CAPITALISM MAFIA
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Infected_alien8_
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Already have been my dear
Also I agree Oak is the most suspicious claim, and he's also behaved the most suspicious
I also do not trust Notty one bit because she's vibing scum right now and she was ridiculously certain of iggish and aqua being scum. I started the Aqua train and even I had doubts since he did provide some defence but Notty ignored those. She also ignored the entire rune discussion d1, then d2 said something along the lines of "lynching rune is too easy so I'm not voting", even though I have no idea where she got that idea from. If she's not the cop then why else would she be so certain of Iggish and Aqua like that?
I'm having flashbacks to when she, aqua and fog were mafia together, it's a similar style. Less cool headed, more fire. Maybe she's just feeling confident because of her accuracy so far, and maybe she's just really on-point with vibes, but her reactions to mine and paige's ideas was far from town-telling in my eyes.
Infected_alien8_
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Ughgh maybe I'm just being paranoid about Notty, I don't feel sure in my vibes at all, epsecially since I've been so wrong this game, but I do thinks she's suspicious, but maybe not our lynch target for today at least
Nottykitten
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Maybe I got them from the fact that plenty of people were saying rune was suspicious, including aqua and the most vocal of the bunch Iggish who I was convinced of was Mafia
When was I ever 'certain' you were scum? And what does the quoted post have to do with this
Infected_alien8_
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Meanwhile I want to get Oak but Jivvi's roles haven't exactly made lots of sense to me so far so maybe his character isn't the best indicator of allignment
AAAAAAA it's so stressful literally knowing nothing
AAAAAAA it's so stressful literally knowing nothing
Infected_alien8_
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Plenty weren't though, and just because Aqua said he was suspicious, when he was being lynched, why would that make you town-read him? And why were you so convinced Iggish was Mafia? You went HAM :hkpig: on him for his weird canada statement but I still struggle to understand why that was a mafia move on his part, especially since he cleared it up just fine
No I was talking about paige. She went from wanting me dead and constantly thinking of ways I could be Mafia, to suddenly listening to me and trusting me today, meaning I'm 99% sure she investigated me last night and is our cop, and I'm guessing I'm right since she's the last person to claim and nobody else has claimed it. I also <o> her and I got that read from her from a post she said earlier on in the game.
Okay so
I'm rather uncomfortable claiming now since we've lost our doc so I'm going to try something
Either I'm Cop, and afraid of claiming because my reports are garbage and now I'm going to be killed by the mafia tomorrow. And I'm claiming cryptically in a desperate attempt to give myself a day longer to live. My reports are:
N1 - I checked Inffy but had no report, which suggests someone *cough cough Inffy* blocked me and deserved suspicion.
N2 - I checked Claire, I thought she was oddly suspicious about how she kept randomly focusing on me. She was, of course, Innocent, but this report is almost useless because she's dead.
N3 - I checked Inffy again, and this time succeeded. He's Innocent, and thus is why, as Inf put, my suspicions about him are gone overnight.
The other option is that I'm a town-sided roleblocker, the Drunk. The whole fake cop-claim above is just me trying to direct serial killer/mafia kills towards myself because I'm not as important. The real cop may choose to remain silent and live another day if their reports are garbage. I've blocked as follows:
N1 - I blocked Inffy. I mean, who else?
N2 - Even though Inffy was my main suspicion, I blocked Unu. I didn't want to stay on Inffy, even if I found him super suspicious, because there was a chance that he could be an important town PR.
N3 - I blocked Danni, because I had strong suspicions that Danni was the serial killer, and I wanted to try and stop him with my block. This was, in fact, a terrible idea. And in hindsight, I don't actually know if this would work.
Anyway Nottykitten Infected_alien8_ enjoy, sorry this took so long
I'm rather uncomfortable claiming now since we've lost our doc so I'm going to try something
Either I'm Cop, and afraid of claiming because my reports are garbage and now I'm going to be killed by the mafia tomorrow. And I'm claiming cryptically in a desperate attempt to give myself a day longer to live. My reports are:
N1 - I checked Inffy but had no report, which suggests someone *cough cough Inffy* blocked me and deserved suspicion.
N2 - I checked Claire, I thought she was oddly suspicious about how she kept randomly focusing on me. She was, of course, Innocent, but this report is almost useless because she's dead.
N3 - I checked Inffy again, and this time succeeded. He's Innocent, and thus is why, as Inf put, my suspicions about him are gone overnight.
The other option is that I'm a town-sided roleblocker, the Drunk. The whole fake cop-claim above is just me trying to direct serial killer/mafia kills towards myself because I'm not as important. The real cop may choose to remain silent and live another day if their reports are garbage. I've blocked as follows:
N1 - I blocked Inffy. I mean, who else?
N2 - Even though Inffy was my main suspicion, I blocked Unu. I didn't want to stay on Inffy, even if I found him super suspicious, because there was a chance that he could be an important town PR.
N3 - I blocked Danni, because I had strong suspicions that Danni was the serial killer, and I wanted to try and stop him with my block. This was, in fact, a terrible idea. And in hindsight, I don't actually know if this would work.
Anyway Nottykitten Infected_alien8_ enjoy, sorry this took so long
Infected_alien8_
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Vote Oak63
Most suspicious claim, been incredibly suspicious gameplay wise too
I either want to go for Oak or Notty today, maaaybe Vat or HK, but mostly Oak or Notty. I'll switch to Notty if others are more comfortable with that.
Most suspicious claim, been incredibly suspicious gameplay wise too
I either want to go for Oak or Notty today, maaaybe Vat or HK, but mostly Oak or Notty. I'll switch to Notty if others are more comfortable with that.
Infected_alien8_
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And vat's weird random defense of rune is suspicious and he keeps saying I'm third party for very little reason (or no reason at all since he's still yet to explain it) and went from strong town-reading me to me being his #1 suspect
So basically, Oak, Notty, HK and Vat are my suspects. I reckon Oak, Notty and Vat are Mafia and HK is autocrat or something.
So basically, Oak, Notty, HK and Vat are my suspects. I reckon Oak, Notty and Vat are Mafia and HK is autocrat or something.
Hey, now don't blame you being bad at the game on me. Starting a lynch on an inno the very moment a day starts is actually many times worse than me "defending" Rune. I never really strong town read you as that is hard to do in an open setup. I just thought your posts came over rather town. I don't know what you are trying to get by saying again and again that I changed my opinion on you, like that is a weird thing to do in mafia.
Paige's claim is also not suspicious at all or something *cough*, weird that you make no notice of that Inffy. She didn't tell us her name and gave a very vague claim which is easy to fake for mafia. Now I think paige is town but I'd like some a name and confirmation and not this weird shit@webpaige
Infected_alien8_
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Voting someone who you'd already determined to be suspicious and lynch-worthy the previous day is in no way suspicious.
You did strongly town-read me, and then you 180'd and suddenly wanted me to claim, which was scummy as heck. You refused to lynch rune, who had genuinely done really scummy things, because you thought he was PR, despite the fact he said several times that he wasn't. I don't see why a townie would behave this way unless they were really stubborn with their own theories, which may be true, but it also makes a lot of sense that a Mafia would try to find some way of defending Rune somehow so that they'd look innocent upon their death.
Paige did claim her name.
How is her claim "very vague"?
Infected_alien8_
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In fact I just realized, you said rune was the best lynch we had in that post, then when rune claimed Justin, even though he'd done so before, suddenly you changed your mind on both me and him, and your entire position switched. You said it was because you thought Justin was PR but then why did you only just come to that conclusion? You're very flaky this game aren't you?
You know what is suspicious? Voting for Rune the moment the day starts. If it was just for you the day would've been a disaster. I actually got quite some useful information by bringing up some good points. Of course at least some of them will not be correct but the point is that at least other things got discussed. Else we would've just lynched Rune, scum get a free townie kill and town gets no new information. Also I'd like to remind you that I never said that Rune was a bad target to lynch, I just wanted to throw around some ideas and preferably lynch someone else.
Why do I think you are 3rd party? I'm not sure but you did come over pretty town, however, the thing about 3rd parties is that they can actively hunt mafia and look town. There were some things I thought were off about you that's why I considered you being possibly autocrat or SK.
If paige already claimed name, sorry, that's my bad then, couldn't find the msg. I'd still like her to make a definite claim because if Inffy and her can be cleared it would help a lot this day.
Infected_alien8_
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How is that suspicious though? In what way is me voting someone stopping anyone else from discussing anything if they had anything useful to provide?
And yes, you did say you didn't want to lynch rune because you said you were convinced he was PR.
Ill be making several posts to share a few trains of thought of mine so stay tuned (several posts to make it keep it clear and easy to read):
Alright someone just struck me, I find it odd how TWG is not on the radar. I counted his posts and he has only made 15 replies this whole thread (out of 1321 so far), some of which were simply summarzing some info we all had or his claims. So, he has said nearly anything, but he did say something interesting yesterday:
I do think his inactivity is more likely due to being busy irl (i could be wrong) and less likely due to him trying to lurk, but i do find it tricky to have so little info on 1 of 9 players.
Alright someone just struck me, I find it odd how TWG is not on the radar. I counted his posts and he has only made 15 replies this whole thread (out of 1321 so far), some of which were simply summarzing some info we all had or his claims. So, he has said nearly anything, but he did say something interesting yesterday:
Something that nobody seems to have commented on. I guess some might want to not go into it, afraid TWG will say something that could harm him (incase he is valuable to town), but it is rather sketchy. If he deems it the smartest to not reveal anything further that is okay, but it is dangerous to keep info hidden that could benefit town, at this stage of the game.
I do think his inactivity is more likely due to being busy irl (i could be wrong) and less likely due to him trying to lurk, but i do find it tricky to have so little info on 1 of 9 players.
Alright, post nr 2.
I want to share my reads on people in this game:
- Inffy: well i've discusses inffy quite a bit already, i do find him suspicious, it personally think i've mentioned him and reasons for why i find him suspcious in numerous posts before. He has done some dodgy things, and I find his playstyle to fit my image of him playing as scum quite well (i guess that is very subjective, but worth mentioning nonetheless). \
-Notty: I think i described notty's playstyle this game as very calm and to the point once before like on day 1 (when comparing her to iggy) and imo that still fits quite well. Ofcourse something that got mentioned was that she might have pushed heavily on iggish and aqua to distance herself from them while being scum, but I find it more likely that she is town and her reads are correct.
-Vatu: i have a minor theory on vatu which i will go into in the next post, but i have some things to say about reads as well. I dont necessarily read him as town, but def not as scum so far. I agreed with a couple of things he said when we were all discussing rune, but he also did some more sketchy stuff. He kinda made a full turn around after his first post yesterday, where he said he suspected inffy to probably be 3rd party (iirc). I did find it a little bit odd, but it was also a nice way to catch inffy off-guard.
-Paige: i also have a thing included in the next post about paige. One thing i found suspcious about her was the way she seemed to push on Danni yesterday, although i do remember him making some weird posts along the day (dont quote me on this). But then your claim today (besides the name) made me town read you quite a bit, because it feels like a smart way to claim without giving away too much info right away, but still being useful. Also you revealed you were very suspicious of danni being possible serial killer, which would make clear why you pressured danni yesterday.
-TWG/ERIK: besides last post and the theory in my next post i dont have too much read on them. They arent very active.
-Oak: I don't have too much of a read on oak either, but he is getting pressured by Inffy, which could mean i'm missing something that inffy is seeing, or it would fit into the picture of inf being scum and going after townies.
I want to share my reads on people in this game:
- Inffy: well i've discusses inffy quite a bit already, i do find him suspicious, it personally think i've mentioned him and reasons for why i find him suspcious in numerous posts before. He has done some dodgy things, and I find his playstyle to fit my image of him playing as scum quite well (i guess that is very subjective, but worth mentioning nonetheless). \
-Notty: I think i described notty's playstyle this game as very calm and to the point once before like on day 1 (when comparing her to iggy) and imo that still fits quite well. Ofcourse something that got mentioned was that she might have pushed heavily on iggish and aqua to distance herself from them while being scum, but I find it more likely that she is town and her reads are correct.
-Vatu: i have a minor theory on vatu which i will go into in the next post, but i have some things to say about reads as well. I dont necessarily read him as town, but def not as scum so far. I agreed with a couple of things he said when we were all discussing rune, but he also did some more sketchy stuff. He kinda made a full turn around after his first post yesterday, where he said he suspected inffy to probably be 3rd party (iirc). I did find it a little bit odd, but it was also a nice way to catch inffy off-guard.
-Paige: i also have a thing included in the next post about paige. One thing i found suspcious about her was the way she seemed to push on Danni yesterday, although i do remember him making some weird posts along the day (dont quote me on this). But then your claim today (besides the name) made me town read you quite a bit, because it feels like a smart way to claim without giving away too much info right away, but still being useful. Also you revealed you were very suspicious of danni being possible serial killer, which would make clear why you pressured danni yesterday.
-TWG/ERIK: besides last post and the theory in my next post i dont have too much read on them. They arent very active.
-Oak: I don't have too much of a read on oak either, but he is getting pressured by Inffy, which could mean i'm missing something that inffy is seeing, or it would fit into the picture of inf being scum and going after townies.
post nr3, this is sorta a far-fetched theory that has progressed along the way and has to deal with politicians.
- Right now mafia were Trump and Hillary, two politicians who ran for their countries latests presidency (also both of them were subjectively quite controverse in some ways). So one of my theories was that possible all the latest politicians that were running for or became president/premier/prime minister could be in the mafia team. Since Rune was Trudeau and flipepd town this theory got a bit of a hit, so I added the requirement that they had to be controverse to a large group of people. This would make Theresa May (Vatu) quite suspicious (although my reads didnt come to same conclusion).
-After this (and all Australians claimed I started looking into who their politicians were, since i knew none of them. The claims were: Malcom Turnbull (current prime minister), who was a townie in game and hence weakening my first version of the theory even more, and still alive Julia Gillard (Erik), Kevin Rudd (TWG) and Pauline Hanson (Paige). Something new struck me, when looking at prime ministers of Australia from current backwards there are/were: Malcom Turnbull, Tony Abbot, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd. While three of the four latest prime ministers are in, Tony Abott the previous prime minister (who lost the election of 2015 to Malcom Turnbull) is not in the game. Instead we got this weird lady Pauline Hanson, claimed by Paige. This intrigued me since, with Malcolm dead as a townie, Tony Abott would fit the image of mafia nicely imo, since he lost the latest election similair to Hillary. I also decided to look into Pauline Hanson a bit more and found out that she has been anti-immigration and anti-multiculturalism in the past, which in my eyes fits nicely together with Trump and Theresa May. This created two scenarios where Paige could be suspicious. Then again even more so than with Vatu, this does not agree with my reads on Paige at all.
-Lastly going along with the whole mafia = controverse politicians idea Ajit Pai would fit in there. But this one is not that strong, since arguably there are more politicians in this game that can be seen as controverse.
TL;DR:
Theresa May would fit nicely in the row of mafia who died so far, but my read on Vatu doesnt match. There are 2 scenarios which make Paige's claim suspicious, but again it doesnt agree with my read. Ajit Pai could fit in with Trump and Theresa May as arguably seen as controverse to a lot of people. It has been a long train of thought so feel free to ask about the theory if things are unclear/if you disagree with something.
PS: Can I use the word controverse as I did (as in grammatically)? please tell me if I used it wrongly.
- Right now mafia were Trump and Hillary, two politicians who ran for their countries latests presidency (also both of them were subjectively quite controverse in some ways). So one of my theories was that possible all the latest politicians that were running for or became president/premier/prime minister could be in the mafia team. Since Rune was Trudeau and flipepd town this theory got a bit of a hit, so I added the requirement that they had to be controverse to a large group of people. This would make Theresa May (Vatu) quite suspicious (although my reads didnt come to same conclusion).
-After this (and all Australians claimed I started looking into who their politicians were, since i knew none of them. The claims were: Malcom Turnbull (current prime minister), who was a townie in game and hence weakening my first version of the theory even more, and still alive Julia Gillard (Erik), Kevin Rudd (TWG) and Pauline Hanson (Paige). Something new struck me, when looking at prime ministers of Australia from current backwards there are/were: Malcom Turnbull, Tony Abbot, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd. While three of the four latest prime ministers are in, Tony Abott the previous prime minister (who lost the election of 2015 to Malcom Turnbull) is not in the game. Instead we got this weird lady Pauline Hanson, claimed by Paige. This intrigued me since, with Malcolm dead as a townie, Tony Abott would fit the image of mafia nicely imo, since he lost the latest election similair to Hillary. I also decided to look into Pauline Hanson a bit more and found out that she has been anti-immigration and anti-multiculturalism in the past, which in my eyes fits nicely together with Trump and Theresa May. This created two scenarios where Paige could be suspicious. Then again even more so than with Vatu, this does not agree with my reads on Paige at all.
-Lastly going along with the whole mafia = controverse politicians idea Ajit Pai would fit in there. But this one is not that strong, since arguably there are more politicians in this game that can be seen as controverse.
TL;DR:
Theresa May would fit nicely in the row of mafia who died so far, but my read on Vatu doesnt match. There are 2 scenarios which make Paige's claim suspicious, but again it doesnt agree with my read. Ajit Pai could fit in with Trump and Theresa May as arguably seen as controverse to a lot of people. It has been a long train of thought so feel free to ask about the theory if things are unclear/if you disagree with something.
PS: Can I use the word controverse as I did (as in grammatically)? please tell me if I used it wrongly.