Supernatural Hotel [Finished]

[Fiestaguy]

We can always lynch one of them, so that we don't accidentally lynch a town PR today. *cough*me*cough*

If the town wants that, we can do that. But for now I'm gonna do something else.

Absolutely nowhere on Day 1 did you point out or worded any suspicion towards me. The closest thing you got was "However i do not Trust Notty anymore than i do you. I vote Mmarz".

And then suddenly this day you go with an almost instant vote on me right after you saw someone else vote on me[ender]. To be fair you seem really quick and jumpy with your votes which is really suspicious. And then you suddenly are super suspicious of me today for "everything of yesterday" while not saying 1 word about it yesterday? If I was so suspicious then why did you happily go along with my No Lynch idea and not speak 1 word against me?

I'm pretty confident about this.
Vote Fiestaguy​

With "Everything" from yesterday, I meant EVERYTHING, that Everyone said. I claim it was a coincidence of me voring for the same person at the same time

 

[Fiestaguy]

The bandwagon from fiesta was... unexpected, to say the least. I honestly didn't think anyone would follow me and instead expected a shitstorm falling on me, and I have no idea what to think of it right now.

If I would begin all over, not taking anything from the previous da into account... Fiesta would certainly ring some bells for me. I can see him here and there in the thread, but he's not exactly contributing much, instead he seems to be following whoever else made a somewhat convincing argument right before him. I haven't looked or even skimmed over his every post right now, but as far as I remember, he hasn't said anything worthwhile, instead he has nodded along with the others. It may, of course be that he's just a confused new player, and he's just going along with everyone because he can't think of anything better himself and all our arguments seems pretty plausible and believable to him, but there is a certain level of suspiciousness that I sense on him after something like that.

About the false Guest, it's probably someone who claimed Guest after most people had already claimed, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, because the risk of getting CCd and therefore labeled at least somewhat suspicious would've been too great. So, since Ltin claimed somewhere in the middle, it would leave us with Ooglie, who was already noted (by Mmarz, I think) for being suspicious, although if I remember correct, the reasons weren't exactly the best. Also we'd have Hype and Coolio to check up on for possible false Guest, and Coolio was the last to claim Guest, so she'd probably be more likely to be the false claim than the others, but I'm honestly not sure about her, she just emits this naiveness and sort of special kind of towniness with every post she makes.

For now, I'm going to go and read up everything on fiesta, Ooglie, Hype and Coolio, considering how they just added their names into my ever-growing suspicion list.​

I didn't contribute much? Agreed, This is my first mafia game and i am very new to this, Same counts for the bandwagoning part.
I voyed for notty because i pretty much agreed with what the people said yesterday, Thus i voted for notty

 

[Enderfive]

In the scheme of things, I dont believe that using the time that people claimed as an arguement is very good. Amongst the last people to claim anything were Digi, Coolio and I, and we are all Australians and New Zealanders and that was purely because we were asleep when the whole claiming thing happened. I feel like I have to repeat myself every single fucking season because someone always seems to bring up that people are later than others in claiming, but also forget about a little thing called timezones. I understand Coolio's anger atm and I feel the same way.

Gee, I've no idea where everyone in the game lives, but you have to admit, there is no way the false guest would be among the first to claim or somewhere in the middle, because it would just bring too much attention to him, and considering that Guest claim is supposed to divert suspicion away from him, I don't see it likely that the scum role that claimed false Guest would claim unless he was completely or at least mostly certain that at least one of the Guests would claim PR.

 

[Fiestaguy]

I went back to make sure if Fiesta ever said something about you, Notty. And he didn't.

That does indeed seem like a really quick BW. Like if he's just going with the bunch. Which makes it very suspicious.

I want to wait first and see what Fiesta need to say about it.

I didn't say anything about notty because i had nothing to add to the arguments against Notty. Everyone already laid all arguments on the table, And i could do nothing to agree.
Do i need to find a new argument to a discussed-to-death subject to agree with it?

 

[Jivvi]

We can always lynch one of them, so that we don't accidentally lynch a town PR today. *cough*me*cough*

If the town wants that, we can do that. But for now I'm gonna do something else.

Absolutely nowhere on Day 1 did you point out or worded any suspicion towards me. The closest thing you got was "However i do not Trust Notty anymore than i do you. I vote Mmarz".

And then suddenly this day you go with an almost instant vote on me right after you saw someone else vote on me[ender]. To be fair you seem really quick and jumpy with your votes which is really suspicious. And then you suddenly are super suspicious of me today for "everything of yesterday" while not saying 1 word about it yesterday? If I was so suspicious then why did you happily go along with my No Lynch idea and not speak 1 word against me?

I'm pretty confident about this.
Vote Fiestaguy
With "Everything" from yesterday, I meant EVERYTHING, that Everyone said. I claim it was a coincidence of me voring for the same person at the same time

Between the lone kill last night, and this suicide post, may I bring up the goals of the ghost for everyone to consider?

 

[Jivvi]

Also, I'm a little suspicious of Endersteve insisting that he must be innocent to coolio, solely on the grounds that he made a mild defense for her.

 

[Fiestaguy]

Between the lone kill last night, and this suicide post, may I bring up the goals of the ghost for everyone to consider?

Please make clear how this is a suicide post.

 

[Enderfive]

Also, I'm a little suspicious of Endersteve insisting that he must be innocent to coolio, solely on the grounds that he made a mild defense for her.

That's not what I said. I just didn't understand why she got so angry about me pointing out she was the last to claim, when I said right after that I didn't think of her as suspicious.

The defense I made was because coolio said I looked suspicious to her, only because I use logic and 'everybode else' follows that logic. Innocent or not, I can't leave an accusation like this just go uncountered.

 

[Jeercrul]

Well crap, I've been out for a full day workshop and now I have pages to catch up on. Let me catch my breath for a few hours before I decide to post.

 

[digi]

I got a new job, so I'll be busy this week. Please give me the weekend to catch up.

 

[Ltin]

I realize it seems like the ansoro thing is over, but to me it seems like just a unlucky coincidence that the cop died.
Now to figure out this fiesta guy thing...

 

[Ltin]

Now iv looked into this fiesta thing a little bit, it seems to me thats he's not very suspicious either.
You guys must be really jumpy or something.

 

[Nottykitten]

I'm just going to put all of my cards onto the table here:
Endersteve5. Notice how everyone is being a lost sheep? We're following him, and that could be dangerous. He has a lot of logic, but if he convinces us to lycnh another town today, I'm going straight for him. He seems to be the main person that builds arguments and then people follow him. I don't like it.

That's not Enders fault at all, it's not his fault people act like sheep. He makes arguments and then the people agree with him, that's the peoples fault for not coming up with evidence/ideas of their own. In no way should he be suspicious because people listen to him unless it's 1 specific person that keeps agreeing with him.

 

[Nottykitten]

I didn't say anything about notty because i had nothing to add to the arguments against Notty. Everyone already laid all arguments on the table, And i could do nothing to agree.
Do i need to find a new argument to a discussed-to-death subject to agree with it?

So you did think I was suspicious yesterday, yet you didn't vote for me and mentioned nothing about you thinking the arguments against me make sense. You don't need a new argument but you could have atleast said something about it. But you didn't and because you suddenly voted me today, it seems like someone tonight changed your mind and told you not to go along with my ideas and be against me.

My vote stands.

 

[cooliorules]

That's not Enders fault at all, it's not his fault people act like sheep. He makes arguments and then the people agree with him, that's the peoples fault for not coming up with evidence/ideas of their own. In no way should he be suspicious because people listen to him unless it's 1 specific person that keeps agreeing with him.

He has too much power and people are depending on him too much. That's sort of what I meant

I was in music class and had to just sort of rush it, so it wasn't the best wording that I could've put.

 

[digi]

UGH WTF? I know it's a late reaction from me, but @myusername22 was a cop and he died?!!
WHICH OF YOU DID THIS?

 

[Nottykitten]

He has too much power and people are depending on him too much. That's sort of what I meant

I was in music class and had to just sort of rush it, so it wasn't the best wording that I could've put.

It's funny because that's exactly what you said of me too right here:

Notty seems to have a lot of power, we all followed Notty on the claiming idea, and it gives the Mafia an exact list of who could do them damage.

 

[cooliorules]

It's funny because that's exactly what you said of me too right here:

Because you did have quite a lot of power on your hands. That seems to have sort of disappeared, and all scattered (or mostly) to ender.

 

[Fiestaguy]

So you did think I was suspicious yesterday, yet you didn't vote for me and mentioned nothing about you thinking the arguments against me make sense. You don't need a new argument but you could have atleast said something about it. But you didn't and because you suddenly voted me today, it seems like someone tonight changed your mind and told you not to go along with my ideas and be against me.

My vote stands.

As said, I had nothing to add to the argument, I didn't vote for you because i had my suspicions on Mmarz when he lied. Now today i voted for notty for my own suspicions, As said, You initiated the vote for claiming, Now today, I voted for you and now you suddenly vote back at me because i voted somewhere first.

 

[cooliorules]

Also I can see the reason people think fiesta is scum. I'm in no way defending him, but in my first season I was a bit naive, didn't know what to do and made some pretty random votes (though I got fairly far in the game).

I just had a thought.

We know that out of Ltin, Hype, Ooglie and I, one of us is scum. I won't disclude myself from said statement because for all you guys know, it could be me (it's not though).
Ltin somewhat talks, but @Ooglie101 and @HypeBurst seem to be flying under the radar (as far as I've seen, sorry if I'm missing anything, I might be as most posts are a little rushed ;-; ). We seem to have completely forgotten that one of us 4 is mafia. We should try to find out who it is, because it's a 25% of lynching a scum if you choose one of us (or 33% if it's one of them )
If we're wrong, then damn. But then it's a 33% if you choose another (and same thing applies but 50% x3)
Let me do some stuff quickly:
Roles we've lost

• 1/4 Guests
• 2/2 Cops

That's 3 town roles. No mafia/supernaturals have gone yet. So that's 3/20 people gone and 3/12 of the town specifically. That's a quarter of our town gone.

Scenario 1:
We lynch from the PR's and they turn up town. 4/12 town gone, 4/20 players, 0/8 enemy.

Scenario 2:
We lynch from the PR's and they turn up mafia/supernatural (yay!) 3/12 town gone, 4/20 players, 1/8 enemy.

Scenario 3:
We lynch from the Guests and they turn up town. 4/12 town gone, 4/20 players, 0/8 enemy.

Scenario 4:
We lycnh from the Guests and they turn up mafia/supernatural (woo!). 3/12 town gone, 4/20 players, 1/8 enemy.

Scenario 5:
We No Lynch (stupid idea, imo)

These are the 5 events that could happen by the end of today. Scenario 2 and 4 are the best possible scenarios. BUT!
It's a much higher percentage that we kill off one of the enemy if we go with the Guests, as it's 25%. If we were to kill from the PR's, then it's ~7% 1(/13).
"Oh, but coolio every time that we kill a town, the percentage gets higher!"
I'd rather go with where we have the biggest chance that we have for now, rather then basically shooting in the dark (unless there is some evidence from whoever) and having it go up a slight bit.

Gee, I've no idea where everyone in the game lives, but you have to admit, there is no way the false guest would be among the first to claim or somewhere in the middle, because it would just bring too much attention to him, and considering that Guest claim is supposed to divert suspicion away from him, I don't see it likely that the scum role that claimed false Guest would claim unless he was completely or at least mostly certain that at least one of the Guests would claim PR.

And just to address this;

It's fair enough you don't know where everyone lives, and I know that you said "oh she was last to claim so she is more likely to be scum butbutbut" (or something like that), but what if I had a different role (any role, to be honest) and then someone else had Guest (like moi) and had timezone issues, and was the last Guest to claim and they seemed more suspicious? It doesn't only affect me, it also affects others.

Can we just not use anything like timing of posts to try to say "they seem scum like to me because it took ages for the to post"? You don't know what's happening in their lives, whether they have school or whatever.


~This was rushed because I have 2 assignment to start and finish tonight for tomorrow~
~Also, this weekend I'm full on with work, family stuff and school work, so I might be posting very little to none, just needed to get this off my chest while I could~

 

[cooliorules]

As said, I had nothing to add to the argument, I didn't vote for you because i had my suspicions on Mmarz when he lied. Now today i voted for notty for my own suspicions, As said, You initiated the vote for claiming, Now today, I voted for you and now you suddenly vote back at me because i voted somewhere first.

I can see the omgus in this situation, but your vote did seem bandwagony. There was little to no explanation, and that's one of the worst things you could do.
Just as a heads up, always good to explain your vote in the same post that you vote for them.

 

[Fiestaguy]

I can see the omgus in this situation, but your vote did seem bandwagony. There was little to no explanation, and that's one of the worst things you could do.
Just as a heads up, always good to explain your vote in the same post that you vote for them.

I'll try to do that from now on then, Sorry but i'm still new to this stuff and imo, I suck at this game. Not leaving yet tough! I'll just see what comes...

 

[Nottykitten]

Both quotes by fiesta guy:

"I didn't say anything about notty because i had nothing to add to the arguments against Notty. Everyone already laid all arguments on the table, And i could do nothing to agree.
Do i need to find a new argument to a discussed-to-death subject to agree with it?"

"I didn't vote for you because I had my suspicion on Mmarz when he lied."

Time travel anyone? Basicly all of the arguments made against me were made before Mmarz claimed. So you didn't vote me because you had suspicion on Mmarz, while Mmarz only claimed after all of the arguments which you agreed with? Quite odd. Want to explain?

 

[Fiestaguy]

Both quotes by fiesta guy:



Time travel anyone? Basicly all of the arguments made against me were made before Mmarz claimed. So you didn't vote me because you had suspicion on Mmarz, while Mmarz only claimed after all of the arguments which you agreed with? Quite odd. Want to explain?

Definitely, I'll explain.
I voted no lynch for then, But i read those arguments against Notty and you got suspicious in my eyes, But i decided to wait it out for a bit more, I MIGHT have forgotten to Unvote, But then Mmarz got out with his lie, THEN i voted for him, Ignoring you for then.

 

[cooliorules]

I feel somewhat proud of my large post :'))