Blocktopia Mafia Season 7
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JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Plus, note people can also be influenced just by seeing people being suspicious of said person (this case balloon), so subconsciously they can start feeling that same suspicion, so really I'm reading these answers with some doubt unless there's a good/understandable reason to be suspicious.
But yeah, since there's actually, really no reason to vote balloon off, why would we? Tis' a clumsy move on our part.
Who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
I still hold true to my suspicions of Oak, Dess, and Ltin. I am almost certain one of them is the remaining Mafia, but all three are blurring into each other now that I can never be certain which I feel strongly enough to be an actual threat to the town. I already said why (hopefully) in previous posts, I don't feel the need to repeat really.
Who do you trust most?
I actually have a good number of people I believe I can trust, and I'm actually formulating some theories behind certain players and their possible roles, which I believe I have a strong hunch on. At the moment I trust myself (obviously) since I already know my personal role, I know I am not the Serial killer and know myself to be town-sided whether you believe otherwise or not. Along that I'm currently trusting of Kylie and grimjow; Kylie on the basis of replacing superstein, appearing relatively trustworthy of character, and really, since Jivvi was essentially one of the first players to vote of super (along with oak and ltin) even if I believe there was absolutely nothing against him, and now that Kylie has taken his place she seems fairly trustworthy to me, grimjow off a hunch (I'm trusting people I didn't expect to trust this game)
Strangely I'm also fairly certain I can trust (in role, not necessarily in post) Notty and Balloon. Honestly I highly doubt Notty is really the Lucky Civilian still, rather a different role entirely, though honestly I want to keep my thoughts on those two personal for now.
Oh yeah, I can also trust my partner, the copycat, whoever she/he is in the remaining player list.
Of course if you even want to believe I was copied.
Who do you suspect is most likely to be the Serial Killer?
I don't know if I said why I suspect digi afterwards, even after I used this as more of a joke about all the votes against super, but as the game has progressed I'm actually feeling great suspicion on digi, even if she really hasn't said anything.
And actually, I REAAAALLLY don't want to explain my reasoning cause when I go over it in my head it sounds soooo egotistical and tooting horn/whatever and something like that (doesn't mean that it is, just sounds that way to me), but I don't really know how to say it any other way. (So I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly hate this reasoning but...)
This only works on the basis on personal knowledge of digi, and the events that have taken place over 2 nights.
And on this basis, I'm nothing the deaths of first: Defiant, and second: Jivvi, both killed by the serial killer. (oh and road the enderman, but he isn't apart of this paragraph)
Although it could be a coincidence, or perhaps the technique by the Mafia to let the Vigilante and Serial killer pick off the bigger targets during the night, I can personally feel it differently as the reason to by Defiant died. I was strongly suggesting my suspicions on Defiant already on my Day 0 post before we finally decided upon the chance of a No Lynch. I believe I was the only one that day to ever really lay a suspicion on Defiant. The next night Defiant ends up dead.
The first real day was basically just all of the stuff against Storm. I still regret not being more precise and lazy to actually defend storm (another example of an instance I don't quite feel had enough evidence to gander a lynch), and I generally I never made any suspicions, and really just did a post to try and stir up a little drama with the copycat thing but that never happened.
Finally with Jivvi, I could say I could suspect Balloon for serial killer hear, because he was I believe my sole angel who believed in my innocence (<3) against my lynching, but I'm really not suspicious of him of being anti-town. However, similar to the case with Defiant, I believe I was the only person to actually suspect Jivvi of anything, instead having all the votes come down on me after a spin by Jivvi; then later he dies the next night.
I'm not certain how legal it is to say/do this (though I don't see any rules as I'm reading through them against this)
This all is based on the idea that: for the most part, all of these deaths occurred less than a few days ago: when I was technically on a summer holiday from school. Often, I would be sitting on the TS in the music room and we would listen to music, and often I had talked to digi during these periods. We, on occasion, reminded each other to post a response to the Mafia thread (cause this was when I was being lazy with my posting and working on projects).
Not much of a reason, but its one.
There is also the idea that... digi... really hasn't said anything, has she?
And this day has actually taken awhile to even begin, hasn't it?
Originally, I was going to argue that the Mafia actually could have no responded to killing anyone, because in one season when I was Mafia, we never attacked because we took too long to actually decided on a target. That would have put question to the idea that Mafia attacked a person with 2 lives at night (which began this entire serial killer discussion), but that theory was debunked by Alpha's clarification.
...
So one team, unless it was Alpha himself (which I doubt), had to have taken awhile to actually target a player. Honestly we can't/don't know that, we don't know if the Vig or SK or Mafia took awhile to target a player, if at all, so really, this is all on a guess that the SK did it.
I know, bad reasoning. It just all sounds better in my head.
Who do you suspect is most likely to be a member of the mafia?
See Section 1 of "Who is the most suspicious person to you" portion of this post.
Since I don't have any evidence to actually see anything about a potential Mafia, and I actually have a better idea on people now, I think I will actually vote to lynch digitalmez. (sorry hun. </3)(Also you really need to talk more <3 I'm missing your posts)
May just be me, I don't know... yeah I don't know.
Oh well, that's it I guess. Blergh.
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Ooooh, one more thing I wanted to respond to:
I still don't understand... whatever I was saying in that post to you. I believe I wanted to know the actual example/evidence/quote of whatever it is (sorry i'm forgetting) that was... oh yeah, suggesting I was SK? Just wanted the actual quote so I could understand your reasoning cause I went back to read my posts and I didn't see anything. :<
Oak Milk
Kill Hungry Thirsty Dead
One sec while I find it...
Found it
You really went to great lengths to throw off would-be lynchers from your role, which is what really threw me off with this post, its the sort of thing I would have expected from a 3rd party member, not really a towny or even a mafia (well maybe, but obviously not since Alpha never did say the mafia had gained an extra member) this is really what made me thought you were the serial killer, i never commented on it, but then its been in the back of my mind since Day 1.Well, well, well. What have we here?
Curious. Why have I suddenly been pulled into and centered around such controversial arguments; It makes me deeply troubled.
-sigh-
First, let me state that if I am being suspected here, I do not deny it.
Whenever I post, unless I am being directly accused and must defend myself, or if pretending to be a civilian allows me to win, then I will do so. Otherwise, I always keep my position open and up to suspect, because let's be honest...
...How is it that you can believe what role I truly am? That is indeed the case, because the only "truth" that can be derived from any player is that only the Host themselves, and the player in question, know their specific roles.
Can you trust that person? or can you not? Once again, that is up to you, because as I always say...
"...There is still always that chance that the one you believe most to be your friend, is truly, your enemy..."
So, go ahead and suspect me if you wish...
...However, do not do it in the way that has been presented here today.
I was hoping these matters were laid to rest in the past, yet they seem to continue to resurface, continue to rise from between the cracks of memories...
The essential notion of the first post from storm speaks this simple idea: more experienced players will be targeted first, and should they still believe alive, they should be most up to be of suspect...
...Which, I always dub to be ludicrous and a completely unreliable idea for any player to follow.
The roles are randomized, the opinions and bias and thoughts of players continually shifting, and every role a secret until revealed to truth by either death, or a "confirmed" cop (without the chance of him being the contact) showing such a role in question.
There are too many factors, to many circumstances and "what if's" that could occur.
You cannot rely on silly stereotypical questions to base your suspicions on such as "This player is skilled, he could be Mafia" or "This player is quiet, he must be Mafia," so on, and so on.
If you wish to suspect me, or anyone else for that matter, so be it. However, if you begin your suspicions with this idea automatically implied within the sentence itself, I will not take it seriously, and will consider it un-trustable testimony.
...
...However, if I must answer the question of:
Well...
I believe I stated the reason in a previous season, did I not?
Anyways, myself, being experienced in both the Town and Mafia-sided parties in my lifetime in forum Mafia, I must say I have spent significantly spent more time playing the role of a snitch, a Mafia member, in the majority of the Season's I have been apart of.
In my experience, I must say that the answer is simple:
I've seen to have noticed a trend which can normally be relied upon, and I must say was fairly prevalent and noticeable last season.
The fact remains that: "Why, as Mafia, kill off the most experienced players at a time when they pose no threat to you and instead, are being most suspected and watched by the rest of the playerbase?" Which, I might add, consists of the Vigilante AND Serial killer as well.
Kill 2 birds with 1 stone, as they say...
And in this case, kill off the other players in the pool and leave the dirty work and have the guilt be laid upon by both the Vigilante and the Serial killer. Unless the situation called for it, it was best to leave those most suspected during the day, or those whom are deemed "experienced" to fall at the hands of others.
That... was a rule I always tried to stick by, and honestly, was a fairly reliable way to play the game.
This can most likely be the case with Fruit, as it was, indeed, the Mafia, and not the Vigilante nor Serial Killer, whom killed Fruit.
We could have a skilled member in the Mafia, true.
We could also have a player who's read this tactic before (as I'm certain I stated this in a past season).
Or, we could just have a tricky player, who knows how to play their cards right, and that, can essentially just be anyone.
Just... a little food for thought there.
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Now, I want to address another issue I have in a specific post:
Another issue I had hoped would be laid to rest after another player, that being the deceased: Defiant_Blob, also stated something similar to being suspicious of players whom answered or proposed questions were most likely Mafia and could be used to their advantage...
...Which is true.
However, any post can be twisted or used toward any players advantage. (am I doing it right now? Perhaps.).
Now, I do not want to go into to much detail after I already stated my thoughts on such a topic in my 1 previous post regarding Defiant (if you didn't read it already), but...
In all my days of forum Mafia, feeling suspicious, especially out of the blue, on... "QUESTIONS?!"
Honestly, that just feels absolutely crazy in my eyes.
Again, what are the point of questions: To spur an exchange in a what would be either a rushed scenario (in that case a no-lynch), or to spur discussion in an event of a drought of discussion (which is also in the case of these questions proposed by Sploorky).
Honestly, what could we talk about on a "Day Zero" so to speak?
I mean, nothing has occurred. It is a day before the actual game begins. We do not know what will happen, we have no leads.
Day 0 was essentially just to get all of our thoughts together, and instead of going into this season blind, we would AT LEAST, have a decent idea of where our alliances were, and whom we could believe to be our enemies.
Again, you could say the Mafia was using those questions in order to assist them...
But I could still say the same that such questions and again, "Any post," can still be used against any player.
Because...
....You are essentially using those questions against Sploorky in that post of yours, are you not?
Again... Just a little food for thought.
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I cannot say anything for Defiant...
But for myself, I can say that personally, after a number of seasons playing alongside of Defiant, I can safely say that I can never trust Defiant in terms of his testimony or posts... at least, as a fellow player in a Mafia game.
Defiant still holds large influence in these Seasons, and thus, it can be used to his advantage.
Although being Mafia himself last season, balloon felt Defiant did a clever idea with the lyncher: (at least that is what I am perceiving from this)
Which I still disagree to and find silly.
I don't trust Defiant, and I even stated in my post against him on the previous day that I feel that:
And I still hold to that statement at this very moment. It is nothing personal, purely my opinion and position in this current predicament.
Does this relationship with Defiant on my end make me suspicious because he was the one to die this night?:
- A possibility.
Could I be the vigilante because of this circumstance?:
- A possibility.
Could I also be the Serial Killer because of this as well?:
- Again, a possibility.
It all comes down to the fact that you have to decide on whom you want to believe you can trust, and whom you can't, so make that decision wisely, and be prepared to change it at a moment notice, because someone could backstab you at any moment, and the evidence / argument you thought to be sound, could just be a clever ploy or wrong in its entirety.
Be careful.
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Now... After reading through these past few pages, I noticed a specific discussion and I thought,
"How interesting."
This discussion, though not referencing me personally, did discuss a role which I am affiliated with in some respect and I thought,
"Why not create a bit of controversy, speculation, and a flair of drama?"
"Why not... make this season just... That much more interesting? --- Despite the risk I am putting on myself."
Now, the discussion I am referring to began a particular "road to ruin," whom began a little discussion in terms of the "Copycat."
Here is the, "small," discussion in whole:
Now, I can understand that people would be worried about the Copycat, as there is the chance that--- there is essentially a "2nd" of ANY POWER-ROLE---- then again, there is just as likely of a chance of being a normal civilian, though that doesn't prove or take away the idea of the other.I really think that this copycat thing isn't gonna work in our favour. We're just gonna be like; 'Yay! We killed the serial killer!' And then it'll turn out that we've ended up with 2 killers, or 2 godfathers or something less that beneficial.
The copycat is dangerous if in the wrong hands...
...Especially... If they chose a Mafia member or the Serial killer, both playing their cards against the town, and making it "THAT" much more difficult to win in the end-game...
...However, I hope to put those fears to rest, for I know for certain that...
The copycat visited myself during the night, and have thus, copied my role.
There is now... Two, of my respective role.
Now...
If you believe you can trust me, and believe I truly am, on the side of the town, then congratulations, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of the Copycat.
If I am a power-role, then should I die, then you have another whom can step up and take my place. If I am merely a civilian, then in the end, nothing was lost or gained besides an extra civilian to take the brunt of the nightly attacks until you are able to find the chance to kill off the Mafia and win the day...
...Or loose, if you cannot succeed in that task, which is again, always a possibility.
And I guess this could also, you could put it...
A...
..."Threat," so to speak, to those whom I am against in this season, for even if I am killed, whether by lynch, by dishonorable backstabbing, by nightly attack, by anything, then I shall not truly die.
My...
..."Apprentice," all for dramatic flair of course, will still be there, with the same role: a duplicate.
And unless they can find that role, whatever "MY" role is, will still live on in my stead.
Again, whether you choose to believe I am town-sided or not, as I have stated throughout this post and a number in the past, such opinions are purely up to you to decide.
What does your heart tell you?
What does the evidence show?
Will you take... If any!... "That" chance?
Are you prepared to face the worst if that is the case?
And are you ready to revel if you are correct?
...
Only time will tell, of course.
Obviously I am not going to disclose my true role, if it is indeed anything but the civilian role, nor am I going to reveal that of the copycat.
If the copycat did not wish for me to reveal that they we are partners in this affair, then I apologize.
But, please, do not even show your identity unless the case is necessary.
And of course, I wish you good-luck should I die.
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If you are wondering why I am posting so much in this single post, and why I am touching on many a trivial post or controversial or thought provoking----
And creating such a controversial piece of evidence as proven by the final point I procured in this lengthy post, then it is simply this:
I, personally, DO believe, that myself, will not be making it that far into this season.
After my performance as the sole surviving Mafia member in the previous season, and after being put into this position as an "experienced player," I personally feel quite targeted...
... AND, should anything go wrong and I DO die, then I wanted to post anything and everything I have a problem with, or something I feel will provoke discussion or push the game forward.
Also seeing that the very first "legitimate" vote was cast recently, I will also not reveal my position in the case of suspecting "Storm," quite yet.
Instead, I will ask you this:
Can the ideas against Storm be proven, strongly agreed with, or backed up by previous evidence?
Are you certain about this and have you thought out the other possibilities? Are you suspicious of anything? Have you over-looked anything?
...
Where do YOU stand in terms of these recent revelations and ideas and theories?
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You must decide for yourselves, of course.
-JKangaroo
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
I disagree with both those votes unfortunately. Ive talked about Kylie enough but I havent talked about Digi. All out of game connections aside, I find that the lack of posting from Digi has a more "I lost interest" aura to it rather than a "I gotta keep in the shadows" aura. Someone with a power role doesnt usually lost interest that easy, so that leads me to believe that she is a civilian or a lucky civilian. I think it would be a mistake to vote for her.
On the other hand, Im going to vote Dessern5 I still believe Oak and him are the last mafia members and after Dessern voted for someone I feel I can trust, that focuses my suspicion onto him.
On the other hand, Im going to vote Dessern5 I still believe Oak and him are the last mafia members and after Dessern voted for someone I feel I can trust, that focuses my suspicion onto him.
I keep not getting alerts :c
Anyway I am retracting my vote from Kylieanna. I realized that the suspicions on her were premature and frankly weak.
Hype, may I ask you why you are feeling that Oak and I are mafia members? I know you said I voted for somebody that you can trust. But how do you know you can trust them it doesn't seem very strong based to me.
Also I am leaning towards digi now for overall inactivity (I know it is another bad reason but we need people here)
Anyway I am retracting my vote from Kylieanna. I realized that the suspicions on her were premature and frankly weak.
Hype, may I ask you why you are feeling that Oak and I are mafia members? I know you said I voted for somebody that you can trust. But how do you know you can trust them it doesn't seem very strong based to me.
Also I am leaning towards digi now for overall inactivity (I know it is another bad reason but we need people here)
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
My reasoning behind why I think you two are the mafia, it seems like you, Jivvi and Oak all voted as a team. Now I dont have any solid evidence but that made me have suspicions of you.
balloon98
The balloon that never pops
Yeah sorry I have been busy as of late. I have also felt digi has been more quiet than usual but I feel she isnt the serial killer and instead maybe one of the elite civillians? I dont know thats my guess because if she did get roleblocked like she said she did. Doesnt that mean the serial killer would not have killed anyone that night? So with that reasoning unless she lied about being roleblocked she cant be the serial killer.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
I have an idea. Give me awhile to type it up.
We may be able to shorten the list of candidates of the players currently present, just give me a bit to explain.
Also I take away my vote from digitalmez for now. I have to make sure of something.
We may be able to shorten the list of candidates of the players currently present, just give me a bit to explain.
Also I take away my vote from digitalmez for now. I have to make sure of something.
I am tired of this, nobody is coming up with any evidence of any sort. I already put through my arguments but I found them later to be poor so I am going to just abstain. Yes abstaining can be considered lazy but we have no votes. Not one. I know JK is writing a post and I will wait to see what it is but as for now I find the amount of discussion not happening even by those that were alerted to the thread low. VERY low.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
I really wish I could disagree with the time-limit set in place; the day hasn't felt likes in gone that long and feels like a lot could be done, plus everyone had (or still is since I'm still having some problems) with the alert system since that's one of the primary ways to watch the thread... but I can't disagree can I? :c
Anyways, I had been writing this up earlier anyways, but I stopped because I wanted a bit of confirmation before I went along and posted it, and really, I guess, now that I look back on it, this is less on an idea and more just a way to get an an easier idea of who probably are Anti-Town based on trust, and facts we may/may not already know.
So, as it stands, there's exactly 11 of us left; and out of those 11 the majority of us are primarily power-roles:
Town:
- 1 Cop
- 1 Vigilante
- 1 Copycat
- 1 Mayor
- 2 Lucky Civilians
- 2 Normal Civilians
Anti-Town:
- 1 skeleton
- 1 Zombie (Mafia)
- 1 Pleaser (Mafia)
And this leaves us with a ratio of 8 townies to 3 Anti-townies, which at the moment are great odds, and due to the increased chance that the most kills, that being 3 per night, we probably aren't going to get better chances to actually take any "smart" risks, which at the moment seeing as we are (somewhat? I don't think so.), I think a risk is probably exactly what we need to actually get somewhere right now.
This plan essentially is all based on trust in the belief that we can confirm specific people are most likely town.
I believe I can confirm 4 people in the list of remaining players of most likely being townsided, which leaves us at a BETTER possibility of choosing a member of the Mafia with a choice of around 7 people compared to the 11; ...but seeing as the copycat (because again I've basically been saying all this time that I was copied! D:<) doesn't want their identity revealed, I don't want to be mentioning him, which increases the pool of potential anti-town to 8 instead.
Here's a list of the pool with players taken out with the ability to TRUST or BELIEVE that these players are probably town-sided:
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1.Defiant_Blob What's this? Died by BEES! Night 1. Doctor.
2. Dessern5[Replacing vati180]
3. Kylieanna[Replacing superstein]
4. Nottykitten
5.The road to ruin Too much hydration. Night 2. Enderman.
6. balloon98
7. HypeBurst
8.ansoro2112- Mauled by Enderman. Night 2. Civilian.
9.77_is_the_best Stabbed via sword. Day 2. Civilian.
10. Ltin
11. HarmakPaul
12. Old_Man_Oak_63
13.xXxFruitNinjaxXx Fire was not safe. Night 1. Civilian.
14.jeff0521 Said wrong thing at the wrong time. Night 3. Traitor.
15.storm886 History repeats itself. Day 1. Civilian.
16.Sploorky- Stabbed by Vigilante. Night 2. Civilian.
17. JKangaroo
18.Jivvi Tussled with Skeleton and lost. Night 3. Contact.
19. grimmjowforever[Replacing DillonSaysRawr]
20. digitalmez
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I took away my vote for digital as well as my suspicions of Ltin purely based on the fact that, seeing as it has been confirmed that ALL killing power-roles (Vigilante, Serial Killer, and Mafia) have killed, or at least attacked each night without fail, so we know that none of them have been "pleasured" enough to stop their attack that night. Because of this fact, it can safely be assumed they are town-sided seeing as they already noted they both were pleasured, Digital on the previous night, and Ltin tonight (statements on a previous page).
I included myself, because seeing as it is confirmed that the Copycat has not joined the Mafia (since we would have known from Alpha) and that the copycat copied myself, I hope I'm trustworthy enough to be placed there; that and the fact that I know my role, but whether or not you want to believe I could be the SK/another role then I don't really mind if you want to keep me in that pool, but that increases the pool choice to 9 and honestly that just gives us a decreased chance of catching the Anti-town.
I also left out Notty here based on a number of suspicions and statements he/she made previously which I am doubtful of their claimed role as actually true based on what those statements entailed.
Oak also claimed civilian at one point, quietly and subtlety, but I still think there's too much suspicion and a chance that he could be Anti-town to risk that.
...
Now, anyways, with the idea, seeing as we can shorten the pool of suspected players down to 8 (or 7, seeing as I REALLY wish the copycat would let me reveal who they are to shorten that list even further), this leaves us with a greater possibility of finding a Anti-town.
With these variables in mind, this is probably where I actually... think I can agree on the previous plan done by Notty, seeing as, should the cop actually know any roles, we can shorten this list even further!
Think about it, if the cop actually knows, maybe upwards to the total of 3 players, we could shorten that pool of potential Anti-town to FOUR (5) people, (FOUR (4) if the copycat shows who they are) That means only two (possibly 1!) of those players can be town!
Even if the cop knows less, its beneficial, since it still lowers the pool.
I for one, would rather have the Vigilante taking down targets we can safely suspect to be Anti-town rather than taking pot-shots at people we could probably consider innocent.
...Of course this only works if the Cop knows anything at all. If he/she doesn't I would rather have them keep quiet, because there is still that possibility all of their known-roles were from people who died. :x
Now, anyways, I think we should probably start looking at players in this pool and start deducing whether or not we can trust them...
So:
-Dessern
-Kylieanna
-Notty
-Balloon
-Hypeburst
-Harmak
-Oak
-And Grimjow
In my opinion, though I have no way to back this up/prove anything, I feel I can trust Notty, Balloon, and Grimjow to an extent. I have hunches on who they actually are, but I don't know if they are true.
So, for me, I would only have to choose between Oak, Harmak, Hype, Kylie, and Dess, so 5 players. Still a good chance of killing an anti-town.
So, based on these chances, I think I'll vote to lynch Hypeburst.
As in the words of my colleague: "He just seems, TOO innocent to be innocent."
Again, this is all based on chance and trust, because again, I feel we have to start taking risks at this point, especially with how stagnant the recent posts have been in terms of discussion.
Anyways, I had been writing this up earlier anyways, but I stopped because I wanted a bit of confirmation before I went along and posted it, and really, I guess, now that I look back on it, this is less on an idea and more just a way to get an an easier idea of who probably are Anti-Town based on trust, and facts we may/may not already know.
So, as it stands, there's exactly 11 of us left; and out of those 11 the majority of us are primarily power-roles:
Town:
- 1 Cop
- 1 Vigilante
- 1 Copycat
- 1 Mayor
- 2 Lucky Civilians
- 2 Normal Civilians
Anti-Town:
- 1 skeleton
- 1 Zombie (Mafia)
- 1 Pleaser (Mafia)
And this leaves us with a ratio of 8 townies to 3 Anti-townies, which at the moment are great odds, and due to the increased chance that the most kills, that being 3 per night, we probably aren't going to get better chances to actually take any "smart" risks, which at the moment seeing as we are (somewhat? I don't think so.), I think a risk is probably exactly what we need to actually get somewhere right now.
This plan essentially is all based on trust in the belief that we can confirm specific people are most likely town.
I believe I can confirm 4 people in the list of remaining players of most likely being townsided, which leaves us at a BETTER possibility of choosing a member of the Mafia with a choice of around 7 people compared to the 11; ...but seeing as the copycat (because again I've basically been saying all this time that I was copied! D:<) doesn't want their identity revealed, I don't want to be mentioning him, which increases the pool of potential anti-town to 8 instead.
Here's a list of the pool with players taken out with the ability to TRUST or BELIEVE that these players are probably town-sided:
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2. Dessern5[Replacing vati180]
3. Kylieanna[Replacing superstein]
4. Nottykitten
5.
6. balloon98
7. HypeBurst
8.
9.
11. HarmakPaul
12. Old_Man_Oak_63
13.
14.
15.
16.
18.
19. grimmjowforever[Replacing DillonSaysRawr]
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I took away my vote for digital as well as my suspicions of Ltin purely based on the fact that, seeing as it has been confirmed that ALL killing power-roles (Vigilante, Serial Killer, and Mafia) have killed, or at least attacked each night without fail, so we know that none of them have been "pleasured" enough to stop their attack that night. Because of this fact, it can safely be assumed they are town-sided seeing as they already noted they both were pleasured, Digital on the previous night, and Ltin tonight (statements on a previous page).
I included myself, because seeing as it is confirmed that the Copycat has not joined the Mafia (since we would have known from Alpha) and that the copycat copied myself, I hope I'm trustworthy enough to be placed there; that and the fact that I know my role, but whether or not you want to believe I could be the SK/another role then I don't really mind if you want to keep me in that pool, but that increases the pool choice to 9 and honestly that just gives us a decreased chance of catching the Anti-town.
I also left out Notty here based on a number of suspicions and statements he/she made previously which I am doubtful of their claimed role as actually true based on what those statements entailed.
Oak also claimed civilian at one point, quietly and subtlety, but I still think there's too much suspicion and a chance that he could be Anti-town to risk that.
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Now, anyways, with the idea, seeing as we can shorten the pool of suspected players down to 8 (or 7, seeing as I REALLY wish the copycat would let me reveal who they are to shorten that list even further), this leaves us with a greater possibility of finding a Anti-town.
With these variables in mind, this is probably where I actually... think I can agree on the previous plan done by Notty, seeing as, should the cop actually know any roles, we can shorten this list even further!
Think about it, if the cop actually knows, maybe upwards to the total of 3 players, we could shorten that pool of potential Anti-town to FOUR (5) people, (FOUR (4) if the copycat shows who they are) That means only two (possibly 1!) of those players can be town!
Even if the cop knows less, its beneficial, since it still lowers the pool.
I for one, would rather have the Vigilante taking down targets we can safely suspect to be Anti-town rather than taking pot-shots at people we could probably consider innocent.
...Of course this only works if the Cop knows anything at all. If he/she doesn't I would rather have them keep quiet, because there is still that possibility all of their known-roles were from people who died. :x
Now, anyways, I think we should probably start looking at players in this pool and start deducing whether or not we can trust them...
So:
-Dessern
-Kylieanna
-Notty
-Balloon
-Hypeburst
-Harmak
-Oak
-And Grimjow
In my opinion, though I have no way to back this up/prove anything, I feel I can trust Notty, Balloon, and Grimjow to an extent. I have hunches on who they actually are, but I don't know if they are true.
So, for me, I would only have to choose between Oak, Harmak, Hype, Kylie, and Dess, so 5 players. Still a good chance of killing an anti-town.
So, based on these chances, I think I'll vote to lynch Hypeburst.
As in the words of my colleague: "He just seems, TOO innocent to be innocent."
Again, this is all based on chance and trust, because again, I feel we have to start taking risks at this point, especially with how stagnant the recent posts have been in terms of discussion.
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