Mafia Season 5

[Nottykitten]

Really. Defiant is making a good point. The reason that all of you voted me over defiant is because he was the potential cop. Now that I am the potential cop suddenly you all thinks its a bad excuse..? How odd.

Sploor, you want so hard for me to reveal the vig's identity. While we both know we don't really want it.


I'm going to give this call to defiant. Defiant, should I reveal the vig's role?

 

[Nottykitten]

that makes no sense .-.

If you're the contact, you aren't going to risk your life for another mafia member. It's the most important role, you wouldn't be going through these hoops to prevent another mafia from dying.

Of course, you're just saying that so you can buy notty some extra time.

The reason notty doesn't want to say anything is probably because he really does know who the vig is. Problem is...he doesn't want to reveal that, because he knows the doctor will protect the vig if he does reveal. Which is where you come in, buying the mafia another night so they can eliminate the vigilante.

I was playing maplestory with my sister, your argument is invalid -.-

 

[zezmi]

Very well said sploorky.

 

[Sploorky]

I was playing maplestory with my sister, your argument is invalid -.-

Well, you've checked the thread a couple of times, couldn't you have said "I'll reveal it later"?

My posts are assumptions anyways, not facts.

 

[Nottykitten]

Well, you've checked the thread a couple of times, couldn't you have said "I'll reveal it later"?

My posts are assumptions anyways, not facts.

That was before the last 15 posts on this thread. So no, I couldn't.

 

[Sploorky]

That was before the last 15 posts on this thread. So no, I couldn't.

My post asking you to reveal the vig was 50 posts ago. But it doesn't really matter if you could have revealed it earlier or not, so meh :3

 

[zezmi]

Really. Defiant is making a good point.

Here again we have Mafia agreeing with one another.

Sploor, you want so hard for me to reveal the vig's identity. While we both know we don't really want it.

oh course sploorky doesn't wan't it, it would be bad for the town, and the doctor would have to save them instead of a more important person in nights to come.[/quote]

 

[Nottykitten]

My post asking you to reveal the vig was 50 posts ago. But it doesn't really matter if you could have revealed it earlier or not, so meh :3

But I said that I wouldnt reveal it untill I got another vote, which I am hoping I wont get. But now since you two keep asking me, I dont think that's gonna work. But, I dont want to make stupid mistakes. So I will let Defiant decide wether I should reveal the Vig or not. Because defiant is experienced, and is the only one that actualy believes in me. [Or atleast a bit]

 

[Defiant_Blob]

If the vig is revealed Sploorky and @zezmi have to vote me.

 

[zezmi]

ah, sorry for my derpy [/quote] :/

 

[Nottykitten]

If the vig is revealed Sploorky and @zezmi have to vote me.

Seems like a good deal. x)

 

[Nottykitten]

Well actualy, not entirely. Because they will still be killing an innocent. So its better if then they take their votes to oak or someone else.

 

[zezmi]

If the vig is revealed Sploorky and @zezmi have to vote me.

Why would that make us vote you? We are voting for the suspected contact, even is notty is not the contact he is Mafia. But seeing as another Mafia member would risk themselves so the contact could have one more night to investigate I am pretty sure notty is the contact. You will now try to distract the town to lynch us, just like you did with old_man_oak, but only the Mafia voted for him too.

 

[Nottykitten]

Why would that make us vote you? We are voting for the suspected contact, even is notty is not the contact he is Mafia. But seeing as another Mafia member would risk themselves so the contact could have one more night to investigate I am pretty sure notty is the contact. You will now try to distract the town to lynch us, just like you did with old_man_oak, but only the Mafia voted for him too.

Zemzi, I dont know whats going on in your head.. But are you hallucinating.

In really NO way defiant or me suggested to lynch YOU. Or even sploorky. Where do you keep getting that from.
And it was me who told everyone to kill oak, as he is the serial killer [I think].

And i'm not mafia nor am I the contact. I am the cop/detective.
And I will arrest you! xD

 

[Sploorky]

You form all these hypothetical situations to favor you and never stop to think about other things.

Bit ironic to say that when you haven't even acknowledged the possibility that notty may be the contact. Keep in mind, if one mafia member had to fake a claim as a cop, it would be the contact.

If the vig is revealed Sploorky and @zezmi have to vote me.

....no.

What if the supposed vigilante says he isn't? I'm certainly not going to vote for anyone but notty if he says someone is a vigilante when that person is not.

If notty convinces me that he's a cop, I won't vote for him. Simple. If he doesn't reveal the information he has, he's not going to be able to convince me.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

Wait why am I bothering to argue with the mafia. I refuse to speak until the rest of the players decide to contribute.

 

[Sploorky]

In really NO way defiant or me suggested to lynch YOU. Or even sploorky. Where do you keep getting that from.

Town members, if you do kill the cop, look at those who refused to vote me.

I've got the mafia squirming because they almost have the cop.
If I'm the only one who sees this...

Can the actual town please participate.

Your reasoning is flawed and mafia-like.

I'm persuading people that your actions are anti-town at the moment.

If you do not change your mind you are confirmed mafia in my eyes.

Why do you want the vigilante outted.
I think the mafia just wants to find another power role to kill.

Saying "you are the mafia" is pretty much saying "town, I think we should lynch these guys"

 

[Nottykitten]

Saying "you are the mafia" is pretty much saying "town, I think we should lynch these guys"

I disagree. Its an opinion. Its a whole lot else then me saying: Lynch oak. Or you saying: Lets lynch notty!

[I will now be gone for 30 minutes and wont respond to you, just so you know x)]

 

[zezmi]

In really NO way defiant or me suggested to lynch YOU. Where do you keep getting that from.

I "keep getting" it from these quotes:

If you are town vote me.

If you are town the choice is obvious.

Unless you are mafia scared I am stealing the chance to kill cop from you. Town members, if you do kill the cop, look at those who refused to vote me.

I've got the mafia squirming because they almost have the cop.

If I'm the only one who sees this...

If you do not change your mind you are confirmed mafia in my eyes.

 

[zezmi]

(all the quotes above where edited of the parts that don't refer to me.)

 

[77thShad]

Hmm, I will hold my vote until we have proof that notty is the cop.

 

[Sploorky]

I disagree. Its an opinion. Its a whole lot else then me saying: Lynch oak. Or you saying: Lets lynch notty!

But, it's appealing to what the crowd is aiming for. The town is aiming to kill the mafia. If you say "I think you're mafia" it goes without saying that you will work towards lynching this person. It's kind of like running up to a police officer and saying "Help, this person attacked me!". He's not going to wait around until you ask for him to arrest the man. He knows what the attacked person wants him to do, just as the town will know what defiant wants them to do if he says "I think you are mafia".

 

[HarmakAnna]

This is starting to get ridiculous.

Remember a couple seasons ago? And the season before that? And before that? In the majority of the seasons, the cop was killed by the town. This is what I see happening now, for probably the fourth time. Every time they thought the cop was mafia, we lost an important role in the game. So what are we doing, assuming the worst case scenario where notty is the contact and he's doing this only to save himself for the mafia?

While basing logic on past events can be seen as bad, I beg to differ. Knowing the way a lot of you guys play, I wouldn't be surprised if notty was the cop.

One more thing. It would be safer to lynch Defiant, because of the fact that he's defending notty on this grand of a scale. If he was mafia, or even godfather (which I think he ISN'T) THEN we would have a reasonable claim to get the vigilante to attack notty. But for now, why? Why would we lynch someone claiming cop when there's one person we have had a pretty good lead on as either a serial killer or an elite civilian, that at this point would be as useful as a normal civilian (which I'll be voting for, Old_Man_Oak) or someone who's literally BEGGING to be lynched in order to save this PR.

 

[Nottykitten]

But, it's appealing to what the crowd is aiming for. The town is aiming to kill the mafia. If you say "I think you're mafia" it goes without saying that you will work towards lynching this person. It's kind of like running up to a police officer and saying "Help, this person attacked me!". He's not going to wait around until you ask for him to arrest the man. He knows what the attacked person wants him to do, just as the town will know what defiant wants them to do if he says "I think you are mafia".

Or:
Person: "I think that person is a murderer"
Cop: "I won't do anything with it untill I get proof"

You could make a reference to a person and a cop anyways. Yours is a right as mine.
But the discussion of wether those quotes are to persuade people to vote is pretty pointless. Lets drop it. It's going away from the real problem. Voting me, or voting someone else.

 

[Sploorky]

So what are we doing, assuming the worst case scenario where notty is the contact and he's doing this only to save himself for the mafia?

Kind of what people are doing to Oak, and assuming he's the killer based on the fact that he has two hitpoints.

While basing logic on past events can be seen as bad, I beg to differ. Knowing the way a lot of you guys play, I wouldn't be surprised if notty was the cop.

Most of the people who played this game aren't those people.

I'll say it again. If there is a chance notty is the contact, I'll do all I can to make sure he gets eliminated before the other mafia members. If he wants to give specific proof that he is the cop, I will lay off him. He's been unwilling to do so thus far, though.

Mafia is a game of risks. We've been given a claim, but no evidence to support it, as well as gaping plot holes in that claim. The question is, are we going to risk the single most destructive mafia member stick around on the chance that's he cop, or risk killing the cop who hasn't met the demands of people to prove he's the cop on the chance he is mafia.