Republic - Completed

[Infected_alien8_]

The number of targets for maf/rev goes down. Makes town lose exponentially faster.

If we're unlucky yes

Still better than democracy

 

[Danni122112]

OOH we have to lynch one of the council members tomorrow?

Yah.

It goes like this.
Elect 5/4/3 people to council
Vote for calling in a player for a subpoena.
The three players that voted for the subpoena will be in a hearing with player.
At the end of the hearing, the players allinment is revealed.

UNLESS they chose to not speak for the entirety of the next day, then their alignment is delayed by one day.

At the next day, everyone has to vote to lynch one of the council members. I am not sure if this can be no lynched or go to autocracy.

Prizyms is this breakdown correct?

 

[Danni122112]

Yeah I don't understand why she'd claim rev as rev which is the only thing holding me back from fully buying into it

I'll await her response to me asking why she claimed

Please don’t be convinced by her bullsgit when it comes.

 

[Aqua]

If we're unlucky yes

Still better than democracy

Now I'd say they're about the same. Day 1? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

By going autocracy just once, we are basically fucked with democracy, cuz we can only afford to elect 1 non-town

 

[Aqua]

By going autocracy just once, we are basically fucked with democracy, cuz we can only afford to elect 1 non-town

But in this case it's a confirmed anti town, where as if we go autocracy we could fuck ourselves again. Democracy means invincibility for the council members.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

But in this case it's a confirmed anti town, where as if we go autocracy we could fuck ourselves again. Democracy means invincibility for the council members.

We'd still be able to lynch notty in an autocracy

we'd also get an extra kill, which we kind of need to stand a chance

 

[Aqua]

We'd still be able to lynch notty in an autocracy

we'd also get an extra kill, which we kind of need to stand a chance

But we lack the safety net and there's now a 1/4 of rev/maf killing the dictator and limiting us even more.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

But we lack the safety net and there's now a 1/4 of rev/maf killing the dictator and limiting us even more.

what safety net

and yes, the autocracy plan relies on us being fortunate enough so that dictator isn't killed, which is 1/4 or 1/5, but democracy relied on us killing the poisoner early, which is much less chance

 

[Faliara]

OOH we have to lynch one of the council members tomorrow?

yes
one of them is gonna get murdered
please unelect at least one of them and put in notty or inf instead

 

[Aqua]

We'd still be able to lynch notty in an autocracy

we'd also get an extra kill, which we kind of need to stand a chance

If you assume rev and maf both target the 4 reps it's a 7/16 chance that dictator dies which is 43.75% of happen

 

[Infected_alien8_]

yes
one of them is gonna get murdered
please unelect at least one of them and put in notty or inf instead

why me?

I feel like everyone's ignoring the fact that I've claimed a PR and am yet to be contested and only fog/112 haven't confirmed/denied it

 

[Infected_alien8_]

If you assume rev and maf both target the 4 reps it's a 7/16 chance that dictator dies which is 43.75% of happen

Pretty sure that's wrong + assumes they can't target the same person, which they can

 

[Aqua]

what safety net

The immunity for the council members + the 0 chance of our council being decreased further

 

[Aqua]

Pretty sure that's wrong + assumes they can't target the same person, which they can

it does assume that you moron, if it didn't it would be a 50%

 

[Faliara]

The immunity for the council members + the 0 chance of our council being decreased further

there's immunity for council members?

 

[Aqua]

Pretty sure that's wrong + assumes they can't target the same person, which they can

Also that's 43.75% of them randomly choosing people. If they are smart and can make an educated guess it's even higher.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

The immunity for the council members + the 0 chance of our council being decreased further

democracy would only work if we killed/stopped poisoner though since otherwise Mafia would have too many kills for us to realistically handle, so even though autocracy lost us seats, it was better to risk that + keep pushing with autocracy than to go democracy at any point

I mean I feel like this discussion is kind of pointless since it's just about what choices we already made but still I don't think democracy was ever a good idea unless we could garuntee we'd get the poisoner somehow

The chances of us finding the poisoner, 1 role out of 26, is much smaller than the chances of the mafia/rev not killing our dictator every time

 

[Aqua]

there's immunity for council members?

In democracy, yes.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

In democracy, yes.

What do you mean by immunity

 

[Aqua]

The chances of us finding the poisoner, 1 role out of 26, is much smaller than the chances of the mafia/rev not killing our dictator every time

And the chance of them finding the dictator is a 1/5 your point is meaningless.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

And the chance of them finding the dictator is a 1/5 your point is meaningless.

Better chances than relying on finding the poisoner

 

[Aqua]

What do you mean by immunity

Am I going insane or do the elected reps not get immunity to nightkills? I'm sure I read that but I can't find it.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Am I going insane or do the elected reps not get immunity to nightkills? I'm sure I read that but I can't find it.

The sub'd player isn't able to be nightkilled, the representatives, including the council members, can be nightkilled

 

[Faliara]

In democracy, yes.

aqua
no we don't

if council members had immunity, then we would have used that as an argument to not dissolve the council
only a player issued a subpoena is granted immunity