TeamSpeak Issue with Others (Not just for me, for Everyone)

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

I feel like I should make this thread to help everyone that isn't aware of this tune into it, as it is bugging the shit out of me lately as a lot of people are doing this.

So you've got dis fancy new program called TeamSpeak and you're well familiarized with Blocktopia. You want to join someone's private room or premade room, so you ask the creator or someone in the room.

"We only let known friends into our channel."

This has been said way too fucking often. If you deny this fact, then whatever, but what you can't deny is the fact that it has probably happened to you or to someone else you know.

I mean, in all honesty, how many times have you had this said to you in some form and your reaction is this:

This needs to stop sooner or later for mine and way more countless people's sanities. This quote is ridiculous people, it's like the worst alienation you could imagine, especially if it happens often. If a friend many people know suddenly isn't a friend anymore because of something or someone, or a new person comes in and gets told that, then how are they going to make friends and, in the grand scheme of things, how are YOU going to make friends? You won't.

So ladies and gentlemen,

Personal Preferences won't get you a lot of friends. Personal Acceptance and friendliness will. This is being created to spread awareness about this issue. Thank you for your time.

-Snap

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Mostly directed to the private channels, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened in public channels occasionally as well.

 

[JayApple]

I thought you got over this? Didn't we talk about it. That no means no? Not a lot of people say "We only let known friends into our channel." cause that's kinda dickish. I don't see why you take it so seriously when you're not allowed in a Private channel. If people don't want to let you in, then that's that. It's no big deal. :)

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Remember, Jappa, it's not so much me but also for other people that have this problem.

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Mostly directed to the private channels, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened in public channels occasionally as well.

Well, the guy (or girl) may have been a little harsh when they told you, but they are private channels, and ultimately the people in there first can decide who can join and who can't. It's perfectly fine that they don't want people they don't really know into their channels.

This may be golden, but what if everyone did this at some point and a total nooby came on? That's a problem for a lot of people.

 

[Ronaldo]

Mostly directed to the private channels, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened in public channels occasionally as well.

Well, the guy (or girl) may have been a little harsh when they told you, but they are private channels, and ultimately the people in there first can decide who can join and who can't. It's perfectly fine that they don't want people they don't really know into their channels.

This may be golden, but what if everyone did this at some point and a total nooby came on? That's a problem for a lot of people.

If this were the case, then users wouldn't be using the convo room for what it was actually intended for most likely. Not to mention that we have a limited amount of private rooms for a few reasons.

 

[Cstar]

Mostly directed to the private channels, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened in public channels occasionally as well.

Well, the guy (or girl) may have been a little harsh when they told you, but they are private channels, and ultimately the people in there first can decide who can join and who can't. It's perfectly fine that they don't want people they don't really know into their channels.

This may be golden, but what if everyone did this at some point and a total nooby came on? That's a problem for a lot of people.

Exactly why would would a "total nooby" go straight to a private room?... This threads seems more for your own benifit rather than others

EDIT: Please give me examples of anyone else who seems to have this EXACT SAME PROBLEM SnapFlash

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Sure, that may be true at some extent, but what if they are or were being abused this way? There's no way to prevent this abuse.

EDIT: No, it's not just for me, CStar, there are others besides me that have this problem.

 

[Undefined User 7]

Remember, Jappa, it's not so much me but also for other people that have this problem.

Snap this is very much your problem, you yourself have complained to me on several occasions. The fact of the matter is private rooms are where people go to be left alone. Sure they have others along with them, but that is because they wish to be private. In many cases, it is not for confidentiality, but that is not the point. People wish to be in their groups, and while it is certainly undesirable to be left out of a group, it is a reality of life. Cliques are a natural part of all communities, Blocktopia is no exception. In many instances the cliques mix and hang out together, such as the community meetings or for community events such as Gmod. However, groups will eventually want time to be alone by themselves. It lets the groups recharge and have fun within their clique. It is unfair to us as a group for you to continually put pressure on us asking to join a place where you are clearly not wanted. It creates tension, it makes us feel awkward, and it just hurts the atmosphere. Snap, you must learn the meaning of the word 'no'. If a group has rejected you, you may either find another or start your own. You will not find acceptance through continually badgering people into paying attention to you! To do so will only embitter and anger those you are trying to associate with.

I have no pull in that I am not an admin, but the existence of private rooms is a very useful and vital function of our teamspeak server. I do not understand the point of your thread. Do you mean to suggest that all people should be allowed in cliques and conversations that are not confidential? I believe that is ridiculous.

 

[Jayp94]

it's almost like they're private channels

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Remember, Jappa, it's not so much me but also for other people that have this problem.

Snap this is very much your problem.

Lemme rephrase that: It's not just for me but for others.

 

[RyanDodd]

Is this because you don't get allowed into channels and are mad? Because I don't exactly think this is a topic that deserves an entire thread. It's like me making a thread because I can't see someone's private message.

 

[Undefined User 7]

Remember, Jappa, it's not so much me but also for other people that have this problem.

Snap this is very much your problem.

Lemme rephrase that: It's not just for me but for others.

It seems you are trying to take your personal problem and disguise it as a community-wide issue.

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

I seriously beg to differ, yes it's addressing me, I'm not going to deny that, but it's also addressing anyone that is or has having the same problem as I was/am.

 

[RyanDodd]

This isn't a problem at all. It's just you being mad because people don't want to talk to you at that specific moment.

 

[Undefined User 7]

I seriously beg to differ, yes it's addressing me, I'm not going to deny that, but it's also addressing anyone that is or has having the same problem as I was/am.

Could you please list other instances of this problem? I'm sure you could name at least 1, as you must have done some research before this thread to ensure it was a community issue.

 

[Sploorky]

Ok, admin post inbound.

A convo room is for private conversations in which they do not want anybody to join. That is simple.

In my personal opinion, the big cliques that only stick to convo rooms shouldn't do so, especially when it gets to the point when they are moving people in because they've reached the 6 person limit. Which I should probably start cracking down on...but nonetheless.

But what I said above is still my personal opinion. Which means this is my final stance on it:

If you're in a convo room, you're entailed to turn down anybody who asks because it's a privacy room.

If you're under 6 people, you can use a convo room and not be bothered about it.

About it being because "we only let friends in", that is just word choice, isn't it? Maybe not the most tactful of ways, but it's straightforward and not bullshitting, and that's the majestic thing about word choice, it conveys what you want to get across.

So uh..yeah, not changing anything, besides the probable rightful crackdown on people moving each other into convo rooms to get past the 6 person max. Sploorky out.

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

Biblius, what you're asking of me is to provide something that I don't regularly ask people for in the first place, and to top that off this isn't about specific people, it's about the people this has or is happening/happened to.

 

[RyanDodd]

Biblius, what you're asking of me is to provide something that I don't regularly ask people for in the first place, and to top that off this isn't about specific people, it's about the people this has or is happening/happened to.

If you can't name a specific person then how do you know that others are having this so called 'problem'?

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

It's one of those things that you just know. I really don't know a better way to explain it. I'm sorry if this comes across as an inconvenience, but yeah.

 

[Undefined User 7]

Biblius, what you're asking of me is to provide something that I don't regularly ask people for in the first place, and to top that off this isn't about specific people, it's about the people this has or is happening/happened to.

That's highly illogical. Do you mean to tell me that you did not investigate to see if this was a community problem? Could this have not been sent in a private message to the administrators, as with many singular cases? What compels you to post a thread detailing how we as a community must change policy? I'm sorry, but it seems as if you made this thread to complain about one group saying you couldn't join their room. I think such a case is no reason to question policy.

It's one of those things that you just know. I really don't know a better way to explain it. I'm sorry if this comes across as an inconvenience, but yeah.

Then you have no evidence other than your own specific experience with a single group? Or have you not looked for any before posting?

 

[OldAcctSnapFlash]

It's just something I know will happen to other besides me. Enough said, I'm tired of arguing against 13+ people, it gets very slow very quickly. G'Night.

 

[Psycho]

I don't have any friends on Teamspeak so that's why I don't get on it.

 

[midnightgirl24]

I've yet to have this happen to me. I always ask, and if they say no, I understand and respect that. It may be, like most cases, it is something private. It would really help your case if you actually provided evidence, like Biblius said earlier.

 

[Sploorky]

However, I would like to say(which I may have stolen from aleeyana, but she said it perfectly):

SnapFlash I am very sorry you have felt alienated in this community before, it's really not what we strive for. Perhaps a better course of action would be to play on our servers, meet friends from there, and invite them to teamspeak to speak with you? To reiterate the point I made above: I'm not going to force people out of convo rooms or not make them private, but joining to a teamspeak server where you can't join any public room because noone is in it is definitely not what I wish to happen. In the end, Biblius is right that a lot of times, people fall back on cliques, but hey, that is why we have Friday meetings and events, so everyone gets to meet up with one another and hang out as a group!