XP/Mob grinders - Clarification

[Malcovent]

Right, this has apparently slipped beneath my nose so i'm going to spend the week checking out areas/clamping down upon it - if you've used the system, please fess up and we'll do our best to compensate you for any enchanted items.


Any mob/xp grinder allowing you to kill them without directly fighting - e.g, taking damage, is considered illegal

Q:Why?
Two reasons, one is overpowered weapons - e.g, I just caught someone with a power V flame I bow (they weren't aware it's illegal so, i'm not overly angry) - The point is that, at matildas peak - we could produce 30-50 of these items per day, meaning that we could essentially onehit anyone we fought. It's a seriously unbalanced system that stifles pvp and makes it far less enjoyable for new players.

The other is spawnrates. If 20 mobs are spawning at location A, chances are only 5 maybe spawn at location B, and then 0 at location C - we all share the same amount of spawns, so if someone's 'hogging' all the spawns by having three active mobspawners, each with ten mobs in - everyone else gets less mobs and the server has to handle a little more lag.

If you have a mob spawner, and we catch it - and you have not fessed up/actively use it - we will consider a temporary albeit lengthy ban or item fine.

Thankyou.

 

[Danni122112]

can U stand right beside a spawner and kill zombs as they spawn?

 

[Inon]

I did have 2 practically next to each other, I only ever used one at a time and killed them manually (torching the other one off) although they've both been destroyed by someone now.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

A question that popped up before: Can the system damage the zombies before you fight them? E.G. Zombie falls 7 blocks before you finish it off.

 

[Malcovent]

A question that popped up before: Can the system damage the zombies before you fight them? E.G. Zombie falls 7 blocks before you finish it off.

@Defiant - No - for the first reason (making it too easy to get xp) - when the next minecraft update is released, and xp can be gained from mining, we'll revisit this rule and possibly edit it.

@Danni - yes, as long as you aren't protected other than armour/a weapon, (meaning no barriers between you and the enemy, etc.)

Inon - you could always report it to staff if you like and we'll check who removed them :3?

 

[Shinyshark]

can U stand right beside a spawner and kill zombs as they spawn?

Just to clarify against Malcovent 's statement. Your spawner is illegal as the zombies can, in no way, hit you unless you practicly hug the wall.

 

[Danni122112]

Just to clarify against Malcovent 's statement. Your spawner is illegal as the zombies can, in no way, hit you unless you practicly hug the wall.

dont think so but i will fix it if its illegal. I thought it was legal sry if its not.

 

[Refresh100]

I have an egg producer that harvests eggs from about 11 or so chickens in a pit with flowing water. Is this legal?

 

[Defiant_Blob]

I have an egg producer that harvests eggs from about 11 or so chickens in a pit with flowing water. Is this legal?

About 10 animals are fine. That's how much I usually look for when an overly large farm is reported to me.

 

[Refresh100]

About 10 animals are fine. That's how much I usually look for when an overly large farm is reported to me.

Alright, just had to be double positively sure.

 

[HarmakAnna]

Would it be fine to use barriers to kill one or two mobs, knowing you will take them down afterwards? By that, I mean while exploring caves, not spawners.

 

[chris360kss]

Would it be fine to use barriers to kill one or two mobs, knowing you will take them down afterwards? By that, I mean while exploring caves, not spawners.

Yes, this is fine.

 

[Danni122112]

Can U make mob grinders out of naturally spawning mobs? Dark room etc.

 

[Duffie]

I have a chicken farm in my house, but as it was clarified above, it's pretty much legal.

I don't have 10 chickens, as I have less.

I also have a small farm, with even less amount than the chickens, filled with cows... And possibly sheep/pigs. Not so sure about that, haven't been on in a while.

 

[chris360kss]

Can U make mob grinders out of naturally spawning mobs? Dark room etc.

No.

 

[Duffie]

I feel like mod grinders/spawners should be fine, but then again, I'm not one to abuse the power of levels for PvP.

I just like the feeling of having overpowered gear for the safety and wellbeing of myself, in case of monsters and/or other players.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

I feel like mod grinders/spawners should be fine, but then again, I'm not one to abuse the power of levels for PvP.

I just like the feeling of having overpowered gear for the safety and wellbeing of myself, in case of monsters and/or other players.

It's mostly because players are walking around with pretty much Godswords that kill anyone in 2 or 3 hits.

 

[K1ngHoward]

It's mostly because players are walking around with pretty much Godswords that kill anyone in 2 or 3 hits.

It is going to get worse in 1.3 :/ jeb made acquiring levels easier and max level for enchantment tables is 30 :/

The first 16 levels are linear, while level 17+ require more points per level to the maximum level of 30 (although one can still have more than 30 XP levels to spend).

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features

 

[Inon]

It is going to get worse in 1.3 :/ jeb made acquiring levels easier and max level for enchantment tables is 30 :/


http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features

then at least players can have a chance of getting a decent enchantment without having to grind quite as much

 

[cheatyface]

Experience will be easier, that brings the level up for everyone. Mob grinders make other players not have mobs to kill, that brings the level down for all but a few. Hence, the imbalance. I don't see the problem getting worse with the patch, if anything it may lessen.

Also, mal, I have 2 spots that I'd like to show you to make sure what I'm doing is legal, if ever I get on while you are. Or can I show any admin and/or op?

 

[Razinao]

This will be shot down, but

You can use mods to limit peoples enchantments to, say, Protection II.

 

[Danni122112]

And still have efficiency 4 etc. Available?

 

[hihihilolHI]

Can someone clarify, is having a dark room underground, just for the purpose of having a few extra mobs to kill, without barriers so they can hit you, legal?

 

[Shinyshark]

Can someone clarify, is having a dark room underground, just for the purpose of having a few extra mobs to kill, without barriers so they can hit you, legal?

As long as the mobs can hit you, it's fine. You can have 500 spawners and the mobs mauling you and it would still be legal as long as they can maul you.