MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

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Ansoro2112

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I'm worried about you two voting for Pim.

vote Pim
For me, it's simply on the basis that he hasn't even responded since the CC. If he is Cop, then at least we can kill inferno next night.
First, I understand you Mario when you're saying "If Pim turns out to be the real Cop after we kill him then we'll know Inferno was lying". But that's where I found the problem, we can't really afford to lose someone. 1 town person dying can make the difference in this game. And we're not just talking about a normal citizen role. We're talking about the Cop Role. Which is extremely important. Yes, Pim is inactive but he can show up at any moment.

You know what, I'm going to take inferno's word on this and
(Can't bold) vote Pim
Mysteriously inactive and false claim which appears as an attempt to save hype

(I'll bold the vote when I get home)


And Fruit, it worries me a lot that you're taking Inferno's word that easily.

  • Pim claims cop
  • Says Inferno is the Hangman
  • Inferno admits he's indeed the Hangman
  • Pim goes inactive
  • Inferno reveals everything was just a plan and he's the real cop
Yes, there might exist a possibilty of Infenro being the cop. But n my opinion I highly doubt it.
And you say Pim was "protecting" HypeBurst. But I don't see it that way, Pim said this:
So, I would say Myuser is Mafia, along with Ansoro.
Which means HypeBurst is innocent.

Pim was saying IN CASE Myusername turned out to be mafia then I would be mafia too. Therefore Hype would by innocent. He wasn't saying he was 100% sure HypeBurst was inno.

So it's weird that both of you are risking the cop's role when we clearly said to vote for the ones who claimed civilian. That was the point of everyone claiming.
 

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MarsKid, do you want to continue being the host? If not, then I would like Gmk to take your place.

You can PM Gmk with everyone's role so he's aware of what's happening so he can finish hosting the game.
I would be up for that. MarsKid - let me know your decision.
 

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infernofox May I know any specific things I've done or? Ye can, if you are the day-cop, investigate me today or tomorrow (not sure if you used today's one or not) My vote stays on Jivvi for now. When I get on my laptop later today/tomorrow I need to look at something but the person who I vaguely remember might be dead already or an un-CC'd role (which are still suspicious due to janitor) but for now we can presume:

One out of Pim and inferno is mafia/third party.
Protecting roles MUST choose who to protect wisely, we're in a delicate situation with several roles revealed.
And I'll do the maths for citizens later/tomorrow since I'm slightly busy at the moment.
Un-CC'd roles are not fully clear due to Janitor.
 

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I'm worried about you two voting for Pim.

vote Pim
For me, it's simply on the basis that he hasn't even responded since the CC. If he is Cop, then at least we can kill inferno next night.
First, I understand you Mario when you're saying "If Pim turns out to be the real Cop after we kill him then we'll know Inferno was lying". But that's where I found the problem, we can't really afford to lose someone. 1 town person dying can make the difference in this game. And we're not just talking about a normal citizen role. We're talking about the Cop Role. Which is extremely important. Yes, Pim is inactive but he can show up at any moment.

You know what, I'm going to take inferno's word on this and
(Can't bold) vote Pim
Mysteriously inactive and false claim which appears as an attempt to save hype

(I'll bold the vote when I get home)
And Fruit, it worries me a lot that you're taking Inferno's word that easily.

  • Pim claims cop
  • Says Inferno is the Hangman
  • Inferno admits he's indeed the Hangman
  • Pim goes inactive
  • Inferno reveals everything was just a plan and he's the real cop
Yes, there might exist a possibilty of Infenro being the cop. But n my opinion I highly doubt it.
And you say Pim was "protecting" HypeBurst. But I don't see it that way, Pim said this:
So, I would say Myuser is Mafia, along with Ansoro.
Which means HypeBurst is innocent.

Pim was saying IN CASE Myusername turned out to be mafia then I would be mafia too. Therefore Hype would by innocent. He wasn't saying he was 100% sure HypeBurst was inno.

So it's weird that both of you are risking the cop's role when we clearly said to vote for the ones who claimed civilian. That was the point of everyone claiming.
I mean, I understand what you're saying, but it's obvious one of them isn't what they say they are. Inferno could easily as a hangman, as he does not propose an immediate threat to us, so there is no reason to really try to cover up that role with a false counter claim. I don't know why he went along with it, he should have claimed on the spot. So I don't know who to believe, but sometimes you just have to hope.

I would like to post something I have thought about posting before, but haven't yet because all of it doesn't make sense.

Day 2: there was the entire Road/Hunter/Ansoro situation. While I did push on road the most, In my experience the mafia isn't usually the straightforward attacking guy it's often the one backing him up which is why I investigated Ansoro, unfortunately he also turned up citizen, However, at the time, I suspected he was probably just the commander so I didn't completely think him innocent then. Now that we know Grimm was the commander we can be certain of Ansoro's innocence

Day3: I suspected grim so Investigated her. Still suspecting Ansoro of being the commander, I just let the suspicion go and now I regret not pursuing it any further ><

Then finally today I managed to get lucky and actually caught HypeBurst who on investigation turned up as Sariou Soldier. I immediately changed my vote from Ooglie to Hype hoping more people would join in but not much of anything really happened. If we can just lynch Hype today we'll at least be one step closer to ridding the town of scum!
I believe in myusername.

Ha! One of my guesses is right. HypeBurst. Check! =)

Gurl, of course I'm innocent :m Notty remove your vote kk.

Can't use bold.

Vote HypeBurst

This game have some hope.
As you can see here, it is obvious that ansoro would see that myuser, is a fake cop. Why? Because myuser says he is a citizen, but then ansoro claims as the Princess. Yet he still goes along with the lynch. If he knows myuser is fake, then why carry out to lynch hype? It's obvious that ansoro must have known that Hype was mafia. The only way that is possible is he must be mafia, right? Then I ask why no one has counter claimed him, unless one of the two killed the night the spy blocked was the princess, I'm not 100% sure of this, but is the spy told the information of the night he blocked? because if so, then you could have easily taken one of their roles. If not, then I see no reason why you went through with the vote on Hype, ansoro2112 please explain, because for now:

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First of all I'm not the Princess. I'm the QUEEN :m

Yes, I believed in Myusername22. Even when he said I was a citizen. This is what I thought: Myusername22 investigated me but he wasn't going to risk telling everyone that I'm the Queen, or else he'll just put a target on my back, so he just said I was a normal citizen to "protect" me. Since there's no reason to reveal I'm the Queen.

Now, I wasn't going to say,"No! Don't believe in Myusername! Because I'm the Queen!". I wasn't going to fall for that trap either.

I also believed in him because there were no cc for a while. Until Pim claimed cop.

My reasons why I voted for HypeBurst:

-Myusername saying he's Sarious Soldier.
- After Grim was killed I immediately read back and saw a connection between Hype and Grim that made me think he's indeed mafia.

It was a risky move from my part but I usually trust my gut.

And I am aware that no one knows Alpha's or Brownlee's role. Therefore the ones that claimed PR are not 100% inno since they can be taking their roles and act like they're a PR.
But I'm the Queen. I can tell you that. And if I get lynched it's going to be a huge lose for the town members because I can protect anyone I want. And that's what they need right now since everyone claimed already.

Again, why are you after the ones who have a PR?
 

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You can't really trust a claim, as you can see with the 3 cop claims we've had so far.

It seems Jivvi is the one who seems to be attracting attention, but I just don't see Jivvi as mafia. Obviously some of the citizens have to be fake, but there is a good chance we take out the wrong citizen.

I'm not going for power roles purposely, they are just the ones that I have formed suspicion enough on to vote for.
 

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King unCC'd - K1ng
Captain DEAD - GmK
Prince CC'd - Pim and Inferno
Father unCC'D - Priz
Queen unCC'd - Ansoro
James unCC'd - Brainless
Neighbor DEAD - Sploorky
Citizen x14 - DEAD Ltin, road, std, coolio, Thy, Myuser, Natsu (7 cit)

Commander- APPEARS AT CITIZEN IN INVESTIGATIONS DEAD (little thing I noticed when looking back at role effects) - grimm but Defender moves up, then Oak died which means Spy moves up into Commander
Defender - Oak which means Spy moved up and Sariou now moves up
Spy - Moved up which means last Sariou moves up to Spy
Brawler DEAD - Hunter which means last Sariou soldier moves up
Sariou Soldier x2 - Hype

Serial Killer
Hangman
Freelancer DEAD - NITASU

(got this from Inferno's post last page)

2. infernofox - Cop
3. Da Jinks - Citizen
4. Nottykitten - Citizen
5. Pim - Cop
6. K1ngHoward - King/Doc (quite ironic)
9. ansoro2112 - Queen/Bodyguard
10. Ooglie101 - Citizen
11. 77_is_the_best - citizen
21. mariosatr - Citizen
22. Jivvi - Citizen
26. storm886 - Citizen
29. xXxFruitNinjaxXx - citizen
30. Prizyms - Roleblock
31. Brainless - James









This means that we can confirm AT LEAST one Citizen is scum but if it is the Commander which appears as Citizen in investigations then it's no use.
From the night when the Spy blocked the death info two people died: Alpha and Brownlee.
There are several situations that arrive from this.
a. Both were citizens meaning there is 3 scum in the pool of citizens and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
b. One was citizen, one was mafia meaning there is only one mafia member left and 2 scum in the pool of citizens and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
c. One was citizen, one was a PR meaning there is 2 scum in the pool of citizens, 1 scum in the unCC'd and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
d. One was a PR, one was a mafia meaning there is only one mafia member left and 1 scum in the pool of citizens (as it is already), 1 scum in the unCC'd and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
e. Both were PRs meaning there is 1 scum in the pool of citizens (as it is already) and 2 scum in the unCC'd and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
f. One was the Hangman, one was a citizen meaning there is 2 scum in the citizen pool and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
g. One was the Hangman, one was a PR meaning there is 1 scum (as it is) in the citizen pool, 1 scum in the unCC'd and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
h. One was the Hangman, one was mafia meaning there is 1 scum (as it is) in the citizen pool and that leaves Pim or Inferno to be the remaining scum.
I think that's it since the Serial Killer must still be alive due to the other nights activities:
N4: Cooliorules (Citizen) killed by Mafia, grimmjowforever (Commander) killed by Serial Killer, Thymos (Citizen) dead by inactivity
However on last's night activity:
N5: Myusername22 (Citizen) killed by Mafia, Natsu (Citizen) dead by inactivity, Old_Man_Oak_63 (Defender) dead by inactivity.
This means that the Serial Killer...
a. Did not kill
b. Hit a protected player
c. Was blocked
So, did you block anyone last night Priz? But this could also be because of the Mafia if 2 Mafia are still alive since the remaining Mafia members, if my Maths is right, is the Commander and Defender whom has the ability to block roles (Commander was old Spy, Defender was remaining Sariou Soldier) If they did hit a blocked player I would suggest that the King and Queen swap around the people they were defending since if I remember correctly they can't defend the same person a night, I don't know.
It felt satisfying writing that, all of my ideals spooling out.
tl;dr: Read it, lazy.
 

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One thing to know for sure, Pim or Inferno are scum. We will only find out if we choose to lynch one of them, but that is very very dangerous. We are better off not killing either one of them, actually. If one of them dies during the night, we have a target for the next day. I'm still quite suspicious of ansoro though, but I am going to:
(Can't bold)
UNVOTE
and
ABSTAIN
 

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Commander- APPEARS AT CITIZEN IN INVESTIGATIONS DEAD (little thing I noticed when looking back at role effects) - grimm but Defender moves up, then Oak died which means Spy moves up into Commander
Defender - Oak which means Spy moved up and Sariou now moves up
Spy - Moved up which means last Sariou moves up to Spy
Brawler DEAD - Hunter which means last Sariou soldier moves up
Sariou Soldier x2 - Hype

This means that we can confirm AT LEAST one Citizen is scum but if it is the Commander which appears as Citizen in investigations then it's no use.
The commander is dead, as you said. But I think you have it wrong. The "moving up" isnt wether another mafia loses their ability and gains the commanders, it is just the order of leaders. Normally the commander can give the final call. Now hes dead, and the defender is dead too, it means that the spy can now give the final call on who to kill during the night. But I don't think he will gain the commanders powers and turn up as inno.

Vote Count
Jivvi- 3 (Nottykitten, Ansoro2112 & Ooglie101) [5 left]
Prizyms- 2 (Jivvi & Brainless) [6 left]
Pim- 1 (Mariosatr) [7 left]
Nottykitten- 2 (Prizyms & K1ngHoward) [6 left]
Storm886- 1 (Storm886) [7 left]
Abstain- 1(xXxFruitNinjaxXx)
With 1 abstaining, we look at *13* players left. Half of 13 is 6.5. Lynching always has to be a majority, so lynching still takes 7 votes. Which means we need two more abstains to make lynching take 6 votes. Correct me if I'm wrong here.​
 

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Jivvi- 3 (Nottykitten, Ansoro2112 & Ooglie101) [5 left]
Prizyms- 2 (Jivvi & Brainless) [6 left]
Pim- 1 (Mariosatr) [7 left]
Nottykitten- 3 (Prizyms, K1ngHoward & infernofox ) [5 left]
Storm886- 1 (Storm886) [7 left]
Abstain- 1(xXxFruitNinjaxXx)​
Please explain to me what I am doing wrong here to seem suspicious? I might have done some suspicious acts on day 1 and day 2. But after that I don't think I've done much wrong =S.​
 

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Commander- APPEARS AT CITIZEN IN INVESTIGATIONS DEAD (little thing I noticed when looking back at role effects) - grimm but Defender moves up, then Oak died which means Spy moves up into Commander
Defender - Oak which means Spy moved up and Sariou now moves up
Spy - Moved up which means last Sariou moves up to Spy
Brawler DEAD - Hunter which means last Sariou soldier moves up
Sariou Soldier x2 - Hype

This means that we can confirm AT LEAST one Citizen is scum but if it is the Commander which appears as Citizen in investigations then it's no use.
The commander is dead, as you said. But I think you have it wrong. The "moving up" isnt wether another mafia loses their ability and gains the commanders, it is just the order of leaders. Normally the commander can give the final call. Now hes dead, and the defender is dead too, it means that the spy can now give the final call on who to kill during the night. But I don't think he will gain the commanders powers and turn up as inno.
So does this mean that the 'commander' has investigation immunity or not?
MarsKid ?
 
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