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I'm going to go with my gut and trust Defiant for this one.

I think that he said he was testing us as a justification to his random vote. He said that after we didn't bandwagon on that vote. I even ignored that vote for hockeyfan completely.

Also, 4/12 are anti-town. We still have three power roles. A lot of this will come up to potential crossfire across mafia/serial killer/vigilante. Despite what Kylieanna said about the serial killer day 1, I would prefer if we could vote off the serial killer today. All it takes is three more town-sided deaths to put us into crisis mode.

I would also like to point out that it sounds like the vigilante targeted Sjaakieto, which makes me curious. Many people were annoyed by his initial actions on day 1.
 

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I would also like to point out that it sounds like the vigilante targeted Sjaakieto, which makes me curious. Many people were annoyed by his initial actions on day 1.
Well---
I can't exactly condone that, and I can't really blame people for getting annoyed.
Near the beginning of Day 1 he started to randomly spew out role-claims, and later on he never really did contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way and honestly, it sometimes felt like he halted or at least formed distractions between discussions.
Heck, even Dessern decided to place a (quickly corrected) vote on him because he was constantly claiming random roles in a fashion that really made no sense, and once again, helped nothing to the discussion.

And honestly, although I strongly condone or disagree that Sjaakieto should've been considered suspicious just because he was randomly claiming roles, or really not contributing to the conversation (ex: that silly, silly lynch with Jolt last season, why did you do that anyways? ;-;), to be honest, I'm not entirely sad to see him go.
However, it still is a crushing blow to the town; We lost an independent and 2 townsfolk, which is nothing to be laughing at.

And if you really do bring up such curiosity involving Sjaakieto, if I have to guess based on his death and from people's reactions in the previous day, I could guess Dessern is the vigilante? I don't know. Even though I said it, it feels like a bit of a stretch.
 

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Thing is, we don't have too many leads. Notty's dead, Hockey's dead, that means that Storm probably isn't Mafia (unless I've missed something which I have most likely) and that just leaves a couple of people. We're back to square one.
Actually, what has recently happened really hasn't proven anything involving storm.
Since there was no evidence or anything really that actually involved storm besides "just happening to vote similarly to that of Hockey and Notty," really doesn't make him Mafia, nor does it "make him less likely to not be Mafia."
Merely, we return to square one, where, unless that is your "hunch," that storm is Mafia, then there is really nothing that proves or disprooves storm is Mafia as of this moment.

I guess... Unless anyone has any hunches or leads then we are-- essentially back at square one.
 

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Thing is, we don't have too many leads. Notty's dead, Hockey's dead, that means that Storm probably isn't Mafia (unless I've missed something which I have most likely) and that just leaves a couple of people. We're back to square one.
Actually, what has recently happened really hasn't proven anything involving storm.
Since there was no evidence or anything really that actually involved storm besides "just happening to vote similarly to that of Hockey and Notty," really doesn't make him Mafia, nor does it "make him less likely to not be Mafia."
Merely, we return to square one, where, unless that is your "hunch," that storm is Mafia, then there is really nothing that proves or disprooves storm is Mafia as of this moment.

I guess... Unless anyone has any hunches or leads then we are-- essentially back at square one.
Alright, I guess I haven't missed anything then :p and I was saying that if storm was suspicious, then he isn't any longer, however small the lead was.

But yeah, this game is going to go slow for a few more days until we have a better lead.
 

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I am getting a bit annoyed with the level of participation from a lot of us.

To keep this game active, I'm starting a vote. DillonSaysRawr.

One, for lack of participation during day one. Two, he hasn't responded with his thoughts. Honestly he screams mafia to me, as he's been playing a perfect under the radar game. Don't tell me that I should wait for his thoughts before voting him, because he has enough time to post them regardless. And I am perfectly willing to take my vote back if he convinces me that he's innocent.
 

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I am getting a bit annoyed with the level of participation from a lot of us.

To keep this game active, I'm starting a vote. DillonSaysRawr.

One, for lack of participation during day one. Two, he hasn't responded with his thoughts. Honestly he screams mafia to me, as he's been playing a perfect under the radar game. Don't tell me that I should wait for his thoughts before voting him, because he has enough time to post them regardless. And I am perfectly willing to take my vote back if he convinces me that he's innocent.
Pretty much the same reasons as me, I vote DillonSaysRawr.
 

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I am getting a bit annoyed with the level of participation from a lot of us.

To keep this game active, I'm starting a vote. DillonSaysRawr.

One, for lack of participation during day one. Two, he hasn't responded with his thoughts. Honestly he screams mafia to me, as he's been playing a perfect under the radar game. Don't tell me that I should wait for his thoughts before voting him, because he has enough time to post them regardless. And I am perfectly willing to take my vote back if he convinces me that he's innocent.
Time to convince. The main reason I haven't been posting anything is because I'm scared to. It may sound silly, but I feel that anything I say, someone will turn it into something completely irrelevant, or they may twist it into making it seem like I'm something I'm not. This may not win over your trust, and may not take your vote away, but I give you my word. I will try my best to stay out from under the radar and share my opinions more often. I just ask you the favor of not voting me.
 

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I can sympathise with that Dillon. I want to let you know that we never mean harm with what we say. It is true that what you say can end up being used against you. But saying nothing is not good because otherwise we go into stagnation and that can bring down the entire game.

I'll ask you a straightforward question, then.

What are your thoughts on what happened on Day 1, and the start of day 2? Feel free to speak your mind.
 

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I am getting a bit annoyed with the level of participation from a lot of us.

To keep this game active, I'm starting a vote. DillonSaysRawr.

One, for lack of participation during day one. Two, he hasn't responded with his thoughts. Honestly he screams mafia to me, as he's been playing a perfect under the radar game. Don't tell me that I should wait for his thoughts before voting him, because he has enough time to post them regardless. And I am perfectly willing to take my vote back if he convinces me that he's innocent.
Time to convince. The main reason I haven't been posting anything is because I'm scared to. It may sound silly, but I feel that anything I say, someone will turn it into something completely irrelevant, or they may twist it into making it seem like I'm something I'm not. This may not win over your trust, and may not take your vote away, but I give you my word. I will try my best to stay out from under the radar and share my opinions more often. I just ask you the favor of not voting me.
One thing you should try is not be scared. It's not too bad speaking out your mind. I'm not withdrawing my vote yet, but I'm somewhat encouraged to.
 

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I feel that the game is progressing great. There has been some drama, which is good for things like this. The votings have took me by surprise, and I didn't expect to see some of the people that have been lynched or killed go so early. Things are heating up.
This is a very general statement about the game overall which avoids taking sides. I wouldn't penalize Dillon for this because there really isn't much that he can take sides on right now, since we know notty's role, hockey's role, etc. But I am still suspicious of him.

Another person who seems to be making general statements and kind of riding the fence is balloon98. Although he did take a side on the nottycat issue, he didn't do it until others were also skeptical of nottycat. His actions speak mafia to me. He hasn't given any reason for me not to vote for him. So I'm going to go ahead and vote balloon98.
 

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I am getting a bit annoyed with the level of participation from a lot of us.

To keep this game active, I'm starting a vote. DillonSaysRawr.

One, for lack of participation during day one. Two, he hasn't responded with his thoughts. Honestly he screams mafia to me, as he's been playing a perfect under the radar game. Don't tell me that I should wait for his thoughts before voting him, because he has enough time to post them regardless. And I am perfectly willing to take my vote back if he convinces me that he's innocent.
Wat.
What?
And I thought thus far we were doing SO WELL in avoiding the stereotypical and silly arguments based on skill, quietness, and etc. We were doing so well in avoiding that on the first day, and as soon as this second one starts we immediately decide to jump onto that specific argument and/or bandwagon?

This was why I was so infuriated by Mafia Lite Season 3.5 prior to this, because Marn's argument held no water in terms of actual evidence.
We already know that people can be quiet as well as have a high level of participation.
We have noted in the past that people can do this whether it be a specific / preferred playstyle.
Yes, sometimes people don't have much to say that'll contribute to the discussion; Because why have someone post something not that useful to the topic at hand, when it could, if twisted the right way by a player, be used against them as possible Mafia, Serial Killer, Independent, etc???

I do not like this argument.
It doesn't make Dillion suspicious of Mafia at all.
All it does, is make note of a clear, invisible rule of Mafia:

"If you decide to join in on a Mafia Season, you have an obligation of participating in the discussion and trying to actually play the game for whatever alignment/team you are apart of and not merely just sitting there and watching from afar."

That is the only thing that this kind of argument can legitimately be correct in, is that some players are not acting enough in the game as they possibly should, because if they don't, they will
1) Either be considered Mafia for this very reason of being "Quiet/Low participation,"
and
2) Slows down the game, brings us into stalemates, eventually bringing us to deadends and loss of discussion and interest in the game.

I don't see Dillon as Mafia at all because of this.
Arguments like this tend to make me more adamant in opposing said arguments and my refusal to vote due to said arguments being used.
If you want me to vote on something like this, produce a good discussion with some good, rational suspicion, logic, and/or evidence to back it up.

Also:
I will abstain for now because I have been a bit busy as of late.
Don't abstain. D:
Ever since abstaining became apart of the voting process in which an abstain lessens the amount of votes needed for a successful lynch, abstaining has been essentially nigh-useless and bad for the town in question.
Lynches should be a unanimous vote based on what everyone in the town (using the town as "all players in the daytime" in this example) thinks is best for that day in question.
Abstaining essentially lowers the needed voting count, allowing room for less-logically sound lynches to squeeze through the cracks, and allow potential anti-town roles to start making pushes.
Don't abstain people! It's not good for the game!

Also (since I was just alerted to this):
I feel that the game is progressing great. There has been some drama, which is good for things like this. The votings have took me by surprise, and I didn't expect to see some of the people that have been lynched or killed go so early. Things are heating up.
This is a very general statement about the game overall which avoids taking sides. I wouldn't penalize Dillon for this because there really isn't much that he can take sides on right now, since we know notty's role, hockey's role, etc. But I am still suspicious of him.

Another person who seems to be making general statements and kind of riding the fence is balloon98. Although he did take a side on the nottycat issue, he didn't do it until others were also skeptical of nottycat. His actions speak mafia to me. He hasn't given any reason for me not to vote for him. So I'm going to go ahead and vote balloon98.
I remember Notty saying he was suspicious of Balloon before he died, but I'm not entirely sure why. :unsure:
Unless I'm just being oblivious to some information because I was focusing on everything else at hand, then I'm not entirely sure why Balloon would be suspicious.
Can you give some examples (like, from quotes or stuff) so I can be caught up/understand your suspicions better.
I'm curious / can't seem to understand it quite yet without that kind of assistance.

PS: People, you need to start talking. I don't want this to end up like another Season in which we decide just to end the season entirely due to lack of participation. If you joined this forum game, you should be talking and participating.
 

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I feel that the game is progressing great. There has been some drama, which is good for things like this. The votings have took me by surprise, and I didn't expect to see some of the people that have been lynched or killed go so early. Things are heating up.
This is a very general statement about the game overall which avoids taking sides. I wouldn't penalize Dillon for this because there really isn't much that he can take sides on right now, since we know notty's role, hockey's role, etc. But I am still suspicious of him.

Another person who seems to be making general statements and kind of riding the fence is balloon98. Although he did take a side on the nottycat issue, he didn't do it until others were also skeptical of nottycat. His actions speak mafia to me. He hasn't given any reason for me not to vote for him. So I'm going to go ahead and vote balloon98.
I too need explaining from you since I was the first one to vote AGAINST notty my reasons for posting late on it was since I had to go to bed then woke up to 2 pages of information like "what just happened". Sure I make general statement s since I too dont want to be lynched again for suspecting someone just since i felt they were mafia and then I was lynched. There isn't much reason to go on me other than suspicion and notty probably wanted me gone and had "suspicions" because I had probably accidentally started the huge bandwagon on her. So explain why I look suspicious since I want to know that at least.
 

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thankg god we can start out with a mafia death unlike other seasons where it takes us ten years to find one.
It is true that many town members might make this statement, because it is a good thing that a mafia member was dead the first night. But it would also be a good statement to make if you were a mafia member or serial killer wouldn't it? You make the town people feel like you're one of them when you're not.
Now I think master could be the lyncher since he/she (I have still not figured out I think its she) is trying to lynch digi a lot with not a lot of good reasons but more as a hunch and off emoticons. The first night is usually the hardest but we got a mafia member down we have a chance to lynch I say lets YOLO it and lynch master
YOLO it? Makes me wonder why you would say this after scolding notty for accusing people for using emoticons. Throughout your posts you have this care free, friendly attitude that makes you seem harmless. Wouldn't this be a good strategy if you were the mafia or serial killer?

well crap I forgot to remove my vote from earlier
When people say that they would've removed their vote after the vote is already locked in, it makes me very suspicous. Either you honestly would've removed your vote or........ you actually are the mafia and you realized that notty was not one of your kind. You wanted her out, but realizing that she could have very well been an elite civilian, you say that you would have removed your vote. This way the townsfolk see you on their side in a sense.
To me, you are suspicious of a mafia or some deadly independent role using reverse psychology on the townsfolk.
 
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