Supernatural Hotel [Finished]
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Ansoro2112
Hottie
I always play way too hard. That's just how I like to play.
And I understand your argument about Mmarz. Of course you can say I'm mafia and that way I knew Mmarz was indeed innocent. I've said this many many times. I just got it right. Not because I'm mafia but because I believed in him. His plan seemed true to me.
I've explain it many times. I don't really think is enough to convince you but I already said everything I had to say.
But you can't be more wrong, Notty. <3
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Oh I'm right about this one <3
And I don't mean you play too hard, I mean it seems like you are trying too hard to play exactly the way you played last game. Because last game you played like a townsperson because you were town, and this game you are mafia and try to play exactly like last game
Ansoro2112
Hottie
No you're not. You really got it way too wrong. Like really. I'm not even worried about it. I'm not getting lynched. Trust me.Oh I'm right about this one <3
And I don't mean you play too hard, I mean it seems like you are trying too hard to play exactly the way you played last game. Because last game you played like a townsperson because you were town, and this game you are mafia and try to play exactly like last game
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
So, we're back to ansoro, as I see.
Sure, I'm cool with it, since I considered him a top suspicion the previous day as well. Let's go over what we've seen from ansoro so far that has raised his level of suspicion.
For the first ten pages or so, we only got a couple of posts from him. Then, on page 10, there's the post that immediately brought him in the middle of attention. Yes, I'm talking about the post that said that the confirmed innocents may not be who they seem, that the cop should out and that notty didn't seem all that suspicious. While I can now (not back then, but now, more on this later) believe the last point, the other two still come off as nonsense. Back then we didn't have any idea that Mmarz could be a Guest, so why believe that one of the claims could not be what they seem? If Anso was mafia and another mafia claimed Guest, he could very easily know that one of the Guest claims wasn't who they said they were and just mention it, not enough to throw actual suspicion on the four, but enough to be able to say later "I told you so" (which, as a matter of fact, he did.).
The cop outing himself was also a pretty damn bad idea. It seems highly unlikely that the mafia would get two cops in the first two nights. Yet, anso was concerned about it happening. Why? There is no explanation for it if he was town. If he was, say, mafia, that would certainly turn some things upside down. If he was the Stalker, he could've investigated myuser in the night before and therefore would've known he was the cop. That is the only explanation, really, to be concerned about the cop. Anso probably knew the cop wasn't gonna out and used this to his advantage. When he asked the cop to out, he once again gave himself a marvellous opportunity to say "I told you so" afterwards.
And if you say you were right all along and everybody should've followed you, no matter how crazy your ideas were, because you were absolutely right about everything and therefore, obviously town, then you may not fool the more experienced players, but you could persuade the less experienced ones who are generally easier to persuade into trusting you. And that could prove to be a very valuable thing for a mafia member.
Next thing we know, anso is getting pissy about Jeercul voting him over perfectly valid reasons and repeats the same thing he said before, while not actually countering any of Jeercul's arguments. After that, he brings up "That's my playstyle" as proof of him being innocent and he repeats that same thing later as well.
It may or may not be your playstyle, but that doesn't change the fact that you're making practically no sense at all in a large number of your posts. That's not how I remember your playstyle, but I do get the feeling you're trying, trying hard to maintain your playstyle from the previous games, in order to be able to bring it up as a defense when all else fails.
Ok, moving on. Page 12, we see you responding to Mmarz's post. Not even a hint of suspicion of Mmarz. You didn't think for even a second that he could've been scum himself, which would only have been a logical train of thought. How could you have been so sure that he was who he said he was, right after he just admitted to lying right in our faces? See above for explanation. You already knew that one of the Guest claims wasn't who they said they were, so it would only be logical that the guy who says they lied and are actually Guest, is actually telling the truth. You never considered, just even for once, that Mmarz may be scum, and while he did turn out to be inno in the end, he was looking pretty darn suspicious at the time. I don't think I have to explain what you'd get from that "I told you so" that you would get after Mmarz turns up as innocent, which you already knew he would.
Day 2. Cops are gone. You take the chance for that "I told you so". Suddenly, Fruit votes for you. Ok, nothing bad to say about that, considering the stuff that was going on on Day 1 and his own explanation. Your response though, once again, doesn't actually counter anything. Instead, you go and say that you were right in the previous games, so obviously you can get things right and therefore, must be absolutely correct in your infinite wisdom.
Nope. Previous games are just that. Previous. The fact that you were town in the previous games and got some things right doesn't mean anything, because this is a new game and you could be anyone. It is, once again, a logical fallacy meant to convince those who aren't so good at analyzing other people. For some reason, you can't come up with actual reasons and dig yourself out from the pit you're sinking into, so you throw in something like that in hopes of it convincing the less experienced.
We see you saying that Fruit's reasoning for voting you doesn't make any sense at all and that it's not even a good reason to vote someone. Yet you bring no explanation about how it's so bad. That's because you know it's actually a good argument and you just can't put anything against that. So, because you know that he's right but don't want to admit it, since it would mean certain lynching for you, you just say it's not a good reason, with no actual reasoning to support that claim. Right after that you say that fiesta is suspicious, something that some agree on, my guess is you were trying to divert suspicion off yourself because you really didn't like where this was going. Perhaps you thought "Oh, well Fruit's right. Let's divert suspicion off myself so maybe they'll forget it and I'm safe again" or something similar to this.
Then you settle down for a short while, because everyone's busy with fiesta. Aaand then you come back and seem to try and prove your towniness even further with something about GmK trying to get the SWAT to claim. It seems pretty obvious to me that GmK was pretty much just joking, but you go and turn this into something that wants the SWAT to out, so that the mafia could kill him. Tell me, isn't this exactly what you did the previous day with the cop? And if you did it, why is it so bad? GmK didn't even want the SWAT to out, but you go and say he did and deem this a bad thing, while the day before it was completely acceptable. Aaand then you say he's pushing for the SWAT to out and without any further explanation, you drop your vote in.
If we would add every other bit that has been brought up against you, then I don't think I need to explain myself further.
Now, remember how I said something about notty perhaps being innocent way back in the start? Don't worry, I'm not gonna just leave it to that, but time has flown quickly and I have to leave for a small bit, and since I don't want to lose this megapost, I'm gonna discuss notty in my next post.
But for now
vote Ansoro2112
Sure, I'm cool with it, since I considered him a top suspicion the previous day as well. Let's go over what we've seen from ansoro so far that has raised his level of suspicion.
For the first ten pages or so, we only got a couple of posts from him. Then, on page 10, there's the post that immediately brought him in the middle of attention. Yes, I'm talking about the post that said that the confirmed innocents may not be who they seem, that the cop should out and that notty didn't seem all that suspicious. While I can now (not back then, but now, more on this later) believe the last point, the other two still come off as nonsense. Back then we didn't have any idea that Mmarz could be a Guest, so why believe that one of the claims could not be what they seem? If Anso was mafia and another mafia claimed Guest, he could very easily know that one of the Guest claims wasn't who they said they were and just mention it, not enough to throw actual suspicion on the four, but enough to be able to say later "I told you so" (which, as a matter of fact, he did.).
The cop outing himself was also a pretty damn bad idea. It seems highly unlikely that the mafia would get two cops in the first two nights. Yet, anso was concerned about it happening. Why? There is no explanation for it if he was town. If he was, say, mafia, that would certainly turn some things upside down. If he was the Stalker, he could've investigated myuser in the night before and therefore would've known he was the cop. That is the only explanation, really, to be concerned about the cop. Anso probably knew the cop wasn't gonna out and used this to his advantage. When he asked the cop to out, he once again gave himself a marvellous opportunity to say "I told you so" afterwards.
And if you say you were right all along and everybody should've followed you, no matter how crazy your ideas were, because you were absolutely right about everything and therefore, obviously town, then you may not fool the more experienced players, but you could persuade the less experienced ones who are generally easier to persuade into trusting you. And that could prove to be a very valuable thing for a mafia member.
Next thing we know, anso is getting pissy about Jeercul voting him over perfectly valid reasons and repeats the same thing he said before, while not actually countering any of Jeercul's arguments. After that, he brings up "That's my playstyle" as proof of him being innocent and he repeats that same thing later as well.
It may or may not be your playstyle, but that doesn't change the fact that you're making practically no sense at all in a large number of your posts. That's not how I remember your playstyle, but I do get the feeling you're trying, trying hard to maintain your playstyle from the previous games, in order to be able to bring it up as a defense when all else fails.
Ok, moving on. Page 12, we see you responding to Mmarz's post. Not even a hint of suspicion of Mmarz. You didn't think for even a second that he could've been scum himself, which would only have been a logical train of thought. How could you have been so sure that he was who he said he was, right after he just admitted to lying right in our faces? See above for explanation. You already knew that one of the Guest claims wasn't who they said they were, so it would only be logical that the guy who says they lied and are actually Guest, is actually telling the truth. You never considered, just even for once, that Mmarz may be scum, and while he did turn out to be inno in the end, he was looking pretty darn suspicious at the time. I don't think I have to explain what you'd get from that "I told you so" that you would get after Mmarz turns up as innocent, which you already knew he would.
Day 2. Cops are gone. You take the chance for that "I told you so". Suddenly, Fruit votes for you. Ok, nothing bad to say about that, considering the stuff that was going on on Day 1 and his own explanation. Your response though, once again, doesn't actually counter anything. Instead, you go and say that you were right in the previous games, so obviously you can get things right and therefore, must be absolutely correct in your infinite wisdom.
Nope. Previous games are just that. Previous. The fact that you were town in the previous games and got some things right doesn't mean anything, because this is a new game and you could be anyone. It is, once again, a logical fallacy meant to convince those who aren't so good at analyzing other people. For some reason, you can't come up with actual reasons and dig yourself out from the pit you're sinking into, so you throw in something like that in hopes of it convincing the less experienced.
We see you saying that Fruit's reasoning for voting you doesn't make any sense at all and that it's not even a good reason to vote someone. Yet you bring no explanation about how it's so bad. That's because you know it's actually a good argument and you just can't put anything against that. So, because you know that he's right but don't want to admit it, since it would mean certain lynching for you, you just say it's not a good reason, with no actual reasoning to support that claim. Right after that you say that fiesta is suspicious, something that some agree on, my guess is you were trying to divert suspicion off yourself because you really didn't like where this was going. Perhaps you thought "Oh, well Fruit's right. Let's divert suspicion off myself so maybe they'll forget it and I'm safe again" or something similar to this.
Then you settle down for a short while, because everyone's busy with fiesta. Aaand then you come back and seem to try and prove your towniness even further with something about GmK trying to get the SWAT to claim. It seems pretty obvious to me that GmK was pretty much just joking, but you go and turn this into something that wants the SWAT to out, so that the mafia could kill him. Tell me, isn't this exactly what you did the previous day with the cop? And if you did it, why is it so bad? GmK didn't even want the SWAT to out, but you go and say he did and deem this a bad thing, while the day before it was completely acceptable. Aaand then you say he's pushing for the SWAT to out and without any further explanation, you drop your vote in.
If we would add every other bit that has been brought up against you, then I don't think I need to explain myself further.
Now, remember how I said something about notty perhaps being innocent way back in the start? Don't worry, I'm not gonna just leave it to that, but time has flown quickly and I have to leave for a small bit, and since I don't want to lose this megapost, I'm gonna discuss notty in my next post.
But for now
vote Ansoro2112
Also, since I'm still mulling over Fiesta's strange series of posts, it occurred to me that the mafia that placed themselves in the group of 4 is almost definitely the terrorist. EIther that or the terrorist is Fiesta. I dunno, something was completely off about the self-vote post.
As for Ansoro, I coulnd't agree more with Notty. Every time somebody questions your drastic change in playstyle, not so much through actual change as to how you exexute it, you instantly jump to the "This is my playstyle, I always play like this, OMGUS" excuse.
As for Ansoro, I coulnd't agree more with Notty. Every time somebody questions your drastic change in playstyle, not so much through actual change as to how you exexute it, you instantly jump to the "This is my playstyle, I always play like this, OMGUS" excuse.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Oh two can play that game.
I'm the Floor 7 Director.
To prove this I am going to tag @Jivvi @Ooglie101 and @endersteve5
See, your claim is a total nonsense.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
OKAY I MIGHT HAVE LIED SINCE YOU SEEM SO MAFIA AND I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT. But still, this does not prove you. Not yet anyways.
Let's play another game called "I am not the Floor 7 Director".
How it works is simple. Everyone states wether they are the floor 7 director or not. If we get no CC's this means ansoro is proven innocent [See, we are doing this again!]. If we do get a CC then oooshit.
I'll start by saying I am not the Floor 7 Director. Oh also the reason we have to play this is game is because if one of the people inside the room is mafia he could of told his mafia buddies that GmK, Jivvi and Hype are in there. Therefor we need to know if someone else is the actual Director.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
In case people are wondering:
Hype, Coolio, Ooglie and Ltin do not have to claim since they are either guest or mafia.
So people who are not the Floor 7 Director(7):
Notty
Sploorky
GmK
HypeBurst
Cooliorules
Ooglie101
Ltin
People who claim Floor 7 Director(1):
Ansoro2112
People who haven't claimed(9):
Raxo2222
77_is_the_best
Jivvi
Unbeliever
Endersteve5
xXxFruitninjaxXx
Digitalmez
Jeercrul
Fiestaguy
Hype, Coolio, Ooglie and Ltin do not have to claim since they are either guest or mafia.
So people who are not the Floor 7 Director(7):
Notty
Sploorky
GmK
HypeBurst
Cooliorules
Ooglie101
Ltin
People who claim Floor 7 Director(1):
Ansoro2112
People who haven't claimed(9):
Raxo2222
77_is_the_best
Jivvi
Unbeliever
Endersteve5
xXxFruitninjaxXx
Digitalmez
Jeercrul
Fiestaguy
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Well nobody could have expected this, only Ansoro.
And in case you are speaking the truth, sorry for voting you but as you can read in Ender's post you are pretty suspicious x).
And ofcourse also you are the director and not only did you let the mafia in you let a terrorist in as well under your watch. People are dying and you are not doing your job very well sir!
And in case you are speaking the truth, sorry for voting you but as you can read in Ender's post you are pretty suspicious x).
And ofcourse also you are the director and not only did you let the mafia in you let a terrorist in as well under your watch. People are dying and you are not doing your job very well sir!
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