Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

[Alisha]

Infected_Alien8_ - Vatumok [L-6]
Vatumok - HKCaper [L-6]
Alisha - Infected_Alien8_, Aqua, HKCaper, Unusual_Dood, Alisha [L-2]
Aqua - Fog [L-6]
BetaPanda - sessybessy [L-6]

shoutout to hk and sessy for being correct day 0 even tho hk had 2 votes

wow this really takes me back to the good old days

thanks for the nostalgia

 

[Aqua]

inf said stranger told him no he can't quote one word

i already said stranger said no

Oh missed it my bad

Eitherway my thought process was that consequences has been presented already this game under the sinner role of "negative consequences" - which probably explained my assumption that your role removed them when I first read it. If that was the word used it seems stranger (haHAA) phraseology than explaining it out right or at the very least explaining it as "ALL consequences".

Anyway honestly I think if it had just been negative consequences your role would have been far more believable, however, it seems far too unlikely that you would hit a "Mafia sinner" assuming they exist for it to be useful for town - especially when no information can be drawn from it like my role.

It would however fit far more appropriately as a mafia ability to target townies due to it being a wider pool. It could also make sense why you used the word consequences because you subconsciously pulled it from your role description.

All of this is, of course posturing and not solid evidence, so I won't vote you in order to preserve my CONSISTENCY. But if Vat flips town I want the rest of town to fully consider your lynch tomorrow.

 

[Aqua]

shoutout to hk and sessy for being correct day 0 even tho hk had 2 votes

Excuse me I accused beta before anyone else did day 0 - don't steal my thunder inconsistent inffy

 

[Aqua]

explaining it out right or at the very least explaining it as "ALL consequences".

...in your role dm

 

[Aqua]

to further support my posturing of phraseology - look at Poor Sinners, it is a consistent phrase that is used consistently in their role name, in the game description and in my role dm.

I believe that this "negative consequences" is a similar coined phrase so to use a similar phrase without giving it proper /separation/ or /differentiation/ (can't think of the right word) seems weirdly inconsistent.

So all in all I'm susp of inf

 

[HKCaper]

bearing in mind what i said about vat/me getting confirmed tomorrow (well my abilities for me at least) are you open to switching to UNU?

i'll sleep on it

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Oh missed it my bad

Eitherway my thought process was that consequences has been presented already this game under the sinner role of "negative consequences" - which probably explained my assumption that your role removed them when I first read it. If that was the word used it seems stranger (haHAA) phraseology than explaining it out right or at the very least explaining it as "ALL consequences".

Anyway honestly I think if it had just been negative consequences your role would have been far more believable, however, it seems far too unlikely that you would hit a "Mafia sinner" assuming they exist for it to be useful for town - especially when no information can be drawn from it like my role.

It would however fit far more appropriately as a mafia ability to target townies due to it being a wider pool. It could also make sense why you used the word consequences because you subconsciously pulled it from your role description.

All of this is, of course posturing and not solid evidence, so I won't vote you in order to preserve my CONSISTENCY. But if Vat flips town I want the rest of town to fully consider your lynch tomorrow.

im confused

if you think the word 'consequences' refers to the negative consequences for town, why would that be a scum role

but i mean, to my mind, consequences is the main word someone would use to say "the effects of it"

for sinners theyre warned about the "unforeseen consequences" there might be

that doesnt suddenly mean that if stranger talks about consequences of the deal she's referring to unforeseen ones that sinners were warned about

not saying if stranger used the word or not, just saying

 

[Aqua]

i'll sleep on it

Inf will not be proven - do not buy it.

 

[Alisha]

to further support my posturing of phraseology - look at Poor Sinners, it is a consistent phrase that is used consistently in their role name, in the game description and in my role dm.

I believe that this "negative consequences" is a similar coined phrase so to use a similar phrase without giving it proper /separation/ or /differentiation/ (can't think of the right word) seems weirdly inconsistent.

So all in all I'm susp of inf

finally my incoherent ranting pays off

 

[Aqua]

im confused

if you think the word 'consequences' refers to the negative consequences for town, why would that be a scum role

but i mean, to my mind, consequences is the main word someone would use to say "the effects of it"

for sinners theyre warned about the "unforeseen consequences" there might be

that doesnt suddenly mean that if stranger talks about consequences of the deal she's referring to unforeseen ones that sinners were warned about

not saying if stranger used the word or not, just saying

Sorry "Unforseen consequences" not negative my bad, I misremembered the phrase.

my point is consequences seems too ambiguous to be used when I compare it to what we know of the phraseology in this game. Again this is purely posturing but it is another consistent trend within Strangers writing style

 

[Aqua]

finally my incoherent ranting pays off

it was very consistent incoherent ranting after all

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Sorry "Unforseen consequences" not negative my bad, I misremembered the phrase.

my point is consequences seems too ambiguous to be used when I compare it to what we know of the phraseology in this game. Again this is purely posturing but it is another consistent trend within Strangers writing style

i mean, youre comparing it to a role name, ofc thats a 'phrase' thats mentioned and copied throughout the game

this isnt a role name or something, its just stranger saying "effects of the deal"

if she says "be careful because even though you know youll get an ability, there might be unforeseen effects of the deal that youre not privy to" to people who need to be warned about it, but then says "you'll undo the effects of the deal" then thats not inconsistent phrasing to me thats just english

 

[Infected_alien8_]

i mean, youre comparing it to a role name, ofc thats a 'phrase' thats mentioned and copied throughout the game

this isnt a role name or something, its just stranger saying "effects of the deal"

if she says "be careful because even though you know youll get an ability, there might be unforeseen effects of the deal that youre not privy to" to people who need to be warned about it, but then says "you'll undo the effects of the deal" then thats not inconsistent phrasing to me thats just english

like, assuming the ability they get is also an 'effect', since to my mind it is

 

[Aqua]

i mean, youre comparing it to a role name, ofc thats a 'phrase' thats mentioned and copied throughout the game

this isnt a role name or something, its just stranger saying "effects of the deal"

if she says "be careful because even though you know youll get an ability, there might be unforeseen effects of the deal that youre not privy to" to people who need to be warned about it, but then says "you'll undo the effects of the deal" then thats not inconsistent phrasing to me thats just english

So you don't think the phrase "unforseen circumstances" will be reiterated in mafia role dm's etc?

and also sure, but from comparing my role dm and fog's, I doubt your role dm will be written like that.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

So you don't think the phrase "unforseen circumstances" will be reiterated in mafia role dm's etc?

i have no clue, but not necessarily

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Aqua why are you wanting to lynch vat instead of UNU when you can investigate vat but not UNU?

 

[Stranger from Myst Island]

Votecount 5: Give Me Title Ideas Plz​

Good Skele - Unusual_Dood [L-5]
Unusual_Dood - Infected_Alien8_, Alisha [L-4]
Vatumok - Good Skele, HK Caper, Aqua [L-3]
TheWeakGuy48_ - Vatumok [L-5]

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch and 5 votes to no lynch. If nobody reaches a majority of votes by the end of the day, nobody will be lynched.

Day 2 Deadline

 

[Infected_alien8_]

oh hey its pairjax's birthday

remember him

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Timdood3 how do you feel about voting UNU too now that youre here

 

[Infected_alien8_]

sorry for the tag idk why i tagged you when youre probs catching up

 

[Timdood3]

just saying, if you think its definitely me or vat (which im not sure why you think that? why do you think that?) you'll get that answer tomorrow anyways. only 1 of aqua or tim can die tonight, and realistically maf will be blocking hk, so either tim will be alive to report whether my role is legit or not, or aqua will be alive to report on vat's alignment

i still think getting UNU is better today

But your role could easily belong to scum, that's the point I was trying to make before. I don't think it's unreasonable that you could remove a sinner's ability- I think it's unreasonable that that ability belong to town.

Timdood3 how do you feel about voting UNU too now that youre here

I feel like I want to vote you.

Inf proving his ability tonight won't confirm his alignment in any meaningful way and I would very much like to not lose my ability.
After mulling for about a day, I'm finally going to throw my vote down.

Vote Infected_Alien8

Plus his flip will give us valuable information on the setup as a whole since, to reiterate, I do not believe his claim is fully truthful.
(And aqua if you lynch inf you get to find out about the word consequence.)

 

[Alisha]

But your role could easily belong to scum, that's the point I was trying to make before. I don't think it's unreasonable that you could remove a sinner's ability- I think it's unreasonable that that ability belong to town.

I feel like I want to vote you.

Inf proving his ability tonight won't confirm his alignment in any meaningful way and I would very much like to not lose my ability.
After mulling for about a day, I'm finally going to throw my vote down.

Vote Infected_Alien8

Plus his flip will give us valuable information on the setup as a whole since, to reiterate, I do not believe his claim is fully truthful.
(And aqua if you lynch inf you get to find out about the word consequence.)

see i agree with this

 

[Alisha]

my dilemma is doing it today or tomorrow if hes wrong about unu

 

[Timdood3]

my dilemma is doing it today or tomorrow if hes wrong about unu

If we lynch inf today i get to keep my ability.

 

[Alisha]

If we lynch inf today i get to keep my ability.

huh come to think of it we can interpret this as inf saying hes going to get rid of your ability or 'item' in public

HE'S A PURIFIER OMG

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