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cooliorules

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Calling Notty out.

From personal experience when people just blatantly say 'I'm not mafia' they generally turn out mafia.

I know it's not much to go on but slightly suspicious of notty.
Also that info is from epicmafia so yeah it's not epicmafia, blah blah blah, but when people outright say it, it pushes wrong button with me.
Can't see myself voting today honestly - I don't see any firm ground on anyone :/
I can see why people want to lynch fruit but it's not enough for me.

Sorry for not posting much - I've sorta only just recovered from being sick.
Also working 6 days this week (1 day down!) so I may be a little inactive if day starts again.
 

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Votecount 3.6 - the one where some stuff has happened




nottykitten - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Defiant_Blob, Jivvi, the road to ruin, digitalmez (Lynch in 6)
Jivvi - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Lee_Scar (Lynch in 9)
xxxFruitNinjaxXx - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - 77_is_the_best, endersteve5, nottykitten, CoffebeansCat (Lynch in 6)
timdood3 - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - jKangaroo (Lynch in 9)

Not voting: Jolteon42, Mad11gab8, catgirl(numbers), Ooglie101, timdood3, samlen , cooliorules, xXxFruitNinjaxXx


With 18 alive it will take 10 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday 12th of January 8pm GMT. That is 5:30hrs from now.
 

Enderfive

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pretty sure i missed any actual evidence being presented on fruit other than lazy voting? Is there anything massively damning about his behaviour?
Not really, but neither does anyone else, so going off purely on logic, I'm voting Fruit, since he has voted for the most likely lynch three days in a row now, has been pretty quiet and just seems to be bandwagoning and not really contributing much himself. I'd say he's the scummiest of those alive (because even though there's not much suggesting he's scum, the others have even less or nothing at all), therefore I'm voting him.

And if you're wondering why I don't consider Notty to be suspicious, then I personally haven't seen anything too scummy from her, and the only reasons I've seen for voting her so far have been, in my opinion, complete bullshit (no offense to those voting Notty, but I see absolutely no logic or reason in what you're doing). Therefore, I'm not voting her.
 

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Based on what I've been able to see so far, I'd rather lynch Fruit than Notty, but I'm not sure if I want either lynched... Fruit simply has just been relatively inactive and only voted to lynch someone without giving a lot of reasoning while Notty has admittedly been confusing, but she does seem actually somewhat likely to be what she says she is (role-wise) so I'd rather keep a potential bomb alive than someone that votes only to lynch. Since I won't be back in time for the deadline and we're going to have to choose one of these two to lynch...

Vote xXxFruitNinjaxXx
 

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Not really, but neither does anyone else, so going off purely on logic, I'm voting Fruit, since he has voted for the most likely lynch three days in a row now, has been pretty quiet and just seems to be bandwagoning and not really contributing much himself. I'd say he's the scummiest of those alive (because even though there's not much suggesting he's scum, the others have even less or nothing at all), therefore I'm voting him.

And if you're wondering why I don't consider Notty to be suspicious, then I personally haven't seen anything too scummy from her, and the only reasons I've seen for voting her so far have been, in my opinion, complete bullshit (no offense to those voting Notty, but I see absolutely no logic or reason in what you're doing). Therefore, I'm not voting her.
you do realise that flying under the radar is what both mafia and vulnerable PRs do (see: doctor)

fruit hasn't really been shifty at all so i expect him to flip as the latter if he's lynched


notty is absolutely suspicious. of course she's not scummy; she's claimed 3P and is making as big a mess of the town's leads as she can. we lynched Hunter for causing chaos, why aren't we lynching Notty?
 

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you do realise that flying under the radar is what both mafia and vulnerable PRs do (see: doctor)
Sure.

notty is absolutely suspicious. of course she's not scummy; she's claimed 3P and is making as big a mess of the town's leads as she can. we lynched Hunter for causing chaos, why aren't we lynching Notty?
She's suspicious but not scummy. Okay.
She's making a big mess out of town leads (what leads?). Okay (not that I'd have noticed it, though).
We lynched Hunter. Okay. (Protip: we didn't.) (Another protip: he wasn't scum in the end.)

almost everyone has reached a mutual agreement that your current claim is as fake as your last one
No, we haven't. Your conclusions matching with those of Defiant and Road don't mean that everyone's reached the same conclusion.


Look, the situation right now is as follows: Fruit isn't even trying to defend himself, which he should, if he was a townie. Notty, on the other hand, has been consistent in her claim and has proven her claim, too. The alignment is up for debate, yes, but I see no reason to not trust her claim of third party, either. The arguments made against Fruit, while weak, hold at least some merit. The arguments against Notty...

Okay, for example, let's take Coolio's argument against Notty. She says that if someone states they're not mafia, it means they're mafia. What kind of logic is that? If someone starts questioning a townie, who then states that he's not mafmafia, do you pounce on them saying that they're obviously mafia for saying that sentence? Of course you don't. Hell, I've explicitly stated that I am not mafia in this very game, but I don't see anyone accusing me for it.

Digi says that because Notty has been devious in past games, she's not to be trusted. Does that mean that if I, by chance, get a mafia role and play it good, then I can't be trusted again in any game? Of course not. You should only look at the evidence in front of you, in this game, or if you want to get meta, then maybe analyze the playstyle to see if any similarities turn up, although I regard that as not the smartest move as well.

I haven't seen one legitimate accusation against Notty. Give me one to discuss, and I will, but I don't want to discuss logic that isn't logic and reasons that aren't reasonable.
 

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Ok, well, the only reason I unvoted Notty was because she says she has a bomb. But there is also the chance that she doesn't have the bomb, thus her claim is fake and she is probably mafia. The bomb gives her a reason to say not to lynch her. WIFOM I know, but when lynching notty, she's either 3p or mafia, no chance of lynching town. I gave up to easily on my lynch, just because notty said something I don't even know is true.

And endersteve, the only reasoning I've seen so far is that I've been quiet. I was quiet the first two days because I didn't feel like reading 60 pages to catch up. So I just went with the bandwagon vote to make an appearance. Although they were bandwagon votes, Alpha was 3p and Ltin was caught in a lie. And I had ltin's role one game, where I was mafia, so I kind of based my voted off that. (Locksmith)

Vote NottyKitten
 

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(YES THAT GIF IS CRAPPY ON PURPOSE SO GO AWAY WITH YOUR OPINION)

nottykitten - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Defiant_Blob, Jivvi, the road to ruin, digitalmez, xXxFruitNinjaxXx (Lynch in 5)
Jivvi - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Lee_Scar (Lynch in 9)
xxxFruitNinjaxXx - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - 77_is_the_best, endersteve5, nottykitten, CoffebeansCat, samlen (Lynch in 5)
timdood3 - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - jKangaroo (Lynch in 9)

Not voting: Jolteon42, Mad11gab8, catgirl(numbers), Ooglie101, timdood3 , cooliorules,


With 18 alive it will take 10 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday 12th of January 8pm GMT. That is 3hrs from now. Please don't make me flip a coin.
 
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