Rick and Morty - The Non Canonical Mafia Game - Guess we're not getting to post 2000 :(

[Fog]

We don't know she's going to die in the night and we don't know that if she doesn't then something's afoot (or a leg for that matter HAHAH)

And if it was, I wasn't told that I did or that I would be drugging her, but I did visit her last night

We don't know if you are going to die in the night now do we??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

So why did you visit Claire? What were your intentions?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I would argue that I haven't seen hip and ender contribute copious amounts either, they've definitely contributed to the game here and there but I'd argue I've contributed a fair bit too, even if in not 5x posts and more in short posts

yeah ender's been really quiet imo, I was thinking about it earlier

hip's also quiet but he's always quiet and I trust him since he's not seeming mafia-like at all

 

[Infected_alien8_]

We don't know if you are going to die in the night now do we??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

So why did you visit Claire? What were your intentions?

No, we don't, but I'm hoping that the lovely amazing doctor person sees that my life is valuable + the general opinion seems to be that arelic is more scummy than me so I hope they will protect me!

And I'm not saying why I visited her

 

[Fog]

Inffy and Hip trust each other.... something is wrong... this cannot happen

 

[Fog]

No, we don't, but I'm hoping that the lovely amazing doctor person sees that my life is valuable + the general opinion seems to be that arelic is more scummy than me so I hope they will protect me!

And I'm not saying why I visited her

If the doctor (if there is one?) has any sense they would understand your life is disposable. I mean if I were the doctor I would only save you on the basis that I knew you were a valuable PR role, and if that was the case if I did 'heal' you, you would be protected anyways and be able to tell us your findings, thus helping the town...

Just sayin

 

[Infected_alien8_]

If the doctor (if there is one?) has any sense they would understand your life is disposable. I mean if I were the doctor I would only save you on the basis that I knew you were a valuable PR role, and if that was the case if I did 'heal' you, you would be protected anyways and be able to tell us your findings, thus helping the town...

Just sayin

Yes, and I am a valuable PR role, which is why the doctor should heal me

 

[Fog]

Yes, and I am a valuable PR role, which is why the doctor should heal me

Do tell more, I mean if you are that valuable I would suggest claiming so then the doctor has some incentive to save you

 

[hipmeow]

Do tell more, I mean if you are that valuable I would suggest claiming so then the doctor has some incentive to save you

foggy look im pretty sure everyone has tried to get inf to claim i dont think its going to happen

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Do tell more, I mean if you are that valuable I would suggest claiming so then the doctor has some incentive to save you

Where have you been for the past 32 pages

Claiming is a bad idea in my opinion, at least for today, for reasons which I won't say

 

[Infected_alien8_]

wow look hunter trying to get me to claim again by rating foggy's post 'thank you'!!!

 

[hipmeow]

anyway inf did you say why you switched back to arelic

 

[Fog]

Where have you been for the past 32 pages

Claiming is a bad idea in my opinion, at least for today, for reasons which I won't say

So you'd rather not claim and therefore have the doctor ignore you as you have shown no proof that you are really town sided and you are happy to die of birdflu during the night and not actually have contributed anything useful to the game?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

anyway inf did you say why you switched back to arelic

Yes, in summary

- Arelic's death potentially gives us a huge amount of information about how the game relates to the show and whether or not I'm right in that the mafia are the rebels in the show, which would be useful to know when everyone claims their names/roles

- Arelic could have a dangerous mafia-sided ability that we'd let her use tonight

- Lynching Iggish could be a waste, whereas even if Arelic's innocent we'd get a lot of useful information

- If Iggish is serial killer then the cop or whatever can find that out tonight and we can get him tomorrow, and he could even kill a mafia for us tonight if we're lucky


But I'd be happy lynching Iggish too since I can see the benefits

So you'd rather not claim and therefore have the doctor ignore you as you have shown no proof that you are really town sided and you are happy to die of birdflu during the night and not actually have contributed anything useful to the game?

Claiming is a worse idea than that, yes. And claiming wouldn't prove I'm town-sided either, nor would it contribute to the game. I've given the information that's useful/worth saying without claiming my official role, and as far as I can see, that's the most beneficial thing I can do today

 

[Hunter]

Arelic could have a powerful ability for all we know - but she hasn't claimed PR yet - but she could be a threat to us still with whatever power she has, if she's mafia sided

Just because me and claire survive tomorrow doesn't prove that the illness thing was fake - for all we know there's multiple medically trained roles in this setup, or other shenanigans happened.

Tbh Claire hasn't done much of anything and she hasn't been concerned enough to claim while you panic about
Any argument to lynch Claire seems to be based on the assumption she's some huge threat

Yes, and I am a valuable PR role, which is why the doctor should heal me

Seriously though how does outing yourself as a "powerful PR" without giving any useful information help us in any way
It gives antitown incentive to target you without helping us determine who the threats are

Dunno if you're a granny-type that does something to whoever visits you, or you have to get a certain amount of people to visit you, or something, idk why you'd do this if not to encourage multiple other players to kill/save/visit you during the next night? Perhaps you got the disease from Claire, or you visited her to give her the disease, and it's spread regardless of who visits who???

[end ramble]

ANYWAY
If we're looking at inactive players, I think we're all overlooking Ooglie101 as all he's done is shitpost a few times without anyone calling him out on inactivity

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Seriously though how does outing yourself as a "powerful PR" without giving any useful information help us in any way
It gives antitown incentive to target you without helping us determine who the threats are

You seem to assume that by me claiming my role, it'd help determine who the threats are

I've said I'm a valuable PR because if the doctor trusts me to be town, then they'll consider saving my life tonight, in which case the mafia targeting me would be a good thing since they'd get no kill

 

[Enderfive]

yeah ender's been really quiet imo, I was thinking about it earlier

you can file that one under "ender is perpetually juggling like at least five different duties, which may include, but are certainly not limited to: a mafia game, a d&d campaign he dms, senior year in high school, debating, every weekend is a party, usually with 10+ shots of vodka"

also foggy has a point, if the doc is gonna save you anyway, who cares if you claim or not, and if they don't, who cares if you claim or not

your survival (assuming you've been honest so far) does not depend on anything you do or don't say, so please just tell us your role, what it does, and whatever inconsequential piece of info you've still been hiding from us regarding arelic

it might not help you save your life, but it might help the town in the long run; more info is always good

if you don't come clear and you die tonight and flip town, you are hindering your own faction

if you don't come clear and you don't die i will automatically assume you're maf

 

[Hunter]

- Arelic's death potentially gives us a huge amount of information about how the game relates to the show and whether or not I'm right in that the mafia are the rebels in the show, which would be useful to know when everyone claims their names/roles

literally this is dumb. this is a closed setup, people can lie about their role names, and even if this were true then antitown, if they have that as their theme, would just know to lie about their role name

- Arelic could have a dangerous mafia-sided ability that we'd let her use tonight

so could you. what would even be considered a dangerous mafia-sided ability anyway? bussing?
swear to god if anyone is a bus/night action swapper i will hunt you down into the depths of hell itself regardless of alignment
that shit has fucked me over so many times it's unreal

- Lynching Iggish could be a waste, whereas even if Arelic's innocent we'd get a lot of useful information

this is literally your first point stated with slightly different wording

- If Iggish is serial killer then the cop or whatever can find that out tonight and we can get him tomorrow, and he could even kill a mafia for us tonight if we're lucky

correct me if I'm wrong, but don't serial killers or even third party in general traditionally show as innocent in cop reports
otherwise they'd have even less chance of succeeding

 

[Enderfive]

i mean i legitimately don't see any way how you hiding shit from us can be in any way good for the town

 

[Fog]

You seem to assume that by me claiming my role, it'd help determine who the threats are

I've said I'm a valuable PR because if the doctor trusts me to be town, then they'll consider saving my life tonight, in which case the mafia targeting me would be a good thing since they'd get no kill

If I were doctor I would leave you to bleed out

 

[Infected_alien8_]

also foggy has a point, if the doc is gonna save you anyway, who cares if you claim or not, and if they don't, who cares if you claim or not

As I told hip before, the reason I'm not claiming isn't because I don't want to be targeted tonight, there's another reason

your survival (assuming you've been honest so far) does not depend on anything you do or don't say, so please just tell us your role, what it does, and whatever inconsequential piece of info you've still been hiding from us regarding arelic

it might not help you save your life, but it might help the town in the long run; more info is always good

Tbh the piece of info is probably extremely over-valued in everyone's minds, it's just a tiny thing I know that adds a little cherry on top for why I think it's likely that she's mafia, but it hinges on a theory which is still yet to be confirmed

if you don't come clear and you die tonight and flip town, you are hindering your own faction

I'd argue that if I do come clear I'm probably hindering my own faction more. I mean maybe not, but I'm not risking it

if you don't come clear and you don't die i will automatically assume you're maf

That's fine

 

[hipmeow]

imo arelic must be the person spreading birdflu seeing as they may be birdperson. if thats the case isnt that reason enough to lynch them? i cant think of any other character to actually spread this infection.

 

[Hunter]

To be fair, it takes an incredibly high IQ to not hinder your own faction in a game of Forum Mafia

 

[Infected_alien8_]

literally this is dumb. this is a closed setup, people can lie about their role names, and even if this were true then antitown, if they have that as their theme, would just know to lie about their role name

And when they claim their roles we can see if it matches with their character or not, and since their actual ability would probably line up with their character in the show somehow, they wouldn't be able to say their real ability and use it to prove themselves, they'd be forced to make one up lest risk it not fitting the new character, and it rids them of the luxury of claiming the same ability but with a different allignment, like people have done in the past

so could you. what would even be considered a dangerous mafia-sided ability anyway? bussing?
swear to god if anyone is a bus/night action swapper i will hunt you down into the depths of hell itself regardless of alignment
that shit has fucked me over so many times it's unreal

Idk

this is literally your first point stated with slightly different wording

My point here was that lynching iggish wouldn't give us that same info, whereas the first point was focusing on the benefits of lynching arelic without mentioning iggish

correct me if I'm wrong, but don't serial killers or even third party in general traditionally show as innocent in cop reports
otherwise they'd have even less chance of succeeding

I've never seen that happen personally

 

[Enderfive]

Tbh the piece of info is probably extremely over-valued in everyone's minds, it's just a tiny thing I know that adds a little cherry on top for why I think it's likely that she's mafia, but it hinges on a theory which is still yet to be confirmed

then it's pointless to hide it

right now your entire argument against arelic (as far as i've seen) is the meta argument that bird person is an antagonistic character or whatever your point regarding that has been and sorry but this is a shit argument

if it's a tiny thing, what's the harm in giving it to us? your warning about it resting on an unconfirmed theory is duly noted, although if that's the only reason you've been so reluctant to share it with us i'm going to flip a table or something because literally every theory we have is an unproven one

As I told hip before, the reason I'm not claiming isn't because I don't want to be targeted tonight, there's another reason

which i'm sure you can't share with us

I'd argue that if I do come clear I'm probably hindering my own faction more. I mean maybe not, but I'm not risking it

it's a bloody game of mafia, you have to take risks in order to get anywhere at all

imo arelic must be the person spreading birdflu seeing as they may be birdperson. if thats the case isnt that reason enough to lynch them? i cant think of any other character to actually spread this infection.

do you know how infectious diseases work

do you blame the host for spreading them

 

[Hunter]

Infected_alien8_ you can't just rate any post arguing against you funny, that's notty's gimmick