Русская мафия! [Complete]
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No I'm not lynching you because of
some stupid poem from a famous Russian poet. I am however lynching you because jolt hasn't taken any action on this thread ever since he made that post (rates and/or posts) and you share a first name with the poet while you have not shared your last name but I'm going to assume you do one way or another. However, I do agree with that fact that hunter wanting to lynch you simply because of posting zalgo is annoying and irrational. Of course my whole "jolt isn't posting gonna assume he's being mind controlled" would be taken more seriously if not replying to anything wasn't considered a "play style"
Compared to your earlier arguments against notty, your push on jolt has been lacking evidence. You flipped sides suddenly overnight, could you be related to the tim/notty "someone"?
Mooglie
The Local Cow
um if you're asking if i got any message/connection to the weird power lose thing then no
well
i don't trust notty at all but i believe a lot of the case is rubbish and i believe there are pro-town reasons for it
i just trust jolt less
im still waiting on an answer from catgirl12466 instead of trying to spin the potato question onto me
TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW
well
i don't trust notty at all but i believe a lot of the case is rubbish and i believe there are pro-town reasons for it
i just trust jolt less
im still waiting on an answer from catgirl12466 instead of trying to spin the potato question onto me
TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW
I felt like there just had been a lot of flavourful naming going around (or at least people claiming to have flavourful naming...) So I sorta assumed it was more or less normal. Of course, I should have remembered how dangerous it can be to go around mafia games making assumptions.
At this point, I don't know what in the world to think, with all the seemingly random stuff and arguments circling around. Notty's continuing to be confusing as always and their own recent attempt at a poem seems actually counterproductive to the town. I have to go right now, but given the more recent pages
Unvote
Mooglie
The Local Cow
well yeah but what actions since that claim post
trying to get their fos lynched?
posting a poem as a joke?
rating posts funny?
meanwhile some interesting tidbits i remembered to go back for by priz so they can't be lies!
this is at the beginning of this day when notty and jolt ( before they were enemies :') ) posted the role information for ender (tracker), naoh (templar) and vatu (clockmaker). knowing what we know about duffie, the post could be linked to the clockmaker thing and their specific hypothetical rivalry. however, this is what mainly drove me towards my original suspicions about jolt with the jailer name and how there are no odd things about it seeing as roles are never played straight. vanilla role, vanilla abilities? then there could be stuff about the templars which sprouted from duffie's distrust of hunter that maybe they were different factions (and knowing that naoh was town, it could mean hunter is town or something else).
ok this is mainly about the text with the votecount (you all suck)
at this point in the game erik had not revealed jolt visiting notty, jolt had not claimed jailer, duffie had not claimed curfew enforcer, the mass shitposting didnt really start so why could we of sucked
well, it could be from priz knowing that erik had info important to the situation but he didnt say it (until later)
or it could be that people were jumping onto the notty bandwagon if they're innocent or that not enough people were jumping onto it if they're guilty
in my mind it would be people jumping on too easily but it could be spun either way (i just thought it was noteworthy)
but yeah i thought i should make a decent contribution for once
Just a heads up, I'm going through the posts looking for facts and making a some tables.
It'll be a while until it posts, but feel free to add additional facts to the equation.
And by facts I mean stuff that have been brought to attention by the person specifically, not based on how you view them in general.
It'll be a while until it posts, but feel free to add additional facts to the equation.
And by facts I mean stuff that have been brought to attention by the person specifically, not based on how you view them in general.
Yes, I realize this, but I guess I just mean "no opinions"..?
I'm not sure, I can't think of the words right now. I don't want to throw accusations out there, but let's just keep things civil, mature, and stick to the game.
I sincerely apologize if that is what you got out of me calling them facts. That was not my intention, as I will now explain.
When I have said facts previously, I meant to say what was previously stated in the thread... So, what I should have said is reiterate, or to repeat what has been said.
I honestly, and most sincerely, just wish to play a game of mafia, without constant off-topic and misleading discussions. With how this game has been going thus far, I'm losing faith in having any fun playing this game, or enjoying my time back with this community. I don't mean to make this personal, but just note that I may consider getting a replacement in the future.
Anyway, I'll be seeing myself back to calculating all of the evidence on everyone.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
So current votecount:
Nottykitten (6/10) - Notme, Jolteon42, Hunter, Aqua, Erik5456, Jivvi
Jolteon42 (5/10) - Nottykitten, Duffie, Ooglie101, Tim, CaffeinatedKitty
Not voted: myusername22 JKangaroo catgirl12466 Mastersten Watermelon1388 77thShad Infected_alien8_ Samlen
Tagging you all because current discussion(at the time I started writing this) is not really a usefull discussion so I want to know what you guys think.
As far as I can tell how the situation currently is:
- 77 is going to vote me I think.
- Infected probs got confused by alot of things I said, which is normal for a newer player. So I think he might vote me for being confusing. (though I hope not <3)
- Myuser voted me before and I think might do it again.
- JK seemed to lean towards the Jolt vote.
- Cat has made 1 post and it wasn't about any of us so I doubt she'll vote.
- Same with water? Or did I miss Waters' post.
- And I forgot which side Master was on but I think he found me suspicious.
- Sam just unvoted, don't think he knows what to do with me anymore.
Looking at this list I made it doesn't look very good for me. So here i'm gonna write a pros/cons list between lynching me or jolt for all you who havent voted yet.
But first let me just tell all of you that my partners ability is to investigate. I soft-claimed this before in my other long-ish post with spoilers where I explained my role. The reason for claiming to be apart of this chat with my partner in the first place was so that later in the game I didn't have to suddenly claim to be in a nightchat with someone that has investigative abilities. Because I thought that nobody would believe such a cop claim later in the game, so I tried to do the inn/nightchat part today. Which I saw a good opportunity for when people asked if someone was in an inn.
I get that I have been keeping some information from you/slowly revealing information, but put yourself in my perspective it was a bad idea to immediately claim everything about my role. I thought I could get away with just revealing a bit of it but people were only suspicious of me.
My name is Aleksandr Salko, I am a Policeman. A policeman in training, as I don't have the investigate ability myself but it is my partners'. Speaking of my partner, he is not exactly my partner but more my boss. As he's the Head of the Police force. But for easy purposes I'll keep refering to him as my partner. Previously I used it as an example but it is exactly what happened that night: we investigated 77thShad and we got no result back from the host. I would refer to myself as a cop claim, since while the ability isn't exactly mine, I can still give advice to the Head of the Police force who we should use it on and I can see the result when we do get one.
Now you might just say "But Notty is just claiming this to try and not get lynched". And you're absolutely right, as cop I should try not to get lynched so ofcourse I am going to fullclaim if I am close to getting lynched. Which is why I kept revealing a bit more information everytime to try and hope it is enough so that I didn't have to fully claim. I guess my fatal mistake was claiming to be in an inn at the start of Day 1, but it was my strategy to try and put part of my roleclaim out there and after I said it there was no turning back.
Futhermore, about the Tim/me thing with deaths. I said I was quite confident that I knew what was going to happen to me when "someone" dies, and I am. I believe what will happen is that I lose my chat with my partner and my partner will have to go on investigating without me. Possibly it could be that would mean my training is complete and I gain an investigative ability myself, but I am not sure about that.
So what does this mean? It means you're gonna have to choose to vote between a Cop claim and a Jailer claim. Which is a situation you probabily don't want to be in on any day, let stand the first productive day of the game. But we're in this situation now and you're gonna have to choose.
If you look back at my playstyle and the things I've said/done I think you will be able to see that I've mostly played in the interrest of trying to keep the fact that we can investigate a secret. Ofcourse there were some post you might call unnecesairy/confusing for the town, like when I was mocking Jolteon's poem by posting my own Poem because I deem it to be ridiculous. Which in hindsight might not of been best since some people don't get sarcasm/jokes, but other than that I tried my best to keep the Investigating ability a secret and also not to be a killing target for the Mafia if I ever did survive the day.
I know I'm not a very good cop, Its a role I am quite bad at playing. It's just not really a good role for my kind of playstyle, which speaks for itself considering I am up for lynching right now.
So now that I've said that you're gonna have to make a choice between me/Jolt. And as I said I would make a pros/cons list to try and help you with your decision. Note that these pros/cons lists are written from my perspective, and if you want a pros/cons list from Jolt's perspective you should ask Jolt to make one. I'm saying Jolt, and not Hunter because Hunter is very biased in my opinion and he will not make a good list in my opinion. It would be better to get the list from the other person that's up for lynching, which is Jolt.
Some last words that I hope convince you not to vote me:
I've tried to contribute to every possible conversation, and to be useful to the town. I guess some jokes/sarcasm that I posted weren't perceived very greatly and caused confusion atleast twice, which is ofcourse my mistake so I'll try to write things more clearly. Sure my writing style can be a bit messy at times but other than that, in my opinion I think I've been helpful to the town. Consider keeping me alive for I can be even more usefull later when I can tell the town the investigative findings from me and my partner. I have no proof that my claim is the real deal, as I got roleblocked, but I hope that you believe me and vote the right person.
Thanks for reading this 1.5k words long post <3
Nottykitten (6/10) - Notme, Jolteon42, Hunter, Aqua, Erik5456, Jivvi
Jolteon42 (5/10) - Nottykitten, Duffie, Ooglie101, Tim, CaffeinatedKitty
Not voted: myusername22 JKangaroo catgirl12466 Mastersten Watermelon1388 77thShad Infected_alien8_ Samlen
Tagging you all because current discussion(at the time I started writing this) is not really a usefull discussion so I want to know what you guys think.
As far as I can tell how the situation currently is:
- 77 is going to vote me I think.
- Infected probs got confused by alot of things I said, which is normal for a newer player. So I think he might vote me for being confusing. (though I hope not <3)
- Myuser voted me before and I think might do it again.
- JK seemed to lean towards the Jolt vote.
- Cat has made 1 post and it wasn't about any of us so I doubt she'll vote.
- Same with water? Or did I miss Waters' post.
- And I forgot which side Master was on but I think he found me suspicious.
- Sam just unvoted, don't think he knows what to do with me anymore.
Looking at this list I made it doesn't look very good for me. So here i'm gonna write a pros/cons list between lynching me or jolt for all you who havent voted yet.
But first let me just tell all of you that my partners ability is to investigate. I soft-claimed this before in my other long-ish post with spoilers where I explained my role. The reason for claiming to be apart of this chat with my partner in the first place was so that later in the game I didn't have to suddenly claim to be in a nightchat with someone that has investigative abilities. Because I thought that nobody would believe such a cop claim later in the game, so I tried to do the inn/nightchat part today. Which I saw a good opportunity for when people asked if someone was in an inn.
I get that I have been keeping some information from you/slowly revealing information, but put yourself in my perspective it was a bad idea to immediately claim everything about my role. I thought I could get away with just revealing a bit of it but people were only suspicious of me.
My name is Aleksandr Salko, I am a Policeman. A policeman in training, as I don't have the investigate ability myself but it is my partners'. Speaking of my partner, he is not exactly my partner but more my boss. As he's the Head of the Police force. But for easy purposes I'll keep refering to him as my partner. Previously I used it as an example but it is exactly what happened that night: we investigated 77thShad and we got no result back from the host. I would refer to myself as a cop claim, since while the ability isn't exactly mine, I can still give advice to the Head of the Police force who we should use it on and I can see the result when we do get one.
Now you might just say "But Notty is just claiming this to try and not get lynched". And you're absolutely right, as cop I should try not to get lynched so ofcourse I am going to fullclaim if I am close to getting lynched. Which is why I kept revealing a bit more information everytime to try and hope it is enough so that I didn't have to fully claim. I guess my fatal mistake was claiming to be in an inn at the start of Day 1, but it was my strategy to try and put part of my roleclaim out there and after I said it there was no turning back.
Futhermore, about the Tim/me thing with deaths. I said I was quite confident that I knew what was going to happen to me when "someone" dies, and I am. I believe what will happen is that I lose my chat with my partner and my partner will have to go on investigating without me. Possibly it could be that would mean my training is complete and I gain an investigative ability myself, but I am not sure about that.
So what does this mean? It means you're gonna have to choose to vote between a Cop claim and a Jailer claim. Which is a situation you probabily don't want to be in on any day, let stand the first productive day of the game. But we're in this situation now and you're gonna have to choose.
If you look back at my playstyle and the things I've said/done I think you will be able to see that I've mostly played in the interrest of trying to keep the fact that we can investigate a secret. Ofcourse there were some post you might call unnecesairy/confusing for the town, like when I was mocking Jolteon's poem by posting my own Poem because I deem it to be ridiculous. Which in hindsight might not of been best since some people don't get sarcasm/jokes, but other than that I tried my best to keep the Investigating ability a secret and also not to be a killing target for the Mafia if I ever did survive the day.
I know I'm not a very good cop, Its a role I am quite bad at playing. It's just not really a good role for my kind of playstyle, which speaks for itself considering I am up for lynching right now.
So now that I've said that you're gonna have to make a choice between me/Jolt. And as I said I would make a pros/cons list to try and help you with your decision. Note that these pros/cons lists are written from my perspective, and if you want a pros/cons list from Jolt's perspective you should ask Jolt to make one. I'm saying Jolt, and not Hunter because Hunter is very biased in my opinion and he will not make a good list in my opinion. It would be better to get the list from the other person that's up for lynching, which is Jolt.
Pros:
- My death would prove that I am town and it will prove I have a partner who is a cop.
- An active and a bit of a "confusing(though not my intention)" player would be gone from the game.
Cons:
- Something very bad might happen to Tim(who claims to be town PR), and that could be very bad for the town.
- While my death proves I have a partner, my death will mean that if my partner wants to tell the town his investigative findings, he'd have to claim. This puts my partner out in the open in the crosshairs of the Mafia. While right now my partner has someone who can tell the town the investigation results for him, which would be me.
- You lynch 50% of this town's police force, lynching a cop is never good.
- My death would prove that I am town and it will prove I have a partner who is a cop.
- An active and a bit of a "confusing(though not my intention)" player would be gone from the game.
Cons:
- Something very bad might happen to Tim(who claims to be town PR), and that could be very bad for the town.
- While my death proves I have a partner, my death will mean that if my partner wants to tell the town his investigative findings, he'd have to claim. This puts my partner out in the open in the crosshairs of the Mafia. While right now my partner has someone who can tell the town the investigation results for him, which would be me.
- You lynch 50% of this town's police force, lynching a cop is never good.
Pros:
- I believe he is Mafia, and once lynched will give us quite a bit of information about who is Mafia when we look at who supported him.
- If he is indeed Mafia, the Mafia roleblocker would be gone. This is a HUGE advantage for the town, and an opportunity we should not waste.
- If you're really not sure who to lynch between us two, think about what order would be best to lynch us in:
If we lynch him before me, his death will be able to prove I am indeed town sided as I've been going for a Jolt lynch for quite a while now. And it will mean the cop is still alive.
If we lynch me first, the cop will die and Jolt will have another night where he can use his roleblock to try and prevent the town PR's from performing an action.
Cons:
- If he isn't mafia(which I doubt but I have to put this con in here), then we lynched a non-mafia and suspicion will fall on both me and Duffie. Considering I know I'm town and that I believe Duffie to be town, this could end up with the next day being a mislynch from me/Duffie. However keep in mind that this is only if he isn't Mafia, which I find highly unlikely.
- I believe he is Mafia, and once lynched will give us quite a bit of information about who is Mafia when we look at who supported him.
- If he is indeed Mafia, the Mafia roleblocker would be gone. This is a HUGE advantage for the town, and an opportunity we should not waste.
- If you're really not sure who to lynch between us two, think about what order would be best to lynch us in:
If we lynch him before me, his death will be able to prove I am indeed town sided as I've been going for a Jolt lynch for quite a while now. And it will mean the cop is still alive.
If we lynch me first, the cop will die and Jolt will have another night where he can use his roleblock to try and prevent the town PR's from performing an action.
Cons:
- If he isn't mafia(which I doubt but I have to put this con in here), then we lynched a non-mafia and suspicion will fall on both me and Duffie. Considering I know I'm town and that I believe Duffie to be town, this could end up with the next day being a mislynch from me/Duffie. However keep in mind that this is only if he isn't Mafia, which I find highly unlikely.
Some last words that I hope convince you not to vote me:
I've tried to contribute to every possible conversation, and to be useful to the town. I guess some jokes/sarcasm that I posted weren't perceived very greatly and caused confusion atleast twice, which is ofcourse my mistake so I'll try to write things more clearly. Sure my writing style can be a bit messy at times but other than that, in my opinion I think I've been helpful to the town. Consider keeping me alive for I can be even more usefull later when I can tell the town the investigative findings from me and my partner. I have no proof that my claim is the real deal, as I got roleblocked, but I hope that you believe me and vote the right person.
Thanks for reading this 1.5k words long post <3
Mastersten
In Omnia Paratus
at the moment I don't really know whose side I am either but I find it rather suspicious that jolteon just stopped posting after that weird obfuscated poem
(and it's a bit suspicious that notty posted same kind of obfuscated message to test hunter)
but overall I feel that jolteon's 'anti-town' actions weighs more then notty's so
Vote Jolteon42
(and it's a bit suspicious that notty posted same kind of obfuscated message to test hunter)
but overall I feel that jolteon's 'anti-town' actions weighs more then notty's so
Vote Jolteon42