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JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Wait, wait, wait, hold on a second.
WHEN has this happened? When have we seen someone loose their old role when converted?
As far as I know, the only people who we do know is cult was Duffie, and she's been dead for 2 days. We haven't even found another cult member, and even in the situation with Duffie we don't know if Duffie was in fact originally a cultist, or if she was converted based on her actions on the first day trying to prevent Alpha from getting lynched. Since that's still up for debate(and we really haven't even touched it) I don't know where this knowledge of loosing their role is coming from (outside of perhaps wiki's but those can't be trusted either).
It's also weird especially after you were so heavily pushing a few days back the idea that if Notty was recruited the cult would be getting overpowered or an arsenal of extremely good items with Notty's inventor role on their sides.
Ex:
So unless I've missed something in the last few days I find this incredibly strange, and would definitely like to know how you know that when someone gets converted they loose their old role.
Defiant_Blob
(￣^￣)ゞ
Honestly if Notty hadn't totally lied about their win condition multiple times I would have been more supportive of them.
Anyways, I used the Investigative Module on Notty, and I received no report >_< Roleblocked :X
Anyways, I used the Investigative Module on Notty, and I received no report >_< Roleblocked :X
Anyways, I think this has something to do with a conversion. Something yakuza-esque, except with less death involved? Not sure.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
Well, the Knife killed nobody, but was most definitely a fake.
My role is/was the Dancer and I had 3 night abilities/dances:
The Ballet - 'Dazzles' whoever visits me, blocking night actions except for kills.
The Tango - Tells me anyone who visited me that night.
The Jazz Dance - Delays all night actions used on me including kills.
I can not use the same dance twice in a row so I have to alternate, and using the knife meant I was unable to perform one that night. The ones I have used are:
Night 1 - Tango (I received that nobody visited me)
Night 2 - Jazz
Night 3 - Ballet
Night 4 - Knife
Like I said, the knife killed nobody, the target (which was Coolio <3) or myself but it did paralyse me meaning I am unable to perform night actions. I don't know whether this affect is permanent or temporary or whether it can be healed buuuut cooliorules were you affected in any way?
My role is/was the Dancer and I had 3 night abilities/dances:
The Ballet - 'Dazzles' whoever visits me, blocking night actions except for kills.
The Tango - Tells me anyone who visited me that night.
The Jazz Dance - Delays all night actions used on me including kills.
I can not use the same dance twice in a row so I have to alternate, and using the knife meant I was unable to perform one that night. The ones I have used are:
Night 1 - Tango (I received that nobody visited me)
Night 2 - Jazz
Night 3 - Ballet
Night 4 - Knife
Like I said, the knife killed nobody, the target (which was Coolio <3) or myself but it did paralyse me meaning I am unable to perform night actions. I don't know whether this affect is permanent or temporary or whether it can be healed buuuut cooliorules were you affected in any way?
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
R000000d
And no, I don't think I was affected? I had no messages so as far as I know, it... should have killed me o-o
I'm thankful that it didn't, but... wut..
I wasn't aware the cult spawned with some members. I was under the impression that the leader starts alone, is there a precedent to say otherwise?
To clarify when I was concerned about Notty turning over an arsenal I was talking about the items that had already been created. At the time we thought Notty had a bomb and there was nothing stopping her from saying "I'm probably going to be converted tonight, better make one last item that would help them". Just because she loses her role I don't think she would lose her inventory. I could be wrong but I don't see why that would be the case.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Your logic there was still flawed, but that doesn't matter to me by a whole lot, to be fair.
I see that some people are confused about Notty's attacker not dying. Guys, Notty didn't have a bomb, or if she did, it was a fake one given to her by someone else, like Ooglie's knife. Her role description says rather clearly that any actions she could use had to be used on others. There was no way she could protect herself in any way, and I'm guessing that's why she said she had a bomb, to keep her safe from any possible attacks by making the assailants second-guess their choice.
About Road being a possible cult member, I sort of recall myself having a similar idea earlier in the game. I'm not too sure if I stated it in the thread too, but it was mostly because of the whole "lynch Notty or else cult gets her" thing. Road seemed a bit too bent on taking out the cult then, not Notty in particular, but because he thought she was a prime target for cult recruitment. Him being so worried about the cult instead of mafia didn't really feel right to me. Now with Jk's catch there, the possibility has surfaced again in my mind, but I'd not lynch based on it just yet, even if simply because of the fact that the day is still young, a point with which probably everyone agrees with me on.
As for the "shady business deal", I haven't got the slightest idea what it would be, nor do I think there's much to be learned about it unless the other party involved in the deal turns up and wants to share information about it (which I doubt, since "shady" looks like it's something people wouldn't really want to talk about if they didn't have to) or turns up dead and we get an idea about the deal through the role description of said person, which I don't find likely, either, since Tim's description didn't really say much about it besides it existing, so why should the other one?
And finally, to clear up any confusion about last evening and to prevent any speculation on why I'm suddenly less vocal than before, my computer shuts itself down when we connect it to internet and my tablet's stuck in boot. My dad and I are trying to find a way to fix both issues, both for our own reasons and when we find time and will for it (so it may take a while), but in the meanwhile, my only options for getting online remain my sister's smartphone (which she doesn't really want to give me and it's hellishly difficult to do any proper browsing on it anyway), a public internet access place (how do you call them?) and my dad's laptop (which would actually be a decent option if my dad wasn't convinced that my being online is the source of all my problems, starting with my brain injury and ending with my room not being in the condition he'd like it to be, and everything that falls and doesn't fall inbetween those two), which means that my time online is very much limited.
(And my reasons for voting Lee, in a nutshell, were his sudden inactivity (I did miss the technical difficulties thing, if I'd noticed that I'd probably thought my vote over) compared to the beginning of the game and I had a gut feeling about him. Sadly, it turned out to be wrong.)
Could we also get our lie detector to say something about what she investigated this night and what the result was? I don't mean to rush and I know that some people haven't probably seen the night's results yet, but I'll just throw this in anyway to make sure Mad doesn't forget about it.
"If you claim inventor, you may invent one device each night and give it to a player of your choosing other than yourself."
Ok that makes a lot more sense than anything else, didn't realize that was there xP
Road seems to be very assumptive when it comes to the cult... or knows more about it than we do. I think that, at the very least, we should have 77 check him out to make sure he's not a cultist.
Ok that makes a lot more sense than anything else, didn't realize that was there xP
Road seems to be very assumptive when it comes to the cult... or knows more about it than we do. I think that, at the very least, we should have 77 check him out to make sure he's not a cultist.
The statement I investigated last night was the truth and for the better of the town I will not out them as it would be giving mafia an easy target, still extremely tired and school starts tomorrow so my posts will most likely be short for a few days.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Okay, just to make things a little more clear for myself, I'm gonna do a little claim table and then maybe voice my opinions on everyone alive, to possibly stir up discussion.
Claims:
77_is_the_best - Unnamed (?) anti-cult role, can protect people from being converted on odd nights and can investigate people to determine if they're cult or not on even nights. Win condition is to eliminate the cult (?).
Cooliorules - no claim.
Jolteon42 - no claim.
endersteve5 - no claim, but declared innocent by Notty, the dead third party Pathological Liar (and inventor, cop and (?) doctor for all intents and purposes). (I use yellow because "innocent" can mean both town or third party.)
Samlen - no claim.
The road to ruin - no claim.
Ooglie101 - Dancer, can dance three dances (use three abilities) during the night, can only use one dance per night and can't dance the same dance twice in a row. If he should choose to use an item on that night, he cannot dance. The dances are the ballet, which blocks all night actions except kills used on him, the tango, which tells him the names of everyone that visited him that night, and the jazz dance, which delays all night actions, including kills, used on him that night.
CaffeinatedKitty - Protector (role name?), blocks all night actions used on the target that night.
Jkangaroo - Unnamed pro-3rd party role, no night abilities (?), win condition is to have three third parties other than himself (?) alive when the game ends.
xXxFruitNinjaxXx - no claim.
Mad11gab8 - Lie Detector, can take a part of a post from the previous day to analyze it during the night. Result is either true or false.
Defiant_Blob - no claim.
catgirl12466 - no claim? (I have a feeling she did claim, but I can't really recall if she did and if so, then what the claim was.)
My opinions and notes (suspicions and people that may not have the town's best interest at heart in italics):
77 - no particular opinion. His claim seems plausible enough for me to believe it.
Coolio - Coolio is typically quiet in the beginning and then gets active when the game is in it's later half. So far she's been fairly predictable, I see no particular reason to suspect her. I suppose she should get active soon enough, will be waiting for that to form an opinion.
Jolt - no particular opinion. I do note his quietness, though.
Ender - hi.
Samlen - no particular opinion. Samlen has a funny way of saying a lot without actually saying anything, so I'm a little more wary of him than the others, perhaps, because he is good at seeming active and contributive without actually being the latter, but I've seen nothing to make me suspicious of him.
Road - the man in the spotlight right now. Yes, I guess he has a little more going against him than the others. I'm not entirely sure if I want to lynch him for it, but if no other discussion comes up or no other suspects emerge, I'll vote him or the next person on the list,
Ooglie - okay, I'll believe him for now, but I am also a little suspicious of him. Ooglie never stated his alignment, so there's two possibilities why that is. Either he simply forgot... or he deliberately left it out so that if/when Mad investigated him, he'd turn up true, without us actually learning a single thing about his alignment. And if the latter is the case, he's most likely anti-town, since if he wasn't, he'd have no reason to leave the alignment out.
Caffeina - fairly unsuspicious. I don't see anything indicating she could be anti-town, and her claimed role is fairly important, so not a lynch candidate for me.
Jkang - I'll believe his claim. However, I also take anything he says about the cult with a grain of salt, because the cult is technically third party, and therefore falls under his win condition. Therefore, he's most likely to try and keep the cult alive, which means that he'll most likely try to steer our attention off the cult and on to mafia, where in actuality we should keep the both in mind.
Fruit - fairly inactive, I forgot he was in the game. If it was possible to speak more, I'd appreciate it much, even if it's just for me to be able to form an opinion on him.
Mad11gab - same deal as Caffeina, I don't think there's anything to say that she's anti-town.
Defiant - scumhunts, uses logic and has some definite standing points. I don't think he's anti-town, even if I do disagree with some things he's said.
catgirl - mind goes blank when I think about her in the game. Pretty much the same as Fruit, in my eyes.
Well, that's about it. Perhaps we should look more at the people that have slid under the radar so far, such as Fruit or cat, although I have no idea what exactly we should look for in them, considering how they're so damn quiet that I find it difficult to form any kind of an opinion on them.
Claims:
77_is_the_best - Unnamed (?) anti-cult role, can protect people from being converted on odd nights and can investigate people to determine if they're cult or not on even nights. Win condition is to eliminate the cult (?).
Cooliorules - no claim.
Jolteon42 - no claim.
endersteve5 - no claim, but declared innocent by Notty, the dead third party Pathological Liar (and inventor, cop and (?) doctor for all intents and purposes). (I use yellow because "innocent" can mean both town or third party.)
Samlen - no claim.
The road to ruin - no claim.
Ooglie101 - Dancer, can dance three dances (use three abilities) during the night, can only use one dance per night and can't dance the same dance twice in a row. If he should choose to use an item on that night, he cannot dance. The dances are the ballet, which blocks all night actions except kills used on him, the tango, which tells him the names of everyone that visited him that night, and the jazz dance, which delays all night actions, including kills, used on him that night.
CaffeinatedKitty - Protector (role name?), blocks all night actions used on the target that night.
Jkangaroo - Unnamed pro-3rd party role, no night abilities (?), win condition is to have three third parties other than himself (?) alive when the game ends.
xXxFruitNinjaxXx - no claim.
Mad11gab8 - Lie Detector, can take a part of a post from the previous day to analyze it during the night. Result is either true or false.
Defiant_Blob - no claim.
catgirl12466 - no claim? (I have a feeling she did claim, but I can't really recall if she did and if so, then what the claim was.)
My opinions and notes (suspicions and people that may not have the town's best interest at heart in italics):
77 - no particular opinion. His claim seems plausible enough for me to believe it.
Coolio - Coolio is typically quiet in the beginning and then gets active when the game is in it's later half. So far she's been fairly predictable, I see no particular reason to suspect her. I suppose she should get active soon enough, will be waiting for that to form an opinion.
Jolt - no particular opinion. I do note his quietness, though.
Ender - hi.
Samlen - no particular opinion. Samlen has a funny way of saying a lot without actually saying anything, so I'm a little more wary of him than the others, perhaps, because he is good at seeming active and contributive without actually being the latter, but I've seen nothing to make me suspicious of him.
Road - the man in the spotlight right now. Yes, I guess he has a little more going against him than the others. I'm not entirely sure if I want to lynch him for it, but if no other discussion comes up or no other suspects emerge, I'll vote him or the next person on the list,
Ooglie - okay, I'll believe him for now, but I am also a little suspicious of him. Ooglie never stated his alignment, so there's two possibilities why that is. Either he simply forgot... or he deliberately left it out so that if/when Mad investigated him, he'd turn up true, without us actually learning a single thing about his alignment. And if the latter is the case, he's most likely anti-town, since if he wasn't, he'd have no reason to leave the alignment out.
Caffeina - fairly unsuspicious. I don't see anything indicating she could be anti-town, and her claimed role is fairly important, so not a lynch candidate for me.
Jkang - I'll believe his claim. However, I also take anything he says about the cult with a grain of salt, because the cult is technically third party, and therefore falls under his win condition. Therefore, he's most likely to try and keep the cult alive, which means that he'll most likely try to steer our attention off the cult and on to mafia, where in actuality we should keep the both in mind.
Fruit - fairly inactive, I forgot he was in the game. If it was possible to speak more, I'd appreciate it much, even if it's just for me to be able to form an opinion on him.
Mad11gab - same deal as Caffeina, I don't think there's anything to say that she's anti-town.
Defiant - scumhunts, uses logic and has some definite standing points. I don't think he's anti-town, even if I do disagree with some things he's said.
catgirl - mind goes blank when I think about her in the game. Pretty much the same as Fruit, in my eyes.
Well, that's about it. Perhaps we should look more at the people that have slid under the radar so far, such as Fruit or cat, although I have no idea what exactly we should look for in them, considering how they're so damn quiet that I find it difficult to form any kind of an opinion on them.
Fruit
Brrraaaaaiiiinnnnsss
oh.
well.
To avoid my similar death in SCP, I shall not use thiiiis. T'was a Knife, not sure if you can make that
Perhaps someone on the first Night died from the same thing since there seemed to be quite a bit more than usual.
Wow what a liar.
Of course :3
All of the claims right now seem pretty sound, Road is also my main Fos because of reasons already stated (dont have much time to post right now) Anyway school starts today so my activity will decrease a bit.