Survivor Cephalonia

[JohnOgozalek]

JohnOgozalek So what are you trying to say with "the tribal lines jut really don't matter" ?

Well, you have loyalty to your tribe, you have friends and such in your tribe; but what I'm trying to say, is that one of the many physiological aspects of the actual game of Survivor, is, well, here's an example: sometime you want to vote off some jerk on your team. However, hes completely ripped, incredibly strong, and carries your team. So without him, you'll keep losing challenges and having to go to tribal council, so you'll lose players, and eventual your tribe will die out.

See, in a game where you can't actually go out into the real world and compete and survive like in a forum game, your really stuck with players as they are. I mean, if we had challenges, and Dio was, Idk, very strong, or great at solving puzzles (he might be, not sure), the alliance might want him, he would be a good asset, so in this game you don't have to worry about your tribe as much, you don't REALLY need to gather food to survive, or compete in grueling challenges, so tribes aren't as...centered. That quote is saying, that even though your in a specific tribe, just based on the current game going on (next season, who knows, there might not be a large alliance, and the tribes will stick more closely together), the tribes have somewhat blended, you've proven that by wanting to stick with our alliance (<3), so I'm trying to tell Hockey, that his idea that he must seclude himself and stay in his own tribe, isn't really logical. Tribal lines matter, but not to the point were you MUST stay in your tribe; especially this season.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

mix/miks/

Verb:
Combine or put together to form one substance or mass.


He completely changed the teams. Not merging any tribes the never got combined. We have people in every tribe the are not part of the alliance. Now you are just getting scared that you don't have the alliance to keep you safe and they will not matter anymore.

 

[Solis22]

Hockeyfan1852 That's cute. You are not dumb hockey. You know EXACTLY what Vati and John told us. Mixed, Changed , Combine.... IT DOESNT MATTER. The point was that we needed to stay strong no matter what. Something YOU didn't do.

And I am not scared buddy. Even if I go home I want EVERYONE to know how NOT trustworthy you are. And how easy you can break promises.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Well, you have loyalty to your tribe, you have friends and such in your tribe; but what I'm trying to say, is that one of the many physiological aspects of the actual game of Survivor, is, well, here's an example: sometime you want to vote off some jerk on your team. However, hes completely ripped, incredibly strong, and carries your team. So without him, you'll keep losing challenges and having to go to tribal council, so you'll lose players, and eventual your tribe will die out.

See, in a game where you can't actually go out into the real world and compete and survive like in a forum game, your really stuck with players as they are. I mean, if we had challenges, and Dio was, Idk, very strong, or great at solving puzzles (he might be, not sure), the alliance might want him, he would be a good asset, so in this game you don't have to worry about your tribe as much, you don't REALLY need to gather food to survive, or compete in grueling challenges, so tribes aren't as...centered. That quote is saying, that even though your in a specific tribe, just based on the current game going on (next season, who knows, there might not be a large alliance, and the tribes will stick more closely together), the tribes have somewhat blended, you've proven that by wanting to stick with our alliance (<3), so I'm trying to tell Hockey, that his idea that he must seclude himself and stay in his own tribe, isn't really logical. Tribal lines matter, but not to the point were you MUST stay in your tribe; especially this season.

John the other tribes don't matter anymore only your tribe will send you out. You don't need your alliance anymore. You need to work together with your clan and not worry about what the other tribes are doing. The other tribes no longer play a factor in you getting voted out anymore.

 

[JohnOgozalek]

mix/miks/

Verb:
Combine or put together to form one substance or mass.


He completely changed the teams. Not merging any tribes the never got combined. We have people in every tribe the are not part of the alliance. Now you are just getting scared that you don't have the alliance to keep you safe and they will not matter anymore.

Hockey, your great, your the best, but just listen quickly. EVERYONE in the alliance is still looking after each other. We're still like, uh, operatives, agents. The thing is, if we stay together as it is now, we'll all make the final, 11. That means only one of us will leave before we all make the jury. So basically, you make the jury in the alliance.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Hockeyfan1852 That's cute. You are not dumb hockey. You know EXACTLY what Vati and John told us. Mixed, Changed , Combine.... IT DOESNT MATTER. The point was that we needed to stay strong no matter what. Something YOU didn't do.

And I am not scared buddy. Even if I go home I want EVERYONE to know how NOT trustworthy you are. And how easy you can break promises.

Considering I never saw that post until now. I completely missed it and it didn't mean that and it appears you like to just want someone or something (The alliance) to lead you to the end. Solis there will come a point where you will stab the alliance in the back just to save yourself. I am not going against your alliance. Im voting whoever I feel deserves to leave for that given time.

 

[Solis22]

Oh and another thing Hockey. I may just be 13 but I pay a lot of attention in what everyone posts in this thread. And I remember that you and Nitasu go to the same school. Not sure if that's why you dont wanna be in the alliance anymore. Just pointing that out to everyone.

And listen. You just made a huge mistake. One thing I learned about Survivor Elba (First Season) is that if you betray someone that wil hunt you back. I did that and then I was voted out. And even if you get ot the Final 3 noone will want to vote for you to win.
So yeah. Huge mistake from your part.

 

[JohnOgozalek]

I'm trying to tell this too you, because I like you! Stay with us! Seriously just think, right now your sticking your hand in a big hornets nest. Come on my man, were all still loyal, that's the only thing that counts. So we will all pick off the others (which I do feel a bit sorry for, but its the game), and then continue into the game. The dark. Sure eventually, we'll turn on each other, but we'll go into the last stage as a group, and to be honest, I wouldn't want to go into the finals without any of our alliance, there great, this game is great. So come on, don't detonate, you, solis, and night take out Dio, and then use the randomizer. This is my last chance at diplomacy, I'm not even really involved in this. What do you say?

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Hockey, your great, your the best, but just listen quickly. EVERYONE in the alliance is still looking after each other. We're still like, uh, operatives, agents. The thing is, if we stay together as it is now, we'll all make the final, 11. That means only one of us will leave before we all make the jury. So basically, you make the jury in the alliance.

I won't count on that John. It seems like you Vati and Solis are the only ones posting about the alliance. Everyone else is trying to blend in any will do anything to survive. They might leave if a better opportunity comes. You can't trust people in the alliance you hardly talk to or know.

 

[JohnOgozalek]

Of course not, it's survivor, but I trust them now, because, why would they turn now? They can easily get into the jury basically, and of course they could turn, why not? In fact right now I'M putting a huge red target sign on myself, so I'm done, you guys can settle it, and it's already basically settled. I'm done.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Oh and another thing Hockey. I may just be 13 but I pay a lot of attention in what everyone posts in this thread. And I remember that you and Nitasu go to the same school. Not sure if that's why you dont wanna be in the alliance anymore. Just pointing that out to everyone.

And listen. You just made a huge mistake. One thing I learned about Survivor Elba (First Season) is that if you betray someone that wil hunt you back. I did that and then I was voted out. And even if you get ot the Final 3 noone will want to vote for you to win.
So yeah. Huge mistake from your part.

A. Nitasu is pissed of at me, because of JennaFlakes,
B. You say you learned something from the 1st survivor and look at one of your first posts. "Lets vote for Hockey" and you think Im getting you back right now, but I was trying to end the alliance in our tribe to relive tension, but you are bashing me about "betraying the alliance" which is ridiculous and I will look at every player as a player not a member of an alliance and will vote on there actions throughout the game

 

[Solis22]

Hockeyfan1852 Okay. You made your choice. We'll respect that. But I just wanna say something quick.
Being someone that speaks a lot in the thread doesnt mean we are the only ones on board with the alliance.

Being quiet doesnt mean you are not in the alliance. Have you thought about that maybe some Survivors in here are quiet just for "Strategy". Jeff (from Season 1) Was the most quiet person in the game. And he WON. His strategy worked. So being quiet doesnt mean they are not playing this game.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Hockeyfan1852 Okay. You made your choice. We'll respect that. But I just wanna say something quick.
Being someone that speaks a lot in the thread doesnt mean we are the only ones on board with the alliance.

Being quiet doesnt mean you are not in the alliance. Have you thought about that maybe some Survivors in here are quiet just for "Strategy". Jeff (from Season 1) Was the most quiet person in the game. And he WON. His strategy worked. So being quiet doesnt mean they are not playing this game.

Yes but when the did post they didn't talk about the alliance they talked about other things and are enjoying themselves and I don't think they want to be told who they should vote out by their alliance.

 

[Solis22]

If they dont want to be in the alliance they would've told us already. But no. That hasn't happen yet. So yeah. Lets leave it like this. You made your choice. And that's okay. Period.

 

[JohnOgozalek]

-->''I calmly pick a fig from a tree as I wander away from solis and Hockey. Sometimes I wonder if ansy should have put a fence up around everyone. I slowly walk back to camp contemplating my stupid mistake of getting into an argument. Oh well. I calmly set more figs down on the large rock me and Ooglie101 found. I take a piece of birch, and slowly write out a good luck message to FoxMccloud64. I know I'm against him, but he seems great, and I hope he comes back. I see Nomasaurus climbing a tree. A machete was strapped to his thigh. Hopefully he doesn't fall I thought. The sun set, shedding a bloody tinge to the land. Not a great day, but morning was coming after this night. I couldn't wait for tomorrow''<--

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Also Night_Slayer_ Read the last 1 and a half pages or so and tell us your opinion.
Also anyone in the alliance you can step forward and not be intimidated to doing so.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

I get tired of arguing with solis and walk away from him. I go jogging though a cleared dirt path in the woods and about an hour later the path leads to a cave. I think about the cave I got trapped in before with Nomasaurus and quickly back away. Then I jog back to camp. I was tired and layed in a little hut I built with the wood I got earlier and sit thinking about what just happened...

 

[Nomasaurus]

Both of you are being stupid.

I learned this a while ago from my dad.
There is no point in burning a bridge without good reason. Some day you might need that bridge in that place, and if it's not there to back you up, then what will you do?

And my dad makes a very good point. Why throw away a perfectly good alliance? Hockey and Solis, your tribe is now divided more or less 50 50, but the other two are not taking sides. Both of you are the strongest in your tribe.
GUESS WHAT. YOU'RE ALSO IN THE SAME ALLIANCE.
And also guess what. before you started arguing it would have still been divided 50 50 just like it is now.
I know both of you are dangerous to me but I can't help but try to help you two out. both of you are my friends and arguing like this is pointless.

solis22 Hockeyfan1852

 

[Nomasaurus]

Also when I called you stupid it was in a loving way <3 I just want both of you to stop arguing. We're strong. all of us. and we can continue to be strong, or break away, bit by bit, piece by piece until we're broken.

 

[JohnOgozalek]

Both of you are being stupid.

I learned this a while ago from my dad.
There is no point in burning a bridge without good reason. Some day you might need that bridge in that place, and if it's not there to back you up, then what will you do?

And my dad makes a very good point. Why throw away a perfectly good alliance? Hockey and Solis, your tribe is now divided more or less 50 50, but the other two are not taking sides. Both of you are the strongest in your tribe.
GUESS WHAT. YOU'RE ALSO IN THE SAME ALLIANCE.
And also guess what. before you started arguing it would have still been divided 50 50 just like it is now.
I know both of you are dangerous to me but I can't help but try to help you two out. both of you are my friends and arguing like this is pointless.

solis22 Hockeyfan1852

Best comment of the night

 

[Solis22]

Nomasaurus Totally understand. And I agree. Just want to say something. I am not the one who is leaving the alliance. Hockey was the one who decided to leave. I am just being loyal to all of you. That's it. I am trying to defend our Alliance.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Nomasaurus The argument is over it is who ever reads it to decide who's side they take on the argument. Here is a quote as well "Don't fear the enemy that attacks you, but fear the fake friend that hugs you"

 

[Solis22]

How cute!!! So we are all fake friends :) Thanks for the awesome quote Hockey <3

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

How cute!!! So we are all fake friends :) Thanks for the awesome quote Hockey <3

You have fake friends because you will end up stab each other in the back. Someone you trusted will vote you out to save themselves. If you stay in the tribe you will be better off.

 

[Hockeyfan1852]

Also solis I <3 that sarcasm it is cute too! <3