Русская мафия! [Complete]
- Thread starter Prizyms
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Not much explanation needs to be given if you're just presenting a fairly heavy coincidence. The connection that be drawn has already been spelled out in small words and friendly sentences. Erik's poem theory seems less absurd if you note that Jolt hasn't defending himself at all over the course of the day while people jump on the bandwagon. This is a fairly major contradiction to the don't-lynch-before-they-wake-up courtesy people expected for Notty.
What people have been doing is cherry-picking a point that's been brought up before, presenting the exact same counterargument without considering other possibilities, and ignoring other parts of the post they quoted from.
Everyone's convinced that unflavoured roles cannot exist purely because they have a flavoured one, even all dead players so face have had generic role names. Nobody bothered to question everyone and make a list or anything, everyone just jumped on Jolteon.
I am Maria Skobtsova, the Virgin. My role is almost 1:1 vanilla. When I die, through lynch or night kill, nobody can die the following night. This is only slightly different to the Epicmafia role, which is better suited for the smaller games. This role description is still quite common in large setups, and isn't any kind of Русская мафия-specific role. Maria Skobtsova was a martyr in WWII.
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
I know this is delayed, but I was asleep. I did get a message, but I honestly don't understand it and that makes me scared I'm gonna be targeted by a 3rd party if I announce it.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Jivvi sorry for badgering you about this but since you claim to be almost vanilla, what motivated you to say that Mastersten's vodka thing was harmful? Or at least, saying that it was untrue that it was harmless.
I meant to follow up on that. It wasn't to do with the role itself, but was rather disagreeing with the notion that third parties can be assets to the town. You can't trust that they somehow have cause to out themselves and pledge themselves to the town. Rather, they'll likely be pushing their own agenda, as we've seen a lot of the time when we let third parties live in the past. (With the exception of that one weird role 77 had once where he failed his objective and was rendered inert. At the same time, trusting him was still a risk due to not having confirmation of his role.)
I meant to follow up on that. It wasn't to do with the role itself, but was rather disagreeing with the notion that third parties can be assets to the town. You can't trust that they somehow have cause to out themselves and pledge themselves to the town. Rather, they'll likely be pushing their own agenda, as we've seen a lot of the time when we let third parties live in the past. (With the exception of that one weird role 77 had once where he failed his objective and was rendered inert. At the same time, trusting him was still a risk due to not having confirmation of his role.)
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
W̡̨̛̦͚̫̯h̲̲ḙ̸̡̻̙̜͜ͅń̴̛͕ͅ ̳͎͈̥̜̀͠t̨̩̦̞̣̭͍͙̗̀h̨̧̹͠e̯̭̝͠ ̢̱̫̱͈s̺̞̹̦̹i̧̪̗g̰̜̹̲͖̜̱͢n̺̭̞͕̻͚͞a̴̠͉̬͙͉ͅĺ̬̭̺͎͚̫̪̦ ̖͔̯͚̖ͅi̡̥̙͓̠̙̫̟͡s̶̡̧̻̤͎̻ ̧̟̮͓͔̩̺̱ģ̸̯͓̳̺͈͢i̺̲͟͟v͙e̴̺͎n͞͏̸̻̥̫͇̙̖,̠̙̭̦̰͙ͅ ̪̦̻̻͓̹̲̮y͚͡ǫ̞͉͡u̜̲̹͎ ̧̱̻͕̦̞s̸͉͓̳͘͝ͅh̨͏͕̠̰̦̺͍a̢̧̺l̻̫̱͙͚͕̭̮l̵̠͉̝̙̼̟̠̻ ͓n̷̡͚̻̝̞̹̺͡o̴̥͚̬̪̤͡t̛̜̖̲̻̖̙̺̻̕ ̛͉̖̞̲͝s̠̘͎̦̼̬͜p̨̜̻͉͔̩̫̝͇e̢͙̗̰͈̻̙͟a͏͎͇̯̞̪̗k̨̘͚̭͚̰̠͖̕.̸͙̱̗̰͙
̢̗̗̘̖͔͝W̶͎̜͍̕͜h̛̹͓̝̟͉̲̯̘͚͡͠e̡̖̞̹̹̮̕n̦͖͡ͅ ͎̪̹̝̮͓̖̕͞t̘̮̀́͠h̸̢̺e̠͎̖̣͢ ̡͏̵͙̱̖s̸̴̨̤̱̝̫̞͕̳͇o̸̧̻̞͕͖͍͜ư̠̯̠̭̝̜̕ͅǹ̶͓͖̞͎͍̱͉̩̭d҉̛̖̼͎̻͝ ͍͙̟̘̗͘ͅi͙͖̹͖̖s̬̭̘͢ ̡̗̣̞̜h̷̙̳̘̮͝e̴̛̛͚͉̰á̘̙r̟̗̱̬̱͇͍͙d̯̳̼̭̗̳͍,̴͈̟̤͎͓̞͎ ̴̩̰͇y̙̹̩̕o̥͎̗̗̳̩͙͟u͏̸̝͙̥̟̝ ̺̝͍̼̱͘͠s̶̵͎̬͕h̶͉͉͈̺̠̀͢ͅa̷͖͇̣̯ͅl̸̗̣̩̝l͉͚̬̳͞ ҉̸̝̜̹̙̜͖̣ͅn̳̹̭͈̺̤ͅo̙͚ṯ͢ ̻̭̤̹͘͜͝s̸͔͉̠̼͖̞p͔̯̫̫̞͎̻e̳̥̺ͅa̺̼̞̗̱͠k̨͢҉̤͓̥̟͓͚.̷̨͕͓̖͔̦͓
̺̬̙̹͇W͡͏͍̩̰̪̙̮̯h̸̪͎͍͓̰̮͢e̸̺̲͖̫̼̫͎ṋ͇̩̖̥̮͉̺̳̀ ̺͙͖̞͢t̠͇͍̟̩̬͓͉h̩̩è̴̮̣͓ ̺̯̖͠ͅͅȩ̦͉̟͓͚̦̮a͖͈̻̠͖̦̩͙͘r̵̛̼̯͎̹͖ͅt̸̴͍͓͚͎̳̱ͅh̴̛̺͔ ̹̠̲̕͟b͏҉̡̯̞e̡̯̝͕̹͉̥̝͖͜l͕͕̖̼̼͎̖o̸̡͎̣̼͚͖̱͜w҉̵͔͕͎̰̫͔̥̫ ̱s̸̛͔̟̖͙̳͚h̜̬͚̖̘͜͠a̙̩̘̖͎k̦͇̕e͔̹͠s̸̫̰̞̲̣̜͉͕͞͞,̩̫ ̝͎̣͎̟̟͚̪y͉̟͉̩̙͇̙̤͞͞o̴̳̜̝͙͙̳̥̕u̬̞̰̫ ̸͡͏̭͈̤̱̭̟̞̖ş̖̪̖h̵̴̝̭̞̫a̷̘̘̱̻̟͍̘̺̘͢l͇̺͇̰͘l̗̤͇̺̬̲͖͡ͅ ̗͎̘̼̰̯͉͟n̵̗̲͕̹̼ò͍̲̮̲̜̳̗͚̰́ṭ̷̪̤͜ ̷̯͇̘̳̪̟͚̥s̫̝̻̣͠p͉è̞͙͓̱a̢̮͔̭̳͎͖̟͢͢k̛͚̭̤̯͘.̴̱̣̩͢͢
̺͍̤̖͞
̢͈̼̻̜͝W̛̟̜̩̪̹̻̝͘ͅh̩̹̲̟̀͝é̷̜̠̩̖̭͠n̪̼͡ ͞҉̲̣̱h̫͖̝̼͕̤͈e̞̻̺͝͞ ̗̬̫̭r̴̘̩͚̲͍͢í̶͖̞͎͖̼̩̺͓̪s̰̯̬̯͈é̸̖̲͉̬̻́s͙̱̘̪͚͇͎̟͝,̩͈͍̖͓͉̘̝̕ ̸̤̖̻͓̫̺͓̫ỳ̖͟o̸̵̶͓̯̩̳u͓̮̭̖͢ ̨̛͉͓͡s͍͖͙̫̭̜͔͈͢h̡͎͈̟̟̘̮a̡͙͙͍̪̬̬l͍͍̩l̢͏͕̫̪͚͉ ͎̼͖͚̫̳̼͍͡n̩̱̺̹̣̖o̬͈̲̼t̴̡̲ ̼̦͈ș̳͚́͡p̶̣̗̫͞e̙̟͍͉̺͔ą̸̛͉͇k͚̹̰͖̱͘.̼͇̙̩͙͔͟
̵̷̺͙͓̗͉̘͔̤͚W̶̤̯͇̬͙͘h̫̝̳̞̹̠̫̜͘e͏̻̝̺̳̗̹̺̪̟͠n̜̪ ̪̬͖͍͖͕̯̀͜y̵̷͓̦̭̜̟̼͞o͟҉̲̰̖̝u̡̧͇̼̦̯̻͇͖͓͍ ͙͚̘̱͍̤̳̥͡g̦̭̥̺̜̖͔̺ạ̵̀z̶̭̯e̗̜̬̟͍̩̰͡ ͞͏̦ṳ̸̵͈̯̮͘p̢͈̲̦̬o̸̭͖͕͉͓ń̢̬ͅ ̢̗͚̥̱͎̯̩ͅh̵̦̝̰͚͘į͓̦̗̩͈̮̦ͅm̹̫̝̱̙͙̦̪͡͝,̡͈̮͟ ̴͏̡̖̱̯̦̹y̸̤͕͠ò͕̦̳̖͖̭͡u͙̠͝ ̶̺͇̺̫̳͚̠̮s̴̮̞̼̦̳̕͜h̡̯̗̱̦̠́́a̴̡̭͓̟l̸̲̻̫̥̪̻̦͘l̟͔̞̹̠̳̭ ̢̘̯͈̲̪͞ͅn̶͏̙͎̞̜̙͕̮̦͝ò͙̣̣͎̦̖̭̩̖t͈̬̩̗̹̺̺͕̠́ ̡̮̹͚̺̼͇͘͞s̥̮̪̠̭̜̩̀̕p̴̛͏͈e̛̝̤̦̯̦̹̘ą̵͙͙̲̀k̰̮̥̺͕̪̥̀́.̦̪̟
̸̢̪̝͚͙͉
̶͍͓̹̝̫́Ṣ̶̝͓͇͉͕̱i͞͏͎̮͓̜̻͟ͅl̲̗͕̱͎̺̱͓e͏̵̠͍̹̙n̷͉͕͘͞ć͙̪͖͈̝̝͢ȩ͖̘̭͔̻̥̯̖͉͞ ͙̲͟ì̻̱̹̙͖s̖̖̟̭̙̟͠ ̣͝t̳͚̻̭͡ḫ̶̺̘̬͖̟̟͓͟͟e̛̗͕̟̰̺ ̵͖̗l̛̝͖̜̣̯̦͎a̤͎̩͉̕͜͢ͅn̶̴̯͈͇̲̻̱͟g̴̷͎u̶̙a̵҉͓̞̱͕̱̳̞̻̣g̦͕͈̙͎̳̀e̥͖̟̫̘̤͘ ͇̲̹͞o͓̺̯̘͓̩̺͝͠f̢͇̣̬̩͚̙͕͘ ̵̸̠̱́o̶̢̜͇̳̱͙̬͟u͉̭͘͟r͕̝̹̘̝̤͞ͅ ̳̩̟̭͚̹̕l̤̣̮̜͖e͏̙̝̪̱̩̻̩̯͚a̸̶̡̜̙̻͚̟̗͍d͚̪̥͉̟͔́́̕e̛͉̰͉̼͚r͢҉̱͎̳̝̞͍͖̗̀.̶̟̻͇̠̠̝̦̫ͅ
̢̗̗̘̖͔͝W̶͎̜͍̕͜h̛̹͓̝̟͉̲̯̘͚͡͠e̡̖̞̹̹̮̕n̦͖͡ͅ ͎̪̹̝̮͓̖̕͞t̘̮̀́͠h̸̢̺e̠͎̖̣͢ ̡͏̵͙̱̖s̸̴̨̤̱̝̫̞͕̳͇o̸̧̻̞͕͖͍͜ư̠̯̠̭̝̜̕ͅǹ̶͓͖̞͎͍̱͉̩̭d҉̛̖̼͎̻͝ ͍͙̟̘̗͘ͅi͙͖̹͖̖s̬̭̘͢ ̡̗̣̞̜h̷̙̳̘̮͝e̴̛̛͚͉̰á̘̙r̟̗̱̬̱͇͍͙d̯̳̼̭̗̳͍,̴͈̟̤͎͓̞͎ ̴̩̰͇y̙̹̩̕o̥͎̗̗̳̩͙͟u͏̸̝͙̥̟̝ ̺̝͍̼̱͘͠s̶̵͎̬͕h̶͉͉͈̺̠̀͢ͅa̷͖͇̣̯ͅl̸̗̣̩̝l͉͚̬̳͞ ҉̸̝̜̹̙̜͖̣ͅn̳̹̭͈̺̤ͅo̙͚ṯ͢ ̻̭̤̹͘͜͝s̸͔͉̠̼͖̞p͔̯̫̫̞͎̻e̳̥̺ͅa̺̼̞̗̱͠k̨͢҉̤͓̥̟͓͚.̷̨͕͓̖͔̦͓
̺̬̙̹͇W͡͏͍̩̰̪̙̮̯h̸̪͎͍͓̰̮͢e̸̺̲͖̫̼̫͎ṋ͇̩̖̥̮͉̺̳̀ ̺͙͖̞͢t̠͇͍̟̩̬͓͉h̩̩è̴̮̣͓ ̺̯̖͠ͅͅȩ̦͉̟͓͚̦̮a͖͈̻̠͖̦̩͙͘r̵̛̼̯͎̹͖ͅt̸̴͍͓͚͎̳̱ͅh̴̛̺͔ ̹̠̲̕͟b͏҉̡̯̞e̡̯̝͕̹͉̥̝͖͜l͕͕̖̼̼͎̖o̸̡͎̣̼͚͖̱͜w҉̵͔͕͎̰̫͔̥̫ ̱s̸̛͔̟̖͙̳͚h̜̬͚̖̘͜͠a̙̩̘̖͎k̦͇̕e͔̹͠s̸̫̰̞̲̣̜͉͕͞͞,̩̫ ̝͎̣͎̟̟͚̪y͉̟͉̩̙͇̙̤͞͞o̴̳̜̝͙͙̳̥̕u̬̞̰̫ ̸͡͏̭͈̤̱̭̟̞̖ş̖̪̖h̵̴̝̭̞̫a̷̘̘̱̻̟͍̘̺̘͢l͇̺͇̰͘l̗̤͇̺̬̲͖͡ͅ ̗͎̘̼̰̯͉͟n̵̗̲͕̹̼ò͍̲̮̲̜̳̗͚̰́ṭ̷̪̤͜ ̷̯͇̘̳̪̟͚̥s̫̝̻̣͠p͉è̞͙͓̱a̢̮͔̭̳͎͖̟͢͢k̛͚̭̤̯͘.̴̱̣̩͢͢
̺͍̤̖͞
̢͈̼̻̜͝W̛̟̜̩̪̹̻̝͘ͅh̩̹̲̟̀͝é̷̜̠̩̖̭͠n̪̼͡ ͞҉̲̣̱h̫͖̝̼͕̤͈e̞̻̺͝͞ ̗̬̫̭r̴̘̩͚̲͍͢í̶͖̞͎͖̼̩̺͓̪s̰̯̬̯͈é̸̖̲͉̬̻́s͙̱̘̪͚͇͎̟͝,̩͈͍̖͓͉̘̝̕ ̸̤̖̻͓̫̺͓̫ỳ̖͟o̸̵̶͓̯̩̳u͓̮̭̖͢ ̨̛͉͓͡s͍͖͙̫̭̜͔͈͢h̡͎͈̟̟̘̮a̡͙͙͍̪̬̬l͍͍̩l̢͏͕̫̪͚͉ ͎̼͖͚̫̳̼͍͡n̩̱̺̹̣̖o̬͈̲̼t̴̡̲ ̼̦͈ș̳͚́͡p̶̣̗̫͞e̙̟͍͉̺͔ą̸̛͉͇k͚̹̰͖̱͘.̼͇̙̩͙͔͟
̵̷̺͙͓̗͉̘͔̤͚W̶̤̯͇̬͙͘h̫̝̳̞̹̠̫̜͘e͏̻̝̺̳̗̹̺̪̟͠n̜̪ ̪̬͖͍͖͕̯̀͜y̵̷͓̦̭̜̟̼͞o͟҉̲̰̖̝u̡̧͇̼̦̯̻͇͖͓͍ ͙͚̘̱͍̤̳̥͡g̦̭̥̺̜̖͔̺ạ̵̀z̶̭̯e̗̜̬̟͍̩̰͡ ͞͏̦ṳ̸̵͈̯̮͘p̢͈̲̦̬o̸̭͖͕͉͓ń̢̬ͅ ̢̗͚̥̱͎̯̩ͅh̵̦̝̰͚͘į͓̦̗̩͈̮̦ͅm̹̫̝̱̙͙̦̪͡͝,̡͈̮͟ ̴͏̡̖̱̯̦̹y̸̤͕͠ò͕̦̳̖͖̭͡u͙̠͝ ̶̺͇̺̫̳͚̠̮s̴̮̞̼̦̳̕͜h̡̯̗̱̦̠́́a̴̡̭͓̟l̸̲̻̫̥̪̻̦͘l̟͔̞̹̠̳̭ ̢̘̯͈̲̪͞ͅn̶͏̙͎̞̜̙͕̮̦͝ò͙̣̣͎̦̖̭̩̖t͈̬̩̗̹̺̺͕̠́ ̡̮̹͚̺̼͇͘͞s̥̮̪̠̭̜̩̀̕p̴̛͏͈e̛̝̤̦̯̦̹̘ą̵͙͙̲̀k̰̮̥̺͕̪̥̀́.̦̪̟
̸̢̪̝͚͙͉
̶͍͓̹̝̫́Ṣ̶̝͓͇͉͕̱i͞͏͎̮͓̜̻͟ͅl̲̗͕̱͎̺̱͓e͏̵̠͍̹̙n̷͉͕͘͞ć͙̪͖͈̝̝͢ȩ͖̘̭͔̻̥̯̖͉͞ ͙̲͟ì̻̱̹̙͖s̖̖̟̭̙̟͠ ̣͝t̳͚̻̭͡ḫ̶̺̘̬͖̟̟͓͟͟e̛̗͕̟̰̺ ̵͖̗l̛̝͖̜̣̯̦͎a̤͎̩͉̕͜͢ͅn̶̴̯͈͇̲̻̱͟g̴̷͎u̶̙a̵҉͓̞̱͕̱̳̞̻̣g̦͕͈̙͎̳̀e̥͖̟̫̘̤͘ ͇̲̹͞o͓̺̯̘͓̩̺͝͠f̢͇̣̬̩͚̙͕͘ ̵̸̠̱́o̶̢̜͇̳̱͙̬͟u͉̭͘͟r͕̝̹̘̝̤͞ͅ ̳̩̟̭͚̹̕l̤̣̮̜͖e͏̙̝̪̱̩̻̩̯͚a̸̶̡̜̙̻͚̟̗͍d͚̪̥͉̟͔́́̕e̛͉̰͉̼͚r͢҉̱͎̳̝̞͍͖̗̀.̶̟̻͇̠̠̝̦̫ͅ
A quick theory:
There is someone who can force people to 'go mad' and post crazy zalgo poems (I did a quick search for the second one and couldn't find any matches, maybe I'm just bad at google) and then stop speaking.
They did so to Jolt for some unknown reason. [In my mind it can't be to frame notty, see below]
They saw us attacking notty for it and went "wait, shit, I can't let them kill notty."
Why? My guess is that they don't want notty to die. Again, why? Because notty being attacked was never their intent in forcing Jolt to go mad. So they made notty go mad as well to show that it wasn't her doing.
Of course this is all just crazy theorizing and it could be as simple as "Jolt posted a crazy zalgo poem to frame notty - Notty posted one too to take pressure off"
But moving on from that, The poem itself in readable form:
When the signal is given you shall not speak
When you hear the sound you shall not speak
When the earth shakes below you shall not speak
When he rises you shall not speak
When you gaze upon him you shall not speak
Silence is the language of our leader
There is someone who can force people to 'go mad' and post crazy zalgo poems (I did a quick search for the second one and couldn't find any matches, maybe I'm just bad at google) and then stop speaking.
They did so to Jolt for some unknown reason. [In my mind it can't be to frame notty, see below]
They saw us attacking notty for it and went "wait, shit, I can't let them kill notty."
Why? My guess is that they don't want notty to die. Again, why? Because notty being attacked was never their intent in forcing Jolt to go mad. So they made notty go mad as well to show that it wasn't her doing.
Of course this is all just crazy theorizing and it could be as simple as "Jolt posted a crazy zalgo poem to frame notty - Notty posted one too to take pressure off"
But moving on from that, The poem itself in readable form:
When the signal is given you shall not speak
When you hear the sound you shall not speak
When the earth shakes below you shall not speak
When he rises you shall not speak
When you gaze upon him you shall not speak
Silence is the language of our leader
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
So when I post a stupid poem with zalgo it's a reason to lynch me, when jolt posts a stupid poem with zalgo it's also a reason to lynch me.
Sure, makes sense. I just wanted to point out that we've gotten to the point where someone made an argument thats even worse than my roleplay argument against nita. I mean seriously Erik, you're voting me because Jolt posted some stupid poem from a famous russian poet?
I could do a literary analysis of the poem and then guess whether or not I think you'd be likely to have written that poem yourself.....But it's early in the morning, I don't have much time, and I already searched and couldn't find it so I'll take your word for it.
This is basically the same way mastersten denied the alcohol thing when questioned
Dunno if you were bsing or not with the poem but either way it isn't helping town. In fact it's confusing town further.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
I spent like 20 min trying to google a russian poet with relation to Jolt's claimed name so I could do to him what he did to me, I couldn't find anything so instead I made one up myself to see what reactions I'd get lol.
I'm still baffled that after waking up suddenly people have gotten the idea that I had anything to do with A mad post from Jolt. Honestly its not confusing its simply completely stupid to think there is some role out there that can mind controll you to post a poem in zalgo, so I didn't really care for posting one myself. If I get lynched for zalgo poems I'm giving up on rational thoughts.
Eh well priz did ask us to stop shitposting so I guess that's something.
I was actually going to point this out when I was going to put italics in my post for specific segments of my sentences, noting the flavour text I was noting. I had gone back to check, but couldn't find anything against it in the 10 listed rules... But I think I decided against it?
Very strange, though. Especially given how much time and effort was put into this Mafia match.