The Red Scare [Game Over]

[Enderfive]

Also do we assume Samlen is Vanilla townie due to the fact they said they were going and night actions still happened?

we aren't assuming anything at all about him

I just picked out some quotes which I found interesting about this matter unu.

what exactly are these supposed to show

it's fine to throw quotes at us, but unless we know why they're relevant, it's pretty pointless to do so, and the quotes you've given us don't really show anything to me at first glance

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I thought you said you felt like she did somewhere. Or was that Aqua? :S

No idea

 

[HKCaper]

Ignore my points on Unu and TWG not both being mafia. Still think TWG is mafia, and Unu is not though.

 

[HKCaper]

And Inffy if anything is confusing you, besides the Unu/TWG thing, quote them, cus now I got no clue what you want.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

No idea

Forget that then C:

 

[Infected_alien8_]

And Inffy if anything is confusing you, besides the Unu/TWG thing, quote them, cus now I got no clue what you want.

Well you've already explained the first one, it just doesn't make much sense to me, and when I pointed that out you basically justified your sudden conclusion that seemed to come from nowhere by saying it was your 'vibes', in which case fair enough but I'm just struggling to believe that your posts weren't actually attempts at somehow defending Iggish because of some other reason, like maybe he's your partner or maybe he isn't but you're Mafia and want to look innocent by defending him:

Okay, since the whole is Ooglie Joseph thing is going on, I guess there is no harm in saying that I am almost sure they arent mafia:

1. Well ye, if Ooglie is Joseph, Ooglie aint anything so...
2. Ooglie was the first (with Inffy, but I think Ooglie was slightly faster) to really suspect Aqua, as you can see in the figure I reposted from Foggy.

Than moving on to Iggish. Although I had suspicions on Iggish before (hell I even voted him at one point) I don't think he is mafia anymore, since he posted this:

Ye, that post. If he was mafia, surely he would not have said this (unless Ender/Aqua set him up to this, since they were the ones to point out the mistake Iggish made, but that is too much of a conspiracy theory to actually be possible I think :/ )

Mhm that's it for now, stay tuned, cus I might be back later.

Wait I'm confused, why don't you think he'd say that as mafia?

He would have known it not to be true, since if he were mafia he would have know Aqua was mafia. And I do not think he said that with any cheeky intentions, but purely because it was just a random though he had.

But if he was mafia with aqua then it'd do him good to make people think he was town pr. And he could easily have said it as a mindgame to make him think he doesn't know aqua's role.

Here is the way I see it,

1. It is what you mention in the quote. Result: Aqua, Iggish and Ender are/were mafia and they set this up for a cheeky strat.
2. Iggy is town.

I'd much rather believe option 2 to be true, but that is just my 'vibes' I guess.

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Then your point about unu and TWG, doubting they'd both be Mafia together, which you've now gone back on but I'm still curious as to what your thought was on that

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also I just realised you said that if iggy was using a mindgame then Ender would be Mafia, how does that work?

 

[Fog]

I'm now FOSing TWG due to the fact that Mulb chose to save him over Aqua who was a confirmed teammate... although I do question whether this is correct due to the fact that Aqua has more experience that TWG... I'm a little confused by the whole situation

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I'm now FOSing TWG due to the fact that Mulb chose to save him over Aqua who was a confirmed teammate... although I do question whether this is correct due to the fact that Aqua has more experience that TWG... I'm a little confused by the whole situation

Well if Ender's theory is right, killing Aqua over TWG would drag Ender down too, and plus let's be real clearly Aqua wasn't doing a very good job at being Mafia. I think there were other theories too but I forgot.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

All that's just speculation though

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also oak you still need to answer my question about why you chose TWG over Aqua specifically

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also Oak63 you still need to answer my question about why you chose TWG over Aqua specifically

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Mobile hates me sorry

 

[HKCaper]

I realise my opinion on Iggish is starting to blow out of proportions, so I'll take my time to respond to that in a bit. Hold your horses.

Also about the TWG and Unu thing, I am willing to share with you what thoughts I had, since I do not think it can change/hurt the game in any way

My thought was, since Unu and TWG are siblings it would be odd if they were both mafia, because they could easily discuss things outside of game (which isnt allowed), without anyone finding out. However, mafia is chosen random, plus Ltin did not know they were siblings. Hence I deemed my whole theory nonsense, and chose not to explain myself. Something you (who else) would of course not go unnoticed

Also, Inffy if you are town, I swear you are making this game so hard for both of us (and arguably the whole town), since you will just not let me go. It seems I cannot do anything to help town, without you causing trouble.

I think that is it for now. Tell me if anything seems out of place or missing (for this post, so nothing related to Iggy just yet)

 

[Enderfive]

Well if Ender's theory is right, killing Aqua over TWG would drag Ender down too, and plus let's be real clearly Aqua wasn't doing a very good job at being Mafia. I think there were other theories too but I forgot.

All that's just speculation though

Also oak you still need to answer my question about why you chose TWG over Aqua specifically

Also Oak63 you still need to answer my question about why you chose TWG over Aqua specifically

Mobile hates me sorry

 

[Fog]

I suppose this backs up Notty's idea that Inf is satan

 

[Iggish]

In response to Inf saying that I may be a frustrated panicking town, ofcourse I'm frustrated. Ender voted me and didn't give me a reason why. Then he gave his reasons later why he voted me because of my response to him voting me for no reason. It's only recently that he has brought up the vigilante stuff so why did he vote me in the first place and at the same time, why didn't he give a reason?
Ender probably knew I'd react in a frustrated way and for that reason chose to not tell me his reasons for voting. Because of my reaction, he can now justify his vote to (as I said before) draw attention away from the fact that him and Aqua were working closely together.

 

[Iggish]

He knows he's gotten under my skin. Look, even now he has rated the post above funny.

 

[Enderfive]

He knows he's gotten under my skin. Look, even now he has rated the post above funny.

i mean it is kinda funny how you keep rehashing the same points you made

 

[Iggish]

Ok how about you answer my question then. Why did you vote me at the start of the day without giving any reasons at the time?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Is it just me or did Ender give a reason immediately

 

[HKCaper]

Also I just realised you said that if iggy was using a mindgame then Ender would be Mafia, how does that work?

I think you can agree, if Iggy was using a mindgame Aqua was involved, by immediately calling out Iggy for mentioning the whole thing, thus setting up a possible cover. Ender was, like Aqua, very quick to respond to Iggy and point out his mistakes (even before Aqua iirc), hence making me believe Ender would have been in on it aswell (if this was a thing).

Also there just seems to a dynamic between Ender and Aqua in general, and between Ender, Aqua and Iggy revolving around the vig post. Concerning what Iggy is going on about just now (while I was halfway through this post) there are 3 possible reasons why Ender could have voted you in my eyes:

1. He sees the whole vigilante things as evidence you were mafia with Aqua (I think he has mentioned something along these lines somewhere).
2. He is continuing on the whole mindgame he had going on with Iggish and Aqua, hence doing everything he can to just cause confusement/ distant himself from Aqua/Igg. (At this point I am starting to doubt this though, since they are really going too hard on eachother if they both were mafia)
3. RVS

But I think Ender mentioned point 1 to be the reason doe. Just all the reasons I gave sorta continue on my story as well.

All I can say is that everything is really confusing me at this point xD. Too much shit going on. Town: we have to calm down and get our shit together, please.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Well if Ender's theory is right, killing Aqua over TWG would drag Ender down too, and plus let's be real clearly Aqua wasn't doing a very good job at being Mafia. I think there were other theories too but I forgot.

Well, after day 1 we knew this:

- Aqua is mafia.
- Foggy, Mulbery, Infected, Unu (me), Weak, Notty and Ooglie voted for lynching Aqua.
- Ender, Iggish, HKCaper, Oak, Caffe and Aqua voted against lynching Auqa.

Then after night 2 we knew this:

- Mulbery was mafia.
- Caffe was killed.

So, the question is, why did Mulbery want to sacrifise his own mafia member. It obviously would put everyone who voted for an Aqualynch + weak in a good position, and those who didn't in a bad one. I believe the mafias wanted it to end with an Aqua lynch, and put much suspicions around Ender, Iggish, Oak and HKCaper, which didn't vote for Aqua. I believe we therefore should take a look into the people who instead voted for lynching Aqua, and those were Foggy, Mulbery, Infected, Weak, me, Notty and Ooglie. Since Mulbery is dead, and Notty and Ooglie most likely are cult leaders, we are left with Weak, Unu, Infected and Foggy.

 

[Enderfive]

Is it just me or did Ender give a reason immediately

i didn't actually, for reasons i explained later

Ok how about you answer my question then. Why did you vote me at the start of the day without giving any reasons at the time?

i voted you because you were still pushing for the vig identity and i wanted to put pressure on you to see what you'd do, and you reacted just the way i figured you would if you were mafia

lern2read

a reaction test is worthless if the person targeted is aware that it's a reaction test

 

[HKCaper]

Lel Inffy excuse me for asking, but why did you rate my post earlier funny? Were you laughing with me or at me? (I have to know, I find the funny rating overall a bit 'dodgy')

Do note: I swear if anyone rates this post funny I'll have a meltdown.