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I really haven't come up with my opinion, but you need to remember that I had to catch up on 20 pages because I never was notified of the thread having any replies. I've been busy with Christmas today so it's not like I have time to think about that. I'll try to come up with some opinion tonight.
 

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This is fair, and I missed it. I'm not trying to accuse any of being inactive or throw anyone under the bus at this moment so i'm hoping you weren't offended by this. At least try to answer the questions when you come back or when you feel up to it, if their still relevant? <3?
 

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This is fair, and I missed it. I'm not trying to accuse any of being inactive or throw anyone under the bus at this moment so i'm hoping you weren't offended by this. At least try to answer the questions when you come back or when you feel up to it, if their still relevant? <3?
Do you think it's most likely that Alpha102 is town-sided, mafia-sided, or third party?
 

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This is fair, and I missed it. I'm not trying to accuse any of being inactive or throw anyone under the bus at this moment so i'm hoping you weren't offended by this. At least try to answer the questions when you come back or when you feel up to it, if their still relevant? <3?
Not offended at all. c: I'm currently catching up on the 4 pages from when I left last night :p
 

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why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?My best guess is reaction testing, it's how he gets information.
why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard
People are looking for ideas to go after, even the smaller ones are being followed. This just so happened to pop up and people decided to explore it. I don't think there's much to look into, but who knows, anything is possible.
who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Most suspicious is a little to specific, especially on day 1. I actually feel more worried about the people out of the limelight than the rest, though of those more in the limelight, I'd say Alpha's acted almost the most worryingly to me so far, though I'm keeping a close eye on the others.
who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Nope, noone is not suspicious. Not even going to try and think about 'least' suspicious right now
why are these people least/most suspicious?
Too sudden of claim for Alpha, rest just haven't done too much that's noticeable that I haven't said before.
any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?

Are we really lynching today or not? We certainly seem to be more pro-lynch than most game starts, but it's still iffy. If you can convince me someone really should be lynched (e.g. Alpha's hiding a more sinister claim or Hunter's too much of a loose cannon or so on) than I might go on board with it. Other than that, nothing immediately comes to mind.
 

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why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
Who knows what he's thinking. I just know it looks wrong in basically every way.
why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard?
If you defend anyone at all, especially more than once, people are going to think that. It's a product of the naturally suspicious atmosphere of a mafia game.
who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Hunter. Hands down. Jumping around with his opinions and strategies and never being consistent with anything is just either very scummy or too erratic to be able to trust, and in the future, it could end up causing confusion.
who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Mostly the people that aren't talking. It is kind of suspicious that they aren't talking, but it's Christmas and people are busy, so there's not much we can do about that. They aren't all that suspicious to me at this point because they haven't DONE anything suspicious.
why are these people least/most suspicious?
See above. Explained it where I stated my suspicions.
any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?
I don't think we should be jumping on Alpha. It's not like he had much of a choice; it was either he claimed or was lynched. And, when there's any way at all to root out lies, it's pointless to do so; there's generally a policy of "lynch all liars." If he's telling the truth, after he was found out, he'd be in the same situation he is now. So, I think we should just calm down about him and start scrutinizing other things.
 

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why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
I'm not entirely sure, but it worries me a bit.
why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard
I really don't see it to be honest, though that may be the lack of remembering the first posts on this subject. (Reading 20 pages when you're tired probably isn't the best idea. lol)
who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Hunter would have to be the most suspicious to me with how he's been behaving (that I can recall from the pages I've read).
who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Probably most of the people that haven't been talking. Like Caff said, it's Christmas so people can be busy. (I was.)
why are these people least/most suspicious?
Just something about the way Hunter has been acting in this game has rubbed me wrong this entire time.
any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?
I can't think of many right now, but to be honest, I'm still super confused about everything that's really been going on.
 

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why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
I'd assume it's because he found the information he was looking for. What that information would be I have no idea.
why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard
I don't think that, for one. Honestly, I think every one else is just pushing too hard on him. I may have misinterpreted the situation, but I don't see really anything wrong with what he did.
who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Hunter. I mean, it might just be his erratic style, but it gets me every time. He plays like it's epicmafia...But it's not. And it makes it hard for me to read him. I might even say my suspicion is more policy than actual suspicion (which is unfortunate), but yeah.
who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Well fuck, everyone is suspicious. It's Day 1 (0) and no one is confirmed. No one is confirmed, therefore everyone is suspicious. Even me.
why are these people least/most suspicious?
N/A

Votecount anywhere?
 

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By the way, myusername's questions are extremely loaded.
There's not much I can do about it
But his first question automatically implies that Hunter is doing something odd
And the second question implies that Myusername is totally fine in his actions
I mean, kudos for wording your questions so persuasively.
But that's really irking me now.
And it's extra annoying because I can't exactly use it as evidence, because maybe it was just entirely accidental, who knows?
But the answers to this poll automatically form bias against hunter and for Myusername because of the wording.
 

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By the way, myusername's questions are extremely loaded.
There's not much I can do about it
But his first question automatically implies that Hunter is doing something odd
And the second question implies that Myusername is totally fine in his actions
I mean, kudos for wording your questions so persuasively.
But that's really irking me now.
And it's extra annoying because I can't exactly use it as evidence, because maybe it was just entirely accidental, who knows?
But the answers to this poll automatically form bias against hunter and for Myusername because of the wording.
I think you're right. They looked okay at the time I was writing it but may be pre biased by my perceptions. I was trying to focus on the major events but I cut out the question about notty because it felt like there were too many questions. It was awkward asking the question about myself but I didn't omit it because I didn't want to look like I was ommiting the accusations against myself. It was awkward phrasing it because I was going to say " why is myusername22 teaming with...." I felt if I'd done that people might read it the wrong way and think that I thought I was teaming or read it as an admission of guilt, which it isn't.
The other three questions arent person specific so they should be okay but people can rephrase the question slightly if it feels necessary.
 

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why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
No idea. Maybe he almost had mafia slip?

why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard
IDK but he thinks that alpha is same alignment as myusername.
Or he had some plans about alpha.

who is the most suspicious person to you right now?

Hmm hunter, myusername and alpha...

who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
hmm other people I bet...

why are these people least/most suspicious?
These guys seem to want to be leaders of town.

And others... well they may be little too inactive.

any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?

N/A
 

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It really should have been more like:

• How do you feel about Hunter27a1's behavior currently in contrast to his behavior in other games?
• Do you believe that myusername is defending Alpha102 too much? If so, why? If not, why do you think others believe so?

If there is a difference in Hunter's behavior, they should be able to notice it themselves. By pointing it out in the question, the person asked will automatically assume that the behavior is odd, regardless of whether they know Hunter's play style.
 

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It really should have been more like:

• How do you feel about Hunter27a1's behavior currently in contrast to his behavior in other games?
• Do you believe that myusername is defending Alpha102 too much? If so, why? If not, why do you think others believe so?
I disagree, there is a noticeable difference between how hunter is currently playing and how he played earlier this game. The question was intended to ask an opinion about his change in behavior during this game. Not compare his behaviors throughout different games.

And perhaps this is a tad selfish of me, but when deciding the question about myself I picked what I thought would give me the most information.
 

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• How do you feel about Hunter27a1's change in behavior throughout the game?

If they're paying attention to the game, they can notice it themselves.
Otherwise, they're just going off the information in your question.
I'm sure at least a couple people have answered your question just based on the question and not analyzing what's actually going on.
 

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Here I go =3

why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch? Well I think he's unsure how to approach this game. Or a more far-fetched idea is that he found what he's looking for. Me! Maybe hes a role that needs to kill Hercules. Maybe thats why he was so interrested in me having a rolename.

why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard.
Not everyone, just a few. Though I would like to point out that the chance of Alpha being town is pretty low since claiming third party isnt a normal town strategy. As both Alpha and defiant sort of pointed out, people with Amnesia are the dangerous ones so beware.

who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Hunter, I dont like his changes in opinion/playstyle, makes him seem very scummy.

who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Alpha, pretty sure I can trust him.

*cuts out one question*

any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?
Yes infact more quetions!


I think these are useful aswell.
If you are voting someone, why are you voting this person?

If you arent voting anyone, why not and do you support a Lynch or a No-lynch.
 

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Why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
Reaction tests maybe (if so it's been successful since everyone has been reacting to it)? Could also be because he wants to appear differently to try and appear more innocent but it appears to be the opposite, which could be the point for a reaction test, but it may not.

Why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard?

Meh, I don't agree with this too much since people can have the same ideas but it could be argued either way as one trying to defend the other or just the same ideas.

Who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Like I said in my previous post, Hunter is the most suspicious to me but I'm still uncertain and don't feel it's lynch worthy right now even though lynching is more worth it. If it comes down to the last day in the deadline, I'll probably vote for him if no more evidence comes to light in the time between then.

Who is the least suspicious person to you right now?

Never trust anyone in Mafia! But I'd have to say JK although I tend to always trust him and his long posts of text which may be incorrect if he's Mafia or something but they're too appealing ;-;
If you are voting someone, why are you voting this person?
N/A

If you aren't voting anyone, why not and do you support a Lynch or a No-lynch?

Explained in the most suspicious part of the post but: Not enough evidence (to me) and I support a lynch.
 

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Hunter talks funny.
Never gonna expect anything serious out of you guys again.

In all seriousness, I guess I have to answer the questions as well, huh?

Is Hunter changing his playstyle in favour of a No Lynch?

No, not that I could tell. Sure, he's saying No Lynch at the moment, but unless he actually stays with that decision for more than a day or two, I can't say I can note any significant change in his playstyle. Besides, he did say he was gonna be active the first few days and then go more inactive because holiday stuff.

Was myusername defending Alpha and if he was, what of it?

Yeah, sure, I guess you could say he was defending him. But as far as I've understood the situation so far, it was on the grounds of not really being able to make anything out of Alpha's claim and therefore him not being as lynch-worthy as others. I see the logic in that and I don't think we can conclude that it was because myusername is scum buddies with Alpha just yet.

Who is the most suspicious person to you right now?

Notty, Alpha Duffie and Hunter.

Who is the least suspicious person to you right now?

Everyone else.

Why are these people least/most suspicious?

The thing with Alpha and Notty is that they're not suspicious to me in the sense that most people tend to use the word in mafia games. I don't regard them to be likely to be mafia, or to be likely to be town, or to be likely to be third party. To me, they could be anything. However, it's their claims that make me cautious of them, since both claims look like complete bullshit. Whether the claims are truthful or not, and I strongly believe it to be the last, I feel like they have some kind of a plan in this game, a certain agenda they wish to push, and the fact that I don't know what it is makes me extremely cautious of them and anything they say I will take with a grain of salt.

The FoS on Hunter comes from his erratic gameplay and almost mind-boggling looking actions from time to time. People have pointed out many things that seem to turn the tables against Hunter and I find the points to be rather legitimate. The fact that Hunter hasn't responded to most of them tells me that either they're right in their assumptions and Hunter can't find a way to answer to them without looking like complete scum, or that he couldn't care less about any accusations against him, which would suggest that the accusations are wrong. You could say that my FoS on Hunter is 50% actual suspicion of him being a third-party of mafia and 50% policy.

Now, as for Duffie, a few things have caught my eye and I don't quite know what to think of them. The gameplay change on it's own wouldn't perhaps be a big deal, but the first thing that caught my eye was that when he was asked about the change, he said "Glad someone noticed." So now we know that he's playing differently intentionally. Why? That's the first question that comes up.

The second (and, so far, the final thing) that seemed peculiar was his answer to the first question that myusername asked. I quote:

why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
Perhaps I scared him. ;)
Scared him how exactly? You've barely said anything in the game, and direct attacks against Hunter is something I saw in only one or two posts of yours. Do you think this is sufficient grounds for him to be scared of you?

What this all put together looks like to me is that Duffie's leaving breadcrumbs all over the place for someone to find, and that his role, being the unusual one that he said it was, has something to do with interacting somehow with a certain other role. I also read from all of this that the role he has is something that GmK has specifically come up with for this particular game, so we could expect anything from him and to conclude my theory, I also hypotesize that Duffie is a third party, because all of this put together suggests that his win condition is something closely related to his particular role, not to get rid of all the threats to the town as the town win condition is, or to make the mafia control the vote, as the mafia win condition would be.

If you arent voting anyone, why not and do you support a Lynch or a No-lynch.

I'm not voting anyone at the moment, because I want to make the most out of this day and if we all start voting now, it'll be cut pretty short, right? As for the second part of the question, I think we all know what my answer is.
 

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Sure, I'll bite.

why is hunter suddenly trying to switching from his usual playstyle to choosing a no-lynch?
I'd say it's quite along the lines of his normal playstyle this game, which is switching his idea on what to do around very often.

why does everyone seem to think myusername22 is defending alpha too hard
A lot of your posts have been about me in some way, which is flattering but gives off a different impression than what you would really want.

who is the most suspicious person to you right now?
Defiant_Blob, followed shortly by Hunter and then Jivvi. Actually, Defiant_Blob provided excellent reasons earlier for why he let me do the talking for amnesia early on.

who is the least suspicious person to you right now?
Anyone who I haven't talked about yet.

why are these people least/most suspicious?
Defiant_Blob was suspicious to me but the most suspicious person now is Hunter27a1. I don't trust him at all and I feel like even his day playstyle is harmful to the town. Plus he's not showing a consistent opinion on anything, so it's very hard to agree with what he says if he can't even agree with it.

any other thought /comments/things that should be argued more?

If lynching Hunter is indeed a good idea, or if it's a policy vote.

Switching my vote to the most suspicious/scummy in my eyes now.

unvote
vote Hunter27a1
Up above you listed your suspicion order as Defiant, Hunter, Jivvi.
Now you claim hunter is most suspicious
It really should have been more like:

• How do you feel about Hunter27a1's behavior currently in contrast to his behavior in other games?
• Do you believe that myusername is defending Alpha102 too much? If so, why? If not, why do you think others believe so?

If there is a difference in Hunter's behavior, they should be able to notice it themselves. By pointing it out in the question, the person asked will automatically assume that the behavior is odd, regardless of whether they know Hunter's play style.
Those sound too much like test questions. I'm off from school. No tests pls
 
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