Supernatural Hotel [Finished]

[cooliorules]

@Jivvi Fiesta wasn't voting himself, he was quoting someone who voted for him, the quote just messed up. I don't understand how that's so hard to see.

I agree with that, I don't see why some people didn't understand it T.T

 

[Fiestaguy]

I refuse to claim for now, Even if this makes me look scummy, If i claim i am the director then i contradict Ansoro so either me or ansoro are lying, If i say i am NOT the director, That just tells that i am another, More important role, Notty can just keep initiating claims (For SWAT, Doctor, Toymaker, etc) untill we know who is who,

For example, We got Person A, B, C, D, and Notty
Notty initiates vote for who is the floor 7 director,
Notty claims he is Not
A claims he is Not
B claims he is
C claims he is Not
D Claims he is Not

Next day notty initiates vote for who is the SWAT
Notty claims he is Not
A claims he is
B claims he is not
C claims he is not
D claims he is not

You can see where this is going, If we keep claiming the mafia will get a better and better picture of who are more important to kill, And who are not.
Due to notty orchestrating the Claiming plan from the beginning, My vote still stands for Notty as Mafia.

I refuse to claim from now on untill i've thinked about this some more.

My Vote remains on NottyKitten

 

[cooliorules]

That does make somewhat sense, fiesta. I'll think about it at youth and if I have anything to say, will post when I get back! C:

 

[Nottykitten]

Considering this and the fact that we don't have many people left to claim...

unvote

I was so sure already :c

@Ltin To be honest, that's not exactly scummy in my eyes. I mean, he was absolutely confident that anso is scum, so he wanted to make sure that he really is who he claims. I'll admit, I wouldn't have done exactly this, instead I would've just asked the ones Anso pointed out as Floor 7 if they are Floor 7, but I suppose he already had this idea in his head because of the previous claimround and stuff and thought it was a good idea.

@Jivvi Fiesta wasn't voting himself, he was quoting someone who voted for him, the quote just messed up. I don't understand how that's so hard to see.

It's the best way to do it though, lets say Jivvi was scum. He knew GmK and Hype were also in the room. Then he told his mafia buddies who were in the room. And then Ansoro could have claimed with this "proof". Therefor this is the only way to make sure x)

 

[Fiestaguy]

That does make somewhat sense, fiesta. I'll think about it at youth and if I have anything to say, will post when I get back! C:

I actually contributed to the argument?


So proud of myself :D

 

[Nottykitten]

Next day notty initiates vote for who is the SWAT
Notty claims he is Not
A claims he is
B claims he is not
C claims he is not
D claims he is not

You can see where this is going, If we keep claiming the mafia will get a better and better picture of who are more important to kill, And who are not.
Due to notty orchestrating the Claiming plan from the beginning, My vote still stands for Notty as Mafia.

I refuse to claim from now on untill i've thinked about this some more.

My Vote remains on NottyKitten

First, the only, and ONLY way I would make people claim SWAT is if someone claims SWAT and we need to know if he/she is not lying.

So tell me Fiesta, you'd rather have us being unable to trust ansoro because you don't want people to know for sure he is the floor 7 director. Where is the sense in this, where is the logic?

Ansoro already claimed. If he is not mafia then the mafia already know that he is the floor 7 director and therefor not any of the other PR's. So the only thing you are doing by not claiming is making us not able to trust Ansoro's claim.

Parts in bold to express my anger =c.

 

[Nottykitten]

I refuse to claim for now, Even if this makes me look scummy, If i claim i am the director then i contradict Ansoro so either me or ansoro are lying, If i say i am NOT the director, That just tells that i am another, More important role, Notty can just keep initiating claims (For SWAT, Doctor, Toymaker, etc) untill we know who is who,

According to your logic, we should vote Ansoro. Because according to you, I am:
- Exposing PR's
- Making the list of who is the swat/doctor/toymaker smaller
- Telling people who is not the director which is indirectly saying that they are another PR.

Ansoro does 100% that, so let's lynch him!
- Exposing PR's He claimed his role thus exposing a PR! ermg.
- Making the list of who is the swat/doctor/toymaker smaller. He claimed Floor 7 Director. Therefor anyone else has to be another PR.
- Telling people who is not the director which is indirectly saying that they are another PR. Again, HE CLAIMED. He says he is the Floor 7 Director so the mafia KNOWS that you are not the Floor 7 Director.

But here is a newsflash... I DONT. Because unlike the mafia the town doesn't know wether Ansoro is the true Floor 7 Director or not. For all I know he could be a mafia fake-claiming to be the Floor 7 Director. Lynch me for wanting to know for sure right?

 

[GmK]

Yes I'm in Floor 7, being better than all you filthy peasants tbh

Babe, we were supposed to wait with stating if we are on floor 7 until everybody claimed.

Well, now that the Paris is out of the sack, I can also confirm to be on Floor 7.

So much for our exclusivity in that splendor of room! :D

 

[Fiestaguy]

First, the only, and ONLY way I would make people claim SWAT is if someone claims SWAT and we need to know if he/she is not lying.
So tell me Fiesta, you'd rather have us being unable to trust ansoro because you don't want people to know for sure he is the floor 7 director. Where is the sense in this, where is the logic?
Ansoro already claimed. If he is not mafia then the mafia already know that he is the floor 7 director and therefor not any of the other PR's. So the only thing you are doing by not claiming is making us not able to trust Ansoro's claim.
Parts in bold to express my anger =c.

Indeed, I do Not want people to know who is who, its a double-edged sword,
We might be able to find ansoro out, But the mafia finds out that Ansoro is less important, They find out the others are more important, You also contradict yourself notty,
Youre saying that by Not claiming i am saying that we can't trust ansoro? Tbh, I don't really trust him either, I don't trust any of you, I shouldn't. Ansoro could be lying, And someone else could be lying too by saying they are NOT the floor 7 director out of fear of being killed. This means the votes just fucked up, You are explicitly asking us who we are, Who knows, Maybe you'll ask who's the Toymaker next, So he gets killed and can't lend out any items, You're dooming us all behind the façade of trying to help us,
Notty, I claim you are scum. Period.
My vote remains the same

 

[Fiestaguy]

According to your logic, we should vote Ansoro. Because according to you, I am:
- Exposing PR's
- Making the list of who is the swat/doctor/toymaker smaller
- Telling people who is not the director which is indirectly saying that they are another PR.

Ansoro does 100% that, so let's lynch him!
- Exposing PR's He claimed his role thus exposing a PR! ermg.
- Making the list of who is the swat/doctor/toymaker smaller. He claimed Floor 7 Director. Therefor anyone else has to be another PR.
- Telling people who is not the director which is indirectly saying that they are another PR. Again, HE CLAIMED. He says he is the Floor 7 Director so the mafia KNOWS that you are not the Floor 7 Director.

But here is a newsflash... I DONT. Because unlike the mafia the town doesn't know wether Ansoro is the true Floor 7 Director or not. For all I know he could be a mafia fake-claiming to be the Floor 7 Director. Lynch me for wanting to know for sure right?

Oh notty, You see what youre doing here? You're making misuse of people believing you. Its already too late to unclaim now, But he might be lying?
You ORCHESTRATED the plan, He only COMPETED because he might not have realised it notty. Yes. I am lynching you, But not to know "For sure", But because you keep initiating claiming.

 

[Nottykitten]

Indeed, I do Not want people to know who is who, its a double-edged sword,
We might be able to find ansoro out, But the mafia finds out that Ansoro is less important, They find out the others are more important, You also contradict yourself notty,
Youre saying that by Not claiming i am saying that we can't trust ansoro? Tbh, I don't really trust him either, I don't trust any of you, I shouldn't. Ansoro could be lying, And someone else could be lying too by saying they are NOT the floor 7 director out of fear of being killed. This means the votes just fucked up, You are explicitly asking us who we are, Who knows, Maybe you'll ask who's the Toymaker next, So he gets killed and can't lend out any items, You're dooming us all behind the façade of trying to help us,
Notty, I claim you are scum. Period.
My vote remains the same

First, I don't think anyone would be as stupid to claim PR when they are infact another PR. Second, it would be even more stupid if someone claims your role and then you don't CC and let the mafia get away with it.

The thing is we SHOULD trust ansoro. Because if the towns people are lying then why are we even trying to get rid of the mafia? Why not just kill each other now and be done with it. Lying townspeople will doom the town and is the worst thing you could possibly do as a townsperson.[Sorry Mmarz =(].

And thus I don't think any townsperson would claim Floor 7 Director when they are not. Therefor I do trust Ansoro, as long as nobody else CC's him.

I claim your argument has 0% logic and only makes sense if the townspeople were trying to lose. Instead, I am trying to get 1 person proven[ansoro] which we do by making sure nobody else is the real Floor 7 Direcotr.

 

[Nottykitten]

Oh notty, You see what youre doing here? You're making misuse of people believing you. Its already too late to unclaim now, But he might be lying?
You ORCHESTRATED the plan, He only COMPETED because he might not have realised it notty. Yes. I am lynching you, But not to know "For sure", But because you keep initiating claiming.

This is confusing, are you saying me and Ansoro are both mafia and I am trying to save him because he made a mistake by claiming? I'm confused ;-;

 

[Fiestaguy]

This is confusing, are you saying me and Ansoro are both mafia and I am trying to save him because he made a mistake by claiming? I'm confused ;-;

No, You orchestrated the Claiming plan, You're saying Ansoro is scum because HE is claiming. Wich is outrageous.

 

[Nottykitten]

No, You orchestrated the Claiming plan, You're saying Ansoro is scum because HE is claiming. Wich is outrageous.

I was saying that to mock your statement about me being scum. Because ansoro claimed and you are going after me for it. All I'm doing is trying to make sure we can trust Ansoro and all you're doing is trying to make sure we can't. Who's the scum here? =/

 

[Enderfive]

No, You orchestrated the Claiming plan, You're saying Ansoro is scum because HE is claiming. Wich is outrageous.

This doesn't make any sense. All notty is trying to do is figure out if he really is the Director, so we'd know whether or not to lynch him. If there are no CCs, we shouldn't lynch him, because he'd be pretty much confirmed then. Unless someone wants to act like Mmarz again, in which case I really have no idea what the heck is going on in people's minds.

 

[Mooglie]

This doesn't make any sense. All notty is trying to do is figure out if he really is the Director, so we'd know whether or not to lynch him. If there are no CCs, we shouldn't lynch him, because he'd be pretty much confirmed then. Unless someone wants to act like Mmarz again, in which case I really have no idea what the heck is going on in people's minds.

*sneaks out of the shadows*

I lied, I'm not really a citizen, I'm the third cop!

*sneaks back into the shadows*

(also someone should really involve me in some conversation this game has been really different from Intrusion since I was being attacked all the time due to be the SK ;~; i'mlonely)

 

[GmK]

*sneaks out of the shadows*

I lied, I'm not really a citizen, I'm the third cop!

*sneaks back into the shadows*

(also someone should really involve me in some conversation this game has been really different from Intrusion since I was being attacked all the time due to be the SK ;~; i'mlonely)

Well, you *are* one of the 4 "Regular Guests of whom one is a fake", so want me to attack you?

---

I am currently rather trying not to lose track, there's too many simultaneous FOS going on from all sides.

 

[Fiestaguy]

I was saying that to mock your statement about me being scum. Because ansoro claimed and you are going after me for it. All I'm doing is trying to make sure we can trust Ansoro and all you're doing is trying to make sure we can't. Who's the scum here? =/

Nope, I'm saying that because you've initiated more than 1 claiming session, 1 time was already slightly dodgy, But you've done it twice now. THAT is suspicious, I’m trying to look trough the bigger picture here, I’m making sure the Mafia doesn’t get a kill list.

 

[Ltin]

Exhibit A was me saying that is was unexpected that Ansoro was the Floor 7 Director. I didn't say it was about the cop things. And it was unexpected since he seemed really mafia-like to me. And it's totally weird because Ansoro's quote came from page 10 and mine from page 20. How did you even think that those two were connected? ;-;

The game isn't useless, I just want to make sure we aren't believing ansoro and then after a long discussion someone is like "Oh yeah, I didn't care to post because I was inactive herpa derpa but I am the real Floor 7 Director". That is why the game is needed, to make sure.

The quote was from page 10, yes, but I do seems to remember them being related, but I guess not
unvote

 

[Fiestaguy]

First, I don't think anyone would be as stupid to claim PR when they are infact another PR. Second, it would be even more stupid if someone claims your role and then you don't CC and let the mafia get away with it.
The thing is we SHOULD trust ansoro. Because if the towns people are lying then why are we even trying to get rid of the mafia? Why not just kill each other now and be done with it. Lying townspeople will doom the town and is the worst thing you could possibly do as a townsperson.[Sorry Mmarz =(].
And thus I don't think any townsperson would claim Floor 7 Director when they are not. Therefor I do trust Ansoro, as long as nobody else CC's him.
I claim your argument has 0% logic and only makes sense if the townspeople were trying to lose. Instead, I am trying to get 1 person proven[ansoro] which we do by making sure nobody else is the real Floor 7 Director.

Lets take the Doctor as example. The doctor is an important role, If the doctor claims he will almost surely be killed the next night, Remember, The Floor 7 Director can roleblock 3 persons, Those 3 persons could aswell be the Mafia, If they were there they’d SURELY want to have the Floor 7 Director dead,
What Jivvy said about a lone kill wasn’t that ridiculous, Ansoro could’ve been the ghost the first night, Get role blocked the second night and now tries to suicide.

You're saying the townspeople only lie to get each other killed? Mmarz did the same, We could aswell be lying to confuse the mafia. Again, As i said, You don't have to Counterclaim if you don't want to, Or maybe it's part of a bigger plan for the Floor 7 Director.

 

[Enderfive]

Nope, I'm saying that because you've initiated more than 1 claiming session, 1 time was already slightly dodgy, But you've done it twice now. THAT is suspicious, I’m trying to look trough the bigger picture here, I’m making sure the Mafia doesn’t get a kill list.

The mafia already has a kill list, regardless of whether there's another claimround today or not. Notty is trying to figure out whether or not anso is really the Director, which will benefit the town, because then we'd have a greater chance of lynching scum, rather than town today, since we could either lynch anso if he's lying or leave him be as a confirmed inno when nobody CCs.

 

[Ltin]

This game is so confusing......

 

[Nottykitten]

Lets take the Doctor as example. The doctor is an important role, If the doctor claims he will almost surely be killed the next night, Remember, The Floor 7 Director can roleblock 3 persons, Those 3 persons could aswell be the Mafia, If they were there they’d SURELY want to have the Floor 7 Director dead,
What Jivvy said about a lone kill wasn’t that ridiculous, Ansoro could’ve been the ghost the first night, Get role blocked the second night and now tries to suicide.

You're saying the townspeople only lie to get each other killed? Mmarz did the same, We could aswell be lying to confuse the mafia. Again, As i said, You don't have to Counterclaim if you don't want to, Or maybe it's part of a bigger plan for the Floor 7 Director.

"At the starting night, the Director chooses three players and puts them into a room together. During each day period, the Director can leave one message for the chosen players that will be seen at the beginning of the next night. During the night, the chosen players may converse until the night ends. The room will stay active even if the Director dies, but without messages from the Director."


"@cooliorules - The people in the Floor 7 Director room can still strike."

He can only choose 3 people at the start of the game and not change those 3. Also he doesn't roleblock those three.

 

[Fiestaguy]

The mafia already has a kill list, regardless of whether there's another claimround today or not. Notty is trying to figure out whether or not anso is really the Director, which will benefit the town, because then we'd have a greater chance of lynching scum, rather than town today, since we could either lynch anso if he's lying or leave him be as a confirmed inno when nobody CCs.

The mafia has a ROUGH kill list. They only know who's a PR and who's a Regular guest, There's also a Lie amongst the regular guests, Claiming the other PR's only extends their kill list as to WHO to kill first.

 

[Nottykitten]

The mafia has a ROUGH kill list. They only know who's a PR and who's a Regular guest, There's also a Lie amongst the regular guests, Claiming the other PR's only extends their kill list as to WHO to kill first.

Ansoro was forced to claim or we'd lynch him as he was pretty suspicious. We aren't claiming other PR's, we are just making sure that Ansoro isn't trying to deceive us. Which we simply do by saying you are not the Floor 7 Director. We are not claiming a role, we are claiming that we are not since Ansoro already claimed he is.