TBD [Status: GAME OVER]
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The who? o. o
It's not that simple, my friend.
You aren't including the delivery of said claim, who delivered said claim, and the reaction to said claim. All of these are important in determining how believable it is or not.
And to be quite frank, Hunter's claim was not believable.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Sigh how many times do I have to repeat myself. B. Because i'mtryingtolynchmafianotthirdparty.
Also you're ignoring all scummy things Hunter did because he claimed town. Well anyone can claim town.
Both. Because I don't want to lynch a Third Party since this is no way helps the town except for the fact that it doesn't help the town. And I do want to lynch Hunter since he's being so obviously scummy.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
If you don't believe Hunters claim then why are you not lynching him?
Someone that fake-claims town is most likely 20x more dangerous than someone that fake-claims Third Party.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Aren't you thereby saying that by believing hunters claim, and Alpha's claim is as untrustworthy, Alpha's claim is as believable as Hunters and since you believe Hunters claim you Believe Alpha's claim. In which case you're still trying to lynch and Third Party.
As for my win condition, it's to be alive when the town wins. As I said practically 100% of the towns in condition. Don't believe me lynch me. And the town win condition is to get rid of all threats to the town. Which as I said before does not include Third Parties such as the Alien.
And I think there is not much point in continuing to argue with a Mafia member. I'm calling it now Mafia team consisting of Hunter, Ender and Coolio. How else can I explain Ender's total trust and following of Hunter.
Let me see what I can muster up in my slightly bittersweet state of drunk and sober.
WARNING: Right now everything in my brain is philosophical and makes a lot of sense. My theories should be taken as seriously as any other sobering drunk’s theory.
Alpha
Let me start with this:
I…HAVE AMNESIA?
At the time this looked like a very minor claim. Which was something I really couldn’t take seriously because I too suffered memory loss, but then gradually started to remember things. (Do not ask what things I’ve remembered because then I’d just be going into PM specifics.) And it looks like that I wasn’t the only one.
Why he felt pushed to a point where he needed to reveal is beyond me?
In my opinion, it didn’t feel that Alpha was being hard pressed or pressured at all to claim. If anything, Alpha was nagged and could have diverted the conversation elsewhere. He’s since realized his mistake and hard claimed Alien, which I can’t bring myself to believe. His claim has got me thinking that he’s more than what he is. I have no doubt that GmK has meddled with our roles and Alien feels like such an underwhelming character to receive in an experimental game.
My theory: Since no one has counter claimed, I’ll go along with Alpha’s story. However, I firmly believe that his role has been tampered with. It’s a very farfetched hunch, but perhaps his probing is a form of recruitment or mentoring. Since the Alien role is considered to be innocuous, its this kind of expectation that could give Alpha two or three days to rally people. Perhaps it’s already started considering Myuser’s early defense of Alpha – then again, it’s a long shot.
I’m willing to keep him for now, but I do not want Alpha around long enough to ‘probe’ people.
Hunter
I’m having a problem with Hunter27a1’s play style. It’s annoying, to put it bluntly. From my personal opinion he’s not making this game enjoyable to be part of and I just want to vote for him, because he’s been hostile and insolent. Most of the players here have the decency to treat one another with respect and deliver their arguments and/or opinions without being offensive. However, I do appreciate his cut-to-the-chase attitude, which has sparked some juicy discussions and has lead us to some people revealing their roles (whether they’re true or not)
On to Hunter’s game style.
His contribution to the game has been outstanding, but his aggression and misleading behaviour makes me distrust him. I also dislike the way he goes about to get information.
For example:
The manipulation of Alpha’s words is slight, but it was done deliberately as a cheap tactic to cause suspicion.
Then there’s this:
I find It's highly hypocritical of you to demand answers when you ask questions, yet you either stall or completely ignore questions that are asked of you.
In all honesty, I don’t find you to be scummy just yet. I think right now you’re someone who revels in shit stirring.
My theory: From the beginning, I believed that perhaps Hunter could be the Lyncher or Executioner with the way he hard tunneled Alpha. Again, it’s a far fetched hunch.
Notty
I don’t think I can handle another one of his/her claims where he/she says that he/she’s a blah-blah and then it changes mid-game. Then when you’re investigated it comes up innocent, when really you’re guilty with 10 immunity items. My FoS is and will always be you, but right now you don’t seem to be at the top of my scum radar.
My theory: Notty is a smart-arse who’s able to hoodwink people with his/her quirks. At times it’s difficult to determine what Notty’s intentions are, because his/her play style is often chaotic. Try not to be deterred by Notty’s silliness, for those traits are what shadow how truly deceitful Notty can be.
I have more to say but I'm off to bed because it's 4 am right now.
WARNING: Right now everything in my brain is philosophical and makes a lot of sense. My theories should be taken as seriously as any other sobering drunk’s theory.
Alpha
Let me start with this:
I…HAVE AMNESIA?
At the time this looked like a very minor claim. Which was something I really couldn’t take seriously because I too suffered memory loss, but then gradually started to remember things. (Do not ask what things I’ve remembered because then I’d just be going into PM specifics.) And it looks like that I wasn’t the only one.
Why he felt pushed to a point where he needed to reveal is beyond me?
In my opinion, it didn’t feel that Alpha was being hard pressed or pressured at all to claim. If anything, Alpha was nagged and could have diverted the conversation elsewhere. He’s since realized his mistake and hard claimed Alien, which I can’t bring myself to believe. His claim has got me thinking that he’s more than what he is. I have no doubt that GmK has meddled with our roles and Alien feels like such an underwhelming character to receive in an experimental game.
My theory: Since no one has counter claimed, I’ll go along with Alpha’s story. However, I firmly believe that his role has been tampered with. It’s a very farfetched hunch, but perhaps his probing is a form of recruitment or mentoring. Since the Alien role is considered to be innocuous, its this kind of expectation that could give Alpha two or three days to rally people. Perhaps it’s already started considering Myuser’s early defense of Alpha – then again, it’s a long shot.
I’m willing to keep him for now, but I do not want Alpha around long enough to ‘probe’ people.
Hunter
I’m having a problem with Hunter27a1’s play style. It’s annoying, to put it bluntly. From my personal opinion he’s not making this game enjoyable to be part of and I just want to vote for him, because he’s been hostile and insolent. Most of the players here have the decency to treat one another with respect and deliver their arguments and/or opinions without being offensive. However, I do appreciate his cut-to-the-chase attitude, which has sparked some juicy discussions and has lead us to some people revealing their roles (whether they’re true or not)
On to Hunter’s game style.
His contribution to the game has been outstanding, but his aggression and misleading behaviour makes me distrust him. I also dislike the way he goes about to get information.
For example:
The manipulation of Alpha’s words is slight, but it was done deliberately as a cheap tactic to cause suspicion.
Then there’s this:
In all honesty, I don’t find you to be scummy just yet. I think right now you’re someone who revels in shit stirring.
My theory: From the beginning, I believed that perhaps Hunter could be the Lyncher or Executioner with the way he hard tunneled Alpha. Again, it’s a far fetched hunch.
Notty
I don’t think I can handle another one of his/her claims where he/she says that he/she’s a blah-blah and then it changes mid-game. Then when you’re investigated it comes up innocent, when really you’re guilty with 10 immunity items. My FoS is and will always be you, but right now you don’t seem to be at the top of my scum radar.
My theory: Notty is a smart-arse who’s able to hoodwink people with his/her quirks. At times it’s difficult to determine what Notty’s intentions are, because his/her play style is often chaotic. Try not to be deterred by Notty’s silliness, for those traits are what shadow how truly deceitful Notty can be.
I have more to say but I'm off to bed because it's 4 am right now.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
At least as untrustworthy. At. Least. As. Not equal. Equal or greater. And no, I don't fully believe Hunter's claim, I simply believe it more than I do with Alpha's claim. How much I believe something or not is not 100% the same as how trustworthy I think it is, by the way, because there is such a thing as a gut feeling and while I know it's an incredibly shit thing to use as an argument, it's not like you're giving me another choice here.
That makes your win condition effectively the same as the town's, which effectively makes you a town member. I don't believe that win condition, since why the hell would GmK pull a trick like that to make a Cop third party in name only? You're either town that doesn't understand it's town (my god, how unlikely that would be) or you're lying about your win condition, which makes it pretty plausible that you're lying about your alignment and your role as well.
I will say it one more time. I don't fully trust Hunter. I'm not following him because I think he makes sense. I'm not following him at all. I'm trying to lynch someone, I don't really care if it's Hunter or Alpha, as I've said plenty of times already, but I do believe that Alpha would be the better option of the two and Alpha has more votes on him than Hunter.
My objective in this game right now is to eliminate all threats to the town. If there is a Lie Detector, which I have to say I find unlikely, feel free to take this sentence under investigation, you will find that I'm telling the truth.
Wait, Endersteve you're partially voting me because I already have a large number of votes? And that you don't care whether it's me or Hunter?
I get that you want something to happen before the deadline, but damn is that telling.
I get that you want something to happen before the deadline, but damn is that telling.
Also I'd like to address the people who thought to vote me because I haven't said much.
Believe me when I say that I have been busy with the 30+ relatives who've visited from certain parts of Australia and New Zealand. Understand that I come from a family that cherishes and loves to spend time with each other. So calm your shit! I will respond to this thread as soon as I possibly can.
Believe me when I say that I have been busy with the 30+ relatives who've visited from certain parts of Australia and New Zealand. Understand that I come from a family that cherishes and loves to spend time with each other. So calm your shit! I will respond to this thread as soon as I possibly can.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Only partially, and I've been telling that since the debacle first started. I still think you're the better choice out of the two, don't make the mistake of thinking that I'm simply bandwagoning for a bandwagon's sake, because I'm not.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Make of it what you want. Pretty sure a number of people will take that as a slip that I'm mafia or whatever, but my previous statement about my objectives in this game right now still stands, no matter what people think.I made sure to include partially in there for that reason
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Lynching a powerful town PR is most likely 20x as dangerous as lynching an Alien.
Lynching a potential powerful town PR is most likely 20x as potentially dangerous as lynching a potential Alien. That is my point. Our points don't actually clash, they only prioritize different risks. If you won't budge, (well, I know you won't, but the rest of you voting Hunter) then we'll just have to agree to disagree on the matter and both hope that the ones inbetween two opinions have more sense in them than the side we're not on.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
If you're implying that I simply want to lynch everyone non-town, then you've completely misunderstood. No, I don't want to lynch everyone that isn't town. What I want is to lynch the person that brings us most potential benefit when lynched. Right now, Alpha is that person. If you want me to explain yet again, why I believe Alpha is that person, then you can ask, but I've made my points quite clear already.
I've got another question to you, Notty. Do you think that I am mafia?
