SCP - Secure, Contain, Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Finally found this xP Updated it slightly, sorry if there's something wrong, I didn't have enough time to do this properly right now.
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{tr}
{td}Name{/td}
{td}Claim{/td}
{td}Extra information{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}NottyKitten{/td}
{td}Itemgiver{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Old_Man_Oak_63{/td}
{td}Itemgiver and O5{/td}
{td}Claims to have received a knife. {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Iggy234{/td}
{td}05{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jivvi{/td}
{td}O5 and Mayor{/td}
{td}
Can Double vote during the day
Received Garden Shears and Med Kit.
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Myusername22{/td}
{td}Paranoid Cop{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Faliara{/td}
{td}"Security Chief"{/td}
{td}During day gets update about "important things that have been discussed that night"{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}GmK{/td}
{td}Room visitor{/td}
{td}When visiting Tim's room, the room was unable to talk shortly after.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}77_is_the_best{/td}
{td}Roleblocker{/td}
{td}Can roleblock not one, but two people during the night. (Both N3 targets died){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Raxo2222{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td} Turned Into an 05 after Iggy died{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Timdood3{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td}Has a Blue item.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Cooliorules{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Erik5456{/td}
{td}-{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Hunter27a1{/td}
{td}SCP-095{/td}
{td}Third-party; Dead{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Chicken23456789{/td}
{td}Bodyguard{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Ltin{/td}
{td}Survivor{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jolteon42{/td}
{td}Loyal Vigilante{/td}
{td}Replaced Brownlee. No target N1, random N2(Lee_Scar), Std N3.{/td}
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{td}The road to ruin{/td}
{td}Mortician{/td}
{td}Basicly a Survivor, but wins not at the end of the game but when a certain amount of people have died. He claims to achieve this goal faster when it is a Mafia that died.{/td}
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{tr}
{td}Samlen{/td}
{td}"Rogue MTF Unit"{/td}
{td}Confirmed Third-party \o/{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lee_Scar{/td}
{td}-{/td}
{td}Not claimed yet{/td}
{/tr}
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{tbody}
{tr}
{td}Name{/td}
{td}Claim{/td}
{td}Extra information{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}NottyKitten{/td}
{td}Itemgiver{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Old_Man_Oak_63{/td}
{td}Itemgiver and O5{/td}
{td}Claims to have received a knife. {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Iggy234{/td}
{td}05{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jivvi{/td}
{td}O5 and Mayor{/td}
{td}
Can Double vote during the day
Received Garden Shears and Med Kit.
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Myusername22{/td}
{td}Paranoid Cop{/td}
{td}Dead (town){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Faliara{/td}
{td}"Security Chief"{/td}
{td}During day gets update about "important things that have been discussed that night"{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}GmK{/td}
{td}Room visitor{/td}
{td}When visiting Tim's room, the room was unable to talk shortly after.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}77_is_the_best{/td}
{td}Roleblocker{/td}
{td}Can roleblock not one, but two people during the night. (Both N3 targets died){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Raxo2222{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td} Turned Into an 05 after Iggy died{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Timdood3{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td}Has a Blue item.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Cooliorules{/td}
{td}Vanilla Towny{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Erik5456{/td}
{td}-{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Hunter27a1{/td}
{td}SCP-095{/td}
{td}Third-party; Dead{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Chicken23456789{/td}
{td}Bodyguard{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Ltin{/td}
{td}Survivor{/td}
{td} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Jolteon42{/td}
{td}Loyal Vigilante{/td}
{td}Replaced Brownlee. No target N1, random N2(Lee_Scar), Std N3.{/td}
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{td}The road to ruin{/td}
{td}Mortician{/td}
{td}Basicly a Survivor, but wins not at the end of the game but when a certain amount of people have died. He claims to achieve this goal faster when it is a Mafia that died.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Samlen{/td}
{td}"Rogue MTF Unit"{/td}
{td}Confirmed Third-party \o/{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td}Lee_Scar{/td}
{td}-{/td}
{td}Not claimed yet{/td}
{/tr}
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Ok time for me to say potentially useful things. Yesterday I said I might be close to finding a potential mafia. I also said I wouldn't disclose any details until I actually knew the information. Well here it is. For those who hadn't figured it out (I'm sure a few of the more observant players did), my item was the blue keycard. It let me join any room that I knew the number of. The reason I wanted to join room 12 was because 1) Room 76 was lonely as fuck. 2) Room 12 was the only other room I had the number of. 3) It had an unclaimed member in it! That's why I said I was potentially close to finding a potential mafia. I don't remember which one was unclaimed, but I'm pretty sure it was Jolt, who is (probably) town. It was a pretty desperate attempt, but we have basically no leads, and I thought I could help ;-;
When I arrived in room 12, they had been discussing Jolteon's target, because he didn't know. Notty's suggestions were GmK, Erik, Lee. In that order. Speaking of GmK, he said he'd join room 12, but never did . _. I also asked Jolteon why he hadn't claimed to be in the room, but got no answer. Not only did I not get an answer, but I never even saw a message from Jolt. He said he had no idea, and that was it. I feel like Lee might have been the target of RNG a second time. How Lee survived a unanimous O5 vote, however is beyond me. One idea I had was that Jivvi used his medkit (he hasn't use that, right?) on Lee and voted yes. That theory is dependent on Jivvi and Lee both being scum. Who knows? Maybe they are.
I preobably had more ideas, but I forgot them and I'm out of time to right. I'll check back after lunch, bai.
When I arrived in room 12, they had been discussing Jolteon's target, because he didn't know. Notty's suggestions were GmK, Erik, Lee. In that order. Speaking of GmK, he said he'd join room 12, but never did . _. I also asked Jolteon why he hadn't claimed to be in the room, but got no answer. Not only did I not get an answer, but I never even saw a message from Jolt. He said he had no idea, and that was it. I feel like Lee might have been the target of RNG a second time. How Lee survived a unanimous O5 vote, however is beyond me. One idea I had was that Jivvi used his medkit (he hasn't use that, right?) on Lee and voted yes. That theory is dependent on Jivvi and Lee both being scum. Who knows? Maybe they are.
I preobably had more ideas, but I forgot them and I'm out of time to right. I'll check back after lunch, bai.
Theeerrrooory Time!
So I've looked at the 05 council thing and the first thing it reminds me of is the Bloody Masquerade's Council, albeit, with Jolt as the 'kill suggester'. As soon as one council member died, another one (raxo) was immediately placed onto the council. There's also still the time where the 05's disagreed on whom said yes/no, which lead us to conclude that one of them was lying and eventually helped lead to us lynching Iggy, whom turned up town. Looking at this, it sounds at least semi-logical that the 05's are not guaranteed to be town-sided.
Now looking at the currently living people, this is the general idea of them:
Raxo2222 - Claimed Vanilla town, now part of the 05 Council after Iggy died. Given my theory about the 05, I feel he could be town or anti-town sided
Ltin - Claimed Survivor, easy role to claim, could easily be survivor or anti-town.
Timdood3 - Claimed Vanilla town, now with a 'blue keycard' that lets him visits rooms he knows the number of. The keycard bit feels mostly confirmed, though nothing to prove him as town or anti-town.
Jolteon42 - Loyal Vigilante, I feel like Jolt's one of the most confirmed people role-wise, and I would say is one of the most confirmed town-sided people.
Samlen - Hai there, I feel like there's more than enough evidence to support my claim, so now that my goal is done, I'm a confirmed not anti-town here helping the town because I'm bored \o/
GmK - Claims Room Visitor, seems very ambiguous in general and role visiting may or may not have side effects of 'breaking' the room when entering. Nothing to say he's confirmed town or anti-town, though 'breaking' rooms doesn't feel particularly pro-town.
Old_Man_Oak_63 - Confirmed 05 and Item-giver, though with my theory about the 05's, he doesn't feel to be confirmed anti-town or pro-town.
chicken23456789 - Claims bodyguard, probably town-sided if claim is true, though only way to prove claim is for him to die while protecting someone, so who knows for sure. Would be a weird role to try and fake claim (imo) so I feel that he could be leaning more towards town (though not completely confirmed).
Lee_Scar - Refuses to claim, has had multiple attempts on life so far but not dead yet. Could easily be town or anti-town.
Erik5456 - Doesn't have claim or can't remember claim right now, so either way, unconfirmed town or anti-town
The road to ruin - Interesting claim, if claims is true, then it really *is* in his best interest to kill Mafia, though we may not be able to confirm his alignment for sure until he dies or meets his win condition
Faliara - Claims Security Chief, I'd probably have to go through a bunch of the pages again to double-check on whether or not Fal's role was confirmed or not, though it does feel more confirmed than most other people's roles and it would seem more likely to be a pro-town role (again, not certain either way)
77_is_the_best - Claims double-roleblocker, not sure if his role has actually been confirmed yet, not sure what else to think here.
Jivvi - Confirmed 05 and confirmed Mayor double-voting, even with my theory on the 05's, I believe he's mostly confirmed town-sided because of his Mayor ability
cooliorules - Claims Vanilla town, nothing to support her as pro-town or anti-town.
Now out of these people, these are the only ones I feel are almost 100% confirmed to not be anti-town;
Jolteon42, Samlen, and Jivvi.
Going logically from there, that leaves 12/15 other people to be potential Mafia members and there are 2 people (Erik and Lee) whom haven't claimed anything yet.
Just my more general thoughts for now, probably going to wait for more people to talk now.
So I've looked at the 05 council thing and the first thing it reminds me of is the Bloody Masquerade's Council, albeit, with Jolt as the 'kill suggester'. As soon as one council member died, another one (raxo) was immediately placed onto the council. There's also still the time where the 05's disagreed on whom said yes/no, which lead us to conclude that one of them was lying and eventually helped lead to us lynching Iggy, whom turned up town. Looking at this, it sounds at least semi-logical that the 05's are not guaranteed to be town-sided.
Now looking at the currently living people, this is the general idea of them:
Raxo2222 - Claimed Vanilla town, now part of the 05 Council after Iggy died. Given my theory about the 05, I feel he could be town or anti-town sided
Ltin - Claimed Survivor, easy role to claim, could easily be survivor or anti-town.
Timdood3 - Claimed Vanilla town, now with a 'blue keycard' that lets him visits rooms he knows the number of. The keycard bit feels mostly confirmed, though nothing to prove him as town or anti-town.
Jolteon42 - Loyal Vigilante, I feel like Jolt's one of the most confirmed people role-wise, and I would say is one of the most confirmed town-sided people.
Samlen - Hai there, I feel like there's more than enough evidence to support my claim, so now that my goal is done, I'm a confirmed not anti-town here helping the town because I'm bored \o/
GmK - Claims Room Visitor, seems very ambiguous in general and role visiting may or may not have side effects of 'breaking' the room when entering. Nothing to say he's confirmed town or anti-town, though 'breaking' rooms doesn't feel particularly pro-town.
Old_Man_Oak_63 - Confirmed 05 and Item-giver, though with my theory about the 05's, he doesn't feel to be confirmed anti-town or pro-town.
chicken23456789 - Claims bodyguard, probably town-sided if claim is true, though only way to prove claim is for him to die while protecting someone, so who knows for sure. Would be a weird role to try and fake claim (imo) so I feel that he could be leaning more towards town (though not completely confirmed).
Lee_Scar - Refuses to claim, has had multiple attempts on life so far but not dead yet. Could easily be town or anti-town.
Erik5456 - Doesn't have claim or can't remember claim right now, so either way, unconfirmed town or anti-town
The road to ruin - Interesting claim, if claims is true, then it really *is* in his best interest to kill Mafia, though we may not be able to confirm his alignment for sure until he dies or meets his win condition
Faliara - Claims Security Chief, I'd probably have to go through a bunch of the pages again to double-check on whether or not Fal's role was confirmed or not, though it does feel more confirmed than most other people's roles and it would seem more likely to be a pro-town role (again, not certain either way)
77_is_the_best - Claims double-roleblocker, not sure if his role has actually been confirmed yet, not sure what else to think here.
Jivvi - Confirmed 05 and confirmed Mayor double-voting, even with my theory on the 05's, I believe he's mostly confirmed town-sided because of his Mayor ability
cooliorules - Claims Vanilla town, nothing to support her as pro-town or anti-town.
Now out of these people, these are the only ones I feel are almost 100% confirmed to not be anti-town;
Jolteon42, Samlen, and Jivvi.
Going logically from there, that leaves 12/15 other people to be potential Mafia members and there are 2 people (Erik and Lee) whom haven't claimed anything yet.
Just my more general thoughts for now, probably going to wait for more people to talk now.
I should note now that the keycard was one use only. Last night, notty mentioned thinking that the card could be used to access a "secret room" but didn't know what that entailed. At an earlier time also notty eluded to the existence of another keycard, a red one. That, however, goes over the three items they were said to have when they claimed (they being omo and notty). OMO if you could confirm or deny the existence of the red keycard that would be pretty cool.
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
Ah, nice pick up. Missed that one.
So if neither claim, I think it's best for one of the two to be lynched today. Right now I'm leaning towards Lee because he's said 'why should I claim' which is quite a stupid thing to say unless he was an extremely important power role. In which case, he shouldn't have made such a big fuss about it and fake claimed to keep the suspicion off him.
Now timdood said something about Jivvi using the medkit on Lee which saved him - I could see this as a possibility as I believe that one of Oak or Jivvi is mafia. If Jivvi is the mafia, then he had this medkit which he used on one of his team mates (that being lee) to save him.
If Oak was the mafia, then it's a lot less of a complicated situation. He tampers with the items in a bad way (so if he refines them and hands them out if it's a medkit it could kill someone instead of saving (this is just a possibility) or the knife kills the user)
That whole second paragraph just came to my mind as I sit in english watching Running Wild with Bear Grylls so.. yeah.. :)
Oak Milk
Kill Hungry Thirsty Dead
Its a great theory and all, but you have to look at a couple of things here.
1. Jivvi has been proven to have a very pro-town power, which is being able to double vote in the day.
2. Anything I've handed out has been given to Jivvi, and I'm pretty sure he is still alive.
3. Jivvi used his medkit on me the night before.
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
1. Yes, I agree with that. If that were to be a mafia ability, it would be ridiculously unbalanced (in my opinion).
2. That's true, maybe it had a defect or something that hadn't shown because of circumstances possibly?
3. Ah. Missed that bit.
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
That's a good point, actually. So from this I assume that Notty was the mafia kill, and something.. weird has happened with the 05.
I don't know, weird things can happen ;n;
Fiestaguy
The man with 8 fingers.
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Lee_Scar - 2 - (Ltin, The Road To Ruin) [6 more]
Erik5456 - 1 - (Raxo2222) [7 more]
With 15 alive it'll take 8 to lynch and 7 to no-lynch.
Lee_Scar - 2 - (Ltin, The Road To Ruin) [6 more]
Erik5456 - 1 - (Raxo2222) [7 more]
With 15 alive it'll take 8 to lynch and 7 to no-lynch.
GmK
International Man Of Cake
But that wouldn't stop one (or both) of them potentially being mafia, or? Since a mafia group in many games has a specific person killing (and/or chooses every time), and if you didn't block that person the kill would still go through?
If you even did block them and don't end up being a mafia roleblocker
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