one thing now but another earlier. Like I said, I've been suspicious of you since Day 0 and I did say in one of the question-answering posts that I wouldn't let go of my hunch on you and then minorly on Jivvi (and the Pim thing was wrong because I read the wrong name in a post). Since my gut and head led me to vote Hunter yesterday and it was right, I have to follow them here too:

vote myusername22

I suppose I really should choose my words more carefully. I didn't want to come out saying yes hunter is really suspicious while also saying "yes we should lynch road" those things didn't really fit well together so the first time I down played my real feelings about hunter. I should have just been completely honest from the start about my feelings but That tactic Isn't always the most convincing Especially when you're trying to get someone lynched.

now that I see road was innocent, Obviously I realize i was wrong on everything and feel bad about the entire situation.

 

[Ansoro2112]

please do not assume all Hunter voters are innocent and road voters are guilty. In fact, I find it more likely the opposite since, as soon as it was apparent Hunter was gonna get bandwagoned it would be dumb to throw yourself onto the road train leaving you suspicious the next day.

I actually agree with this. I'm sure there are more mafia members who voted for Hunter rather than for Road.

I honestly don't find Myusername suspicious as for right now.

Also, infernofox. Who did you replaced? Enderseteve? And I know there's a lot to read! But once you catch up I would like to hear from you.

storm886 and xXxFruitNinjaxXx, I also want to hear from both of you.

(I'm tagging a lot of people because I just want to hear from some of the ones that have been quiet lately).

 

[Vino]

Well i just finished final exams today so i should be able to catch up sooner or later. Anyway im pretty sure i replaced endersteve as well so theres that. Once i re-read this entire thread a few times ill come up with my ideas and such.

 

[storm886]

Well I don't exactly have time at the moment to read through the last 4 pages or so, (been really busy since school is going on break soon.) But I have glanced over a few posts quickly to get an idea of who the suspicions are surrounding. I think myusername was just defending what he thought was best when he was protecting Hunter, so I don't penalize him for that. Jivvi is like that one person on my first season. I forget his name but he was very random and you never knew what to expect from him. So maybe Jivvi since he really is a mystery and could likely be a third party member. But then we come to ansoro... he may be under the suspicion, but I have never seen him defend himself in the game of mafia like what he is doing (as far as length and depth goes.) So for that reason he seems like he could be mafia or third party. Just a gut though I suppose.

vote ansoro2112

 

[Ansoro2112]

but I have never seen him defend himself in the game of mafia like what he is doing (as far as length and depth goes.)

Didn't you see me played Doomed Cruise? I defended myself as hard as I could and did everything I could to vote out Alpha, and I was a simple passenger.

What I'm trying to say is no matter what my role is I will always defend myself in every way I can. Not only Mafia roles or Third Party roles can defend themselves. Town people also can.
So in my opinion voting for me by the reason "Ive never seen him defend himself in the game of mafia" is a bit lame.

 

[Fruit]

please do not assume all Hunter voters are innocent and road voters are guilty. In fact, I find it more likely the opposite since, as soon as it was apparent Hunter was gonna get bandwagoned it would be dumb to throw yourself onto the road train leaving you suspicious the next day.

This basically. Still kind of "iffy" on some things as I haven't been playing from the beginning, so that's why I've been a little quiet as of now, but once I get into it and hopefully survive another day or so, I'll sure to be more active.

 

[Fruit]

Quote messed up there, the bottom bit shouldn't be quoted.

 

[Ansoro2112]

Well I don't exactly have time at the moment to read through the last 4 pages or so, (been really busy since school is going on break soon.) But I have glanced over a few posts quickly to get an idea of who the suspicions are surrounding.

Also, what I see in this part is bothering me. You say you don't really have the time to read through the pages but you did glanced over a few pages to get an idea of who suspicions are surrounding.

Which makes me think, are you just going for the ones who people are suspicous as for right now since is the easiest thing to do since people can bandwagon that easily?

It's important to read very carefuly every post. Not just glanced at them. And I understand school's almost over, so in that case just wait and when you have enough time read it slow and carefully. When you're sure about what you just read you may cast your vote.

We (Town people) can't really afford to lose someone that easily. Mafia Members try to just grab the easy people to vote for. Which is kind of what I'm seeing with you. I see this as a lazy post in my opinion, which worries me a little bit.

And why didn't you mentioned me when you voted for Road? You never said you were worried about me for defending myself. Because it was with all the Road/Hunter/Ansoro thing going on that I was talking way too much, which that was the perfect time to say "Hey, Ansoro is defending himself way too much". But no, you didn't even mentioned my name. Until now. Why is that?

 

[Ansoro2112]

[quote="ansoro2112, post: 264065, member: 2247"
And why didn't you mentioned me when you voted for Hunter? [/quote]

Edit.

 

[Jivvi]

... as if a bandwagon on you is inevitable ...

I thought your vote looked kind of reaction-testy, but once Ansoro also started to place suspicion on me, I started to get worried, because you're one of the most experienced players; some people would follow a vote of yours with no evidence required, while after Ansoro had some more explained thoughts, it seemed like a more likely outcome.

Frankly, I'm still not entirely sure what I should be defending myself against.

Plausible Deniability? You discredit the vote on you by saying that is has no basis. That would be fine if there wasn't a basis. But there very well is, and it's imho more scummy to try and discredit a voter than to try and work with what they stated.

Not quite sure how I discredited stuff, but I was pointing out that Priz's vote wasn't exactly a verbal assault, and that Ansoro could easily move in under the shadow of the more experienced player (and once people take that advice, it seems to be forgotten that the initial vote had no grounds, a bit like Road (although he turned out to be correct)). Also, plausible deniability is, firstly, the sort of answer I was chasing to my quoted question, and secondly, once again we are seeing instances of only selected examples of suspicious actions being taken into consideration. There was a great deal of plausible deniability yesterday, but I don't think I saw you bring it up much at all.

One of the reasons that I haven't been massively outspoken is my suspicions, due to most of them being able to turn a lynch on me in an instant. But something I'm wondering about now, is that while I'm not totally suspicious of any of them, if Priz, GmK and Ansoro were among the mafia, some of their past actions might seem coordinated as a unit. My main suspicions at the moment, however, are of Myuser.

 

[Jivvi]

Also, can I just say, GmK, just because I haven't managed to pick up any slips, etc, doesn't mean I'm not town.
:c

 

[myusername22]

Also, can I just say, GmK, just because I haven't managed to pick up any slips, etc, doesn't mean I'm not town.
:c

For a moment I read that as you were accusing gmk xD

(Sorry If this isn't "productive" the truth of the matter is I still don't know who or what to believe. I'm trying to accurately find a mafia (we saw how my last attempt went>< ) and I'm just not even sure what to make heads or tails of anymore.

 

[cooliorules]

LAST POST UNTIL 23RD OF DECEMBER
So, I've just read the last few posts. I'm honestly not swayed by anyone, at current. I don't believe that any evidence that is solid enough has been brought up yet.
If I come back to see that I'm being called out for inactivity, I will have a spaz. Please, don't do it.

 

[GmK]

LAST POST UNTIL 23RD OF DECEMBER
So, I've just read the last few posts. I'm honestly not swayed by anyone, at current. I don't believe that any evidence that is solid enough has been brought up yet.
If I come back to see that I'm being called out for inactivity, I will have a spaz. Please, don't do it.

You always do this, I've so far never have seen you have a real opinion on something. Almost every post you make is a "I am thinking about something and will post later, maybe". And when you post, it's a "I can't make a decision just yet", followed by a "let me post later with all I think"...and so on.

Guuuuurl


myusername22

The last posts you have really gotten into a strong "Poor me towny, I can't really make out anything anymore, it's so confusing" stance. Not sure yet what to make of it, but it doesn't seem particularly reassuring...

 

[GmK]

Ah you know what

vote myusername22

I think your "I am town but I can't prove it and I will probably be lynched anyhow" is a big charade similar to the defensive mechanisms that hunter deployed.

There, let's get some more action in here.

MarsKid - a votecount maybe, darling?

 

[Jeercrul]

Ah crap. I need to catch up with these pages. Will reply as soon as I finish catching up and thinking things over.

 

[Prizyms]

You know what guys

All power roles claim as PR. Do not claim your role, just say that you are a PR. We lynch in blues today, wait overnight, then see if any were roleblocked. Then, massclaim and get the scum from roleblock CCs.

 

[Nottykitten]

This copied from my role list:

Spoiler: roles

Town:
1 Doctor(cant protect self or same person twice in a row)
1 Vig(alternate nights)
1 Daycop
1 Roleblocker
1 Bodyguard
1 One-shot double voter
1 Tracker
14 Villager (some died)

Mafia:
1 Godfather
1 Roleblocker(cannot roleblock same person twice in a row)
1 One-shot Janitor(won't know role of janitor'd person either)
1 Bulletproof Mafiosi
2 Mafiosi

Third party:
1 Serial killer
1 Lyncher-killer(predicts who gets lynched in day. If right gains one-shot kill ablity for the night)
1 sleeper-copycat(chooses one person at the start of the game,. Copies that role and alignment of that person if that person dies)

I think this is a good idea, but the power roles have to agree too. As they will be at risk. So this isn't my decision.

 

[Prizyms]

And before you say 'THIS IS A BAD IDEA! IT'S JUST A LIST FOR MAFIA TO KILL!' this is why we hardclaim tomorrow and lynch in CCs.

 

[Nottykitten]

Since the doc is still alive, I think the cop should claim today. Since when all PR's claim, there is a chance that the cop dies tonight. It's better to do it now before it is to late. Opinions?

 

[MarsKid]

VOTECOUNT!!!
-Jivvi = 1(Prizyms) (L-11)
-GmK = 1(Nottykitten) (L-11)
-HypeBurst = 1(myusername22) (L-11)
-myusername22 = 2(Ooglie101, GmK) (L-10)
-ansoro2112 = 1(storm886) (L-11)

With 23 players left, takes 12 to lynch.

GmK if you could change the thread title to Day 3, that'd be great c:

 

[GmK]

Since the doc is still alive, I think the cop should claim today. Since when all PR's claim, there is a chance that the cop dies tonight. It's better to do it now before it is to late. Opinions?

?

If we only claim to be PR, how would that out the cop? As in: The mafia will pick one of those people, and it might have been the cop?

 

[GmK]

And, you forget the SK, who will also have a blanket list of PRs he can kill off. So if we do this, we probably lose at least one PR.