TBD [Status: GAME OVER]

JKangaroo

JKangaroo

Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Joined
Dec 25, 2011
Messages
610
Reaction score
2,132
30 20 10 15 5 10 2 1
CaffeinatedKitty said:
Well, whose roles have you uncovered?
Click to expand...
Indeed, I would also like to know. It's been---four nights/5 days?
You must have used such a power at some point, which could be helpful to know.
Plus maybe more specifics? What does the "chance" start out with/increase over time? 25% increased chance per night/day? 15% Or maybe some other kind of system? I don't know.w
And it doesn't necessarily explain alignment either even if you did claim third-party, but then that's just speculative and could be said for most claims...
 
Samlen

Samlen

Member
Mafia Host
Joined
Nov 1, 2012
Messages
187
Reaction score
353
20 15 10 5 10 1 2
Oh that's neat, even with two mafia teams noone died. It means you're doing a good job, Caff xD So for the sake of getting questions started, what happened yesterday? We were close(ish) to lynching Jolt or Road, and, out of nowhere, a bw formed on Coolio and we got our 2nd mafia in 6 days ._. I'm not complaining, but I would still love an explanation...
 
Jolterino

Jolterino

'_>'
Mafia Host
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
1,090
Reaction score
1,931
20 30 20 15 10 10 5 2 1
Samlen said:
Oh that's neat, even with two mafia teams noone died. It means you're doing a good job, Caff xD So for the sake of getting questions started, what happened yesterday? We were close(ish) to lynching Jolt or Road, and, out of nowhere, a bw formed on Coolio and we got our 2nd mafia in 6 days ._. I'm not complaining, but I would still love an explanation...
Click to expand...
Nobody knowed who to vote but since me and coolio were the most inactive votes started to form on us. I was able to defend myself which switched 77's vote around and got her lynched.
 
Enderfive

Enderfive

sarcasm incarnate
Mafia Host
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
4,802
25 20 30 20 15 10 5 10 2 1
Quoted from a post I made in my inn (again, GmK, I really do hope that's allowed and since you said nothing against it when I asked you if I could quote it, then I'll go ahead and assume it's allowed):

This is getting very interesting.

I wonder if there's two mafia factions, considering that Digitalmez was a part of the Sexy Mafiosi and Coolio was just... mafia. Then again, I find it hard to believe there'd be two mafia factions in a game where there's most likely more third parties than mafia.

So anyway, the reasons I voted for Coolio were as follows:

First of all, she was pretty focused on getting Notty out starting from the point she claimed. I didn't notice it at first, but I was skimming over the whole hundred pages of the game (and about a half of it was useless filler) and I saw a post from Caff which accused Coolio of tunneling Notty... and when I checked over it, I was surprised to see that Caff wasn't actually far off. The thing that set her apart from Road or Defiant, though (who also liked to find things against Notty), was that she was being much more careful in what she said. When a lot of people were saying Notty was suspicious, she was saying strong things as well, but when I and Jk emerged as Notty's defenders of sorts, she toned it down. When Caff accused her of tunneling Notty, she said it was only a light suspicion, nothing else (page 97), whereas in two of her earlier posts concerning Notty she seemed to feel pretty strong about her.

Now, the question here is, why would she want to get a potential cop/inventor out? There would be two options that are logical:

a) She thought Notty was lying,
or
b) she wanted to get one of the most valuable roles for the town out of the way.

But here's the thing: if it was option a), she would've been more rash and more vocal about it, like she has been in previous games when she thought someone to be mafia. She was being a bit too careful about it for my liking and I felt there was some other reason behind it than simply doubting her judgement. Plus, she was only being careful when it was needed, when it looked like Notty was about to go down anyway, she looked pretty certain she was lying and had to go down.

The second thing that made me vote for Coolio was her overall carefulness. I don't know, it's pretty bad reasoning, yes, but something about her posts didn't feel right when I skimmed over them.

The third thing (and the thing that made me go look at her posts in more detail) was her reaction to Ooglie's claim. At first she didn't seem to think much of it, only commenting on his use of the knife on her. And then, with less than 24 hours to the deadline, she suddenly found some "slip" in the form of the present/past tense thing. The whole thing was so clear and (iirc) already explained once (at least it was definitely questioned already (and frankly, I don't see why there was any need to question it in the first place, it made perfect sense if you only bothered to read the whole post that Ooglie made)), that it gave me the feeling that Coolio just wanted to find something to vote on (even though (iirc) she had previously stated she'd remain voteless this day) and get a lynch out of the day on some imaginary reason. Didn't feel right at all, so I went over the rest of her posts and found the rest.

So there you have it, my reasons for voting Coolio.
Click to expand...
I apologize for not getting my thoughts there before the day was over, but I had to make a vote before the deadline and I didn't have access to a computer yesterday, sadly, so I didn't really get time for much more than forming the theory against Coolio and making the vote.


Now, there are a few things we need to be mindful of right now.

The first would be the fact that Coolio could perhaps not have been of the same mafia faction as Digi was, as suggested by the role names. There's a number of things this could mean. Firstly, the mafia factions put together could at this point already outnumber us. Secondly, the mafia factions will be fighting each other as well, so voting patterns and such may not be as valid grounds for declaring someone innocent or guilty any more. Thirdly, when we consider the cult, then it's possible some of the mafiosi have also been recruited by the cult, which we could perhaps use against the lot of them somehow, although I'm not terribly sure as to how that would look, exactly. Although, bear in mind, this is a rather weak theory and is supported only by the role names, and discredited by some other things, as I'm about to explain.

The second thing would be the lack of deaths in the night. The way I see it, there's a number of things that could've happened. Either the victim was protected, or the assailants were roleblocked or they hit a bulletproof or a bleeder. Or something else. I don't really know. What I do find likely, though, is that the mafia (or two mafias, but as I said before, I find that theory rather weak and mostly because of the low kill count) is the only faction or role with a power that allows them to kill every night. The kill count has been low on all the nights besides the first one, so I don't think there's any role here that would be able to kill every night besides the mafia(s), since they probably would've used their killing powers if they could've.

As usual, I'll wait for our PRs to say what they did before coming up with anything further.
 
JKangaroo

JKangaroo

Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Joined
Dec 25, 2011
Messages
610
Reaction score
2,132
30 20 10 15 5 10 2 1
Speaking of Jolt, I would like to ask the same question I did yesterday:
Indeed, I would also like to know. It's been---four nights/5 days?
You must have used such a power at some point, which could be helpful to know.
Plus maybe more specifics? What does the "chance" start out with/increase over time? 25% increased chance per night/day? 15% Or maybe some other kind of system? I don't know.
And it doesn't necessarily show what your win condition is which is interesting. -Added now
Click to expand...
And judging from what you also said yesterday, you were going to use your power as the "Unlucky Oracle" tonight.

I... guess that goes along the lines of power roles.
I believe those who have claimed have been... Caff, 77, Mad, and... Ooglie?
I'll probably just wait like ender for night results.

Since this is a fresh day, Ima list the current player list and claims for a refresher:
(I probably forgot some stuff, sorry bout that.)
  • [BCOLOR=#ff6600]77_is_the_best[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Third-party who protects people from converting to the cult on Odd Nights, and investigates for cults on Even Nights. Claimed to have an investigation module.
  • [BCOLOR=#ff6600]Jolteon42[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Third-party Unlucky Oracle.
  • [BCOLOR=#ffff00]endersteve5[/BCOLOR] - Unclaimed; but investigated by Notty and shown as "Not Guilty" (Town? 3p? Godfather? etc?)
  • Samlen - Unclaimed
  • [BCOLOR=#ff6600]the road to ruins[/BCOLOR] - Claim Third-party (I think?)
  • [BCOLOR=#00ff00]Ooglie101[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Townie Dancer, used N1)"Tango"(Tells who visits), N2)"Jazz"(Delays Night Actions), N3)"Ballet"(blocking night actions except kills), N4)"Knife"(Paralyzed Ooglie so he couldn't use his rolepowers last night)
  • [BCOLOR=#00ff00]Caffeinatedkitten[/BCOLOR] - Claimed a protective role
  • [BCOLOR=#ff6600]jKangaroo[/BCOLOR] - Claimed third-party
  • [BCOLOR=#ff6600]xXxFruitNinjaxXx[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Third-party Survivor
  • [BCOLOR=#00ff00]Mad11gab8[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Town Lie-Detector; Detected 77 and ____
  • [BCOLOR=#00ff00]Defiant_Blob[/BCOLOR] - Claimed Town Mystery Power Role; had an investigation and used on Notty which was roleblocked.
  • catgirl(numbers) - Something. Claims she knows who visits her at night and doesn't want town to visit her.
 
Jolterino

Jolterino

'_>'
Mafia Host
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
1,090
Reaction score
1,931
20 30 20 15 10 10 5 2 1
Hehe. I might've lied a bit. But I guess I should come clean now.

Hello, I am the Inexperienced Bombmaker. Every night I decide if I want to work on a bomb or hand it to somebody. The chance goes up by 25% each time I work on it up to a 100% chance. Handing it to somebody makes them go boom. The Unlucky Oracle was a completely made up role based off of my real role and I apologize for lying to you but I just wanted the highest chance of not getting lynched. And it is technically true that I can reveal somebody's role. (When they die.) I got a feeling the towns gonna hate me though. :(

Now that that's out of the way I will go looking into some vote patterns now that Coolio has been revealed as mafia.
 
The Road to Ruin

The Road to Ruin

Member
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
148
Reaction score
263
10 5 10 2 1
Jolteon42 said:
Hehe. I might've lied a bit. But I guess I should come clean now.

Hello, I am the Inexperienced Bombmaker. Every night I decide if I want to work on a bomb or hand it to somebody. The chance goes up by 25% each time I work on it up to a 100% chance. Handing it to somebody makes them go boom. The Unlucky Oracle was a completely made up role based off of my real role and I apologize for lying to you but I just wanted the highest chance of not getting lynched. And it is technically true that I can reveal somebody's role. (When they die.) I got a feeling the towns gonna hate me though. :(

Now that that's out of the way I will go looking into some vote patterns now that Coolio has been revealed as mafia.
Click to expand...
So your a third party that kills? If we aren't lynching defiant I can't see a better suspect for the gallows.
 
Defiant_Blob

Defiant_Blob

(￣^￣)ゞ
Donor
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Messages
2,631
Reaction score
2,051
25 30 20 20 15 10 10 2 5 1
77_is_the_best said:
I used my module on Defiant and it came innocent. If the module is like the one Road received then that would mean Defiant is mafia so unless someone wants to come up and say they gave me this module and it actually gives a legit investigation I'll be voting Defiant.
Click to expand...
We actually know very little about the modules really?

Like, the modules could be set by the giver to be innocent or so?
That is, they give an Investigation Module rigged to say guilty, the next day the module flips guilty. The person dies, is innocent, and so everyone thinks the Modules are always wrong. But the Mafia then gives an Investigation Module that's rigged to say innocent, so that way everyone kills whoever it flips innocent on.
>Mafia gives roadtoruin an Investigation Module (rigged Guilty).
>Roadtoruin gets Guilty on Nottykitten
>Mafia kills Nottykitten
>Town is now convinced Investigation Modules give opposite report
>Mafia gives 77 an Investigation Module (rigged Innocent)
>77 gets Innocent on me
>Town might think I'm mafia now, due to the reverse psychology

Or third parties could count as guilty, and so Notty really would be counted as guilty?

Following the investigation modules is an easy way to fall into the mafia's trap really.
(also, sorry if this sounds overly-defensive, I'm just not on as often as I'd like so I'm trying to make each post count while I am on.)

Also, I would advise that you guys wait until I role-claim before placing a single vote on me.
But I won't roleclaim until a larger portion of the town suggests I do.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top