Republic - Completed

[Aqua]

Who told you that switching to autocracy day 1 was a bad idea

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Yeah, maybe I was useless

Me, Jivvi, Hunter etc.

 

[Prizyms]

since the rev also wins if mafia wins and they are alive.

This couldn't be further from the truth. Rev loses along with conformists if dissenters equal or outnumber all other factions.

This game was explicitly designed to force rev into playing both anti-conformist and anti-dissenter, since I hate setups where SK can get a free win by sitting in the background being bulletproof and jointing with mafia.

 

[Jivvi]

2 actions for 2 kills is worth it

watcher doesnt see visitors if target dies so no they cant

it's actually 3-4 people used for 2 kills but the second point is valid




anyway can we please all share our proposed plans

mine is we elect my current votes (fali inf me aqua) so that we can kill inf tomorrow

ender kills notty, watcher watches ender

not sure how tracker can be orchestrated but preferably also centred on ender

monitor monitors scrable (or whoever, we just have to know who they're targeting today in case they die. in fact, it's probably good for others to decide so you know i'm not trying to get them onto the granny)

blocker should also be pre-organised so if they die we have a little bit of info

monitor, paranoid and whistleblower do not claim under any circumstances



keep in mind i threw this in like 30 seconds as a starting point cause it would be really great if we could actually sort out where we go from here

 

[HKCaper]

there was no granny kill last night

lets look at what we know:
- Ltin got killed by dictator:
- Caffe got killed by ender: (inb4 ender is the granny)
- Hunter & Velz died, but they had no nightaction so they couldnt have died to the granny

yay look at me contributing with info that everyone had so therefore not contributing at all but pretending to by sharing info that was already known.

 

[HKCaper]

Seize control of the state through majority rule by equaling or outnumbering all other factions.

or surviving to the final day.

so if dessenters outnumber all other factions, but the rev is still alive:
- the game isnt over yet?
- the rev magically dies?

 

[Aqua]

ender kills notty, watcher watches ender

Notty is switched with granny, ender dies. Nobody visits ender.

in the off chance notty is rev we should block her with council and kill her because it eliminates a potential antitown nk from the game. And if not, just eliminates a mafia from the game.

This gives chance for a cc to inf to come forward and since he isn't rev his night pr is less damaging to town as it isn't a straight up nk.

 

[Jivvi]

so if dessenters outnumber all other factions, but the rev is still alive:
- the game isnt over yet?
- the rev magically dies?

if there's one mafia it'd be a draw otherwise rev would lose since there's no way they can win vs multiple mafia

 

[HKCaper]

if there's one mafia it'd be a draw otherwise rev would lose since there's no way they can win vs multiple mafia

but it SAYS

the rev wins if it survives to the final day

 

[Jivvi]

in the off chance notty is rev we should block her with council and kill her because it eliminates a potential antitown nk from the game. And if not, just eliminates a mafia from the game.

i dont think is notty is rev. there's no reason for anyone to claim rev, and since priz just said rev can't joint with anyone, i assume the rev claiming would possibly even be considered a gamethrow

 

[Jivvi]

but it SAYS

the rev wins if it survives to the final day

oh right so they'd win in a 2-player scenario, otherwise they'd lose cause once they're the last one mafia knows who they are

 

[Aqua]

i dont think is notty is rev. there's no reason for anyone to claim rev, and since priz just said rev can't joint with anyone, i assume the rev claiming would possibly even be considered a gamethrow

Eitherway still think she's a higher lynch priority than inf. We can lynch inf, just tomorrow.

 

[HKCaper]

oh right so they'd win in a 2-player scenario, otherwise they'd lose cause once they're the last one mafia knows who they are

but what if there are say 3 townies, 5 dessenters and the rev?

 

[77thShad]

so if dessenters outnumber all other factions, but the rev is still alive:
- the game isnt over yet?
- the rev magically dies?

The way I perceived it is if dissenters outnumber the other factions and the rev is still alive, then the game ends but since the rev lasted till the end only the rev wins?

 

[HKCaper]

The way I perceived it is if dissenters outnumber the other factions and the rev is still alive, then the game ends but since the rev lasted till the end only the rev wins?

That'd be even more OP lol, then it would basically be an autocrat on top of everything it can do

 

[77thShad]

That'd be even more OP lol, then it would basically be an autocrat on top of everything it can do

Yeah now that I said it out loud, it does seem a bit strange lol.

 

[Enderfive]

Notty is definitely antitown, I suspect mafia but she claims rev (eitherway bad), so trapping them in the council would have prevented an antitown night action and meant we would be lynching them now.

the council members who vote to subpoena are the ones who go to court

notty wouldn't have been in the court no matter what happened, because she wouldn't have voted to subpoena

 

[Jivvi]

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cant remember if it lets me tag this many people in one post but can everyone confirm these few things

i am not the tracker (currently claimed by aqua)

i am not the subversive (currently claimed by inf)

i am not poisoned


none apply to me

 

[Mooglie]

i am not the tracker (currently claimed by aqua)
x
i am not the subversive (currently claimed by inf)
x
i am not poisoned
x

am i a slut

 

[Enderfive]

none apply to me

i'll assume the negative used here was an error

 

[Comp]

Is there downside at this point in doing a mass claim then after the night? I'm ok with doing so but want to hear any downsides first
It seems like it could be useful to see if there are any CCs to Inf/Aqua/whoever

 

[Prizyms]

so if dessenters outnumber all other factions, but the rev is still alive:

Dissenters win.

Rev's 'last day' condition refers to 1-1-1 faction equality, or rev + 1 other.

 

[Jivvi]

i'll assume the negative used here was an error

yeah. i'm not poisoned and not ccing anyone

 

[Aqua]

the council members who vote to subpoena are the ones who go to court

notty wouldn't have been in the court no matter what happened, because she wouldn't have voted to subpoena

Shit, good point.

 

[Jivvi]

Is there downside at this point in doing a mass claim then after the night? I'm ok with doing so but want to hear any downsides first
It seems like it could be useful to see if there are any CCs to Inf/Aqua/whoever

mostly just outing the whistleblower i think

 

[Aqua]

i am not the tracker (currently claimed by aqua)
i am not the tracker
i am not the subversive (currently claimed by inf)
i am the subversive
i am not poisoned
i might be poisoned