77 said:
It's mainly the fact that you're choosing to not even acknowledge that my current theory on you could be plausible for me with the information I have
Honestly I don't know what theory there is for me to acknowledge (unless I did before but I've forgotten...)
If it's the deal with module and Defiant, then I do concede that I can believe that the module turned up guilty and that Defiant is Mafia, I feel like I somewhat leaned that way after the post asking catgirl about herself, even if Cat didn't kill Alpha. It's certainly a possibility, and if you believe Defiant should be voted just go for it. I still wonder a couple of things, like why, if your goal was to kill cult and wanted to appear helpful to both Mafia and town so neither would target you, why now you want to lynch Defiant so much. Unless I'm also remembering your stance wrong on this then woops, but otherwise it's still weird.
If your theory is the case that I'm cult, then I would say that I've always acknowledge the possibility, since I still hold onto the belief that anyone and everyone can be cult, or mafia, or etc (just like I do every game) until proven otherwise. At this point in time however I do claim that I am not a cult member.
In fact, I don't mind, and would encourage Mad to lie detect me (if he can), seeing as I guess my claim currently is the most controversial. (And I didn't even have to claim!)
I will state what I said before:
I win if I'm alive at the end of the game. I am third-party. I am not apart of the cult at the time of writing this.
Plus whatever I said in my last claim about what I can give out each night, if you want that repeated please do not hesitate to ask.
And if those are not the theories im supposed to acknowledge then I need a reminder because I have no idea if thats the case.
Ender said:
I'd like to propose the theory that Caff (and possibly Jk) is cult
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The reason I suspect both Caff and Jk is the fact that they both seem to favour lynching mafia over cult. Why? The cult is as big a threat to the town's victory as the mafia is (since I'm fairly sure the cult winning would mean loss to the town as well as the mafia)
Indeed, that could be very true.
But then that's still under the assumption (since except for those in the cult, all we know about the cult is once again Duffie who showed up as third-party with these win condition: "Wins if Cultists reach a guaranteed vote majority") that the game ends when the cult reaches this vote majority, and that's something we honestly don't know.
I've been under the impression that, because Duffie turned out third-party, and since third-party wins don't end the game as claimed in the beginning :
Potential Third party wins will not end the game. It will continue on. As a matter of fact, third party wins will not be announced in the game thread, only on completion of the game together with the winning party. Third party roles are informed in their PM once they have won, and are free to use that information in any way they wish.
So we can assume multiple things:
-Either the cult is completely a third-party group that falls in line with these statements and so the game will go on (which I personally believe)
-Or that the cult acts in a similar manner as Town and Mafia, which is somewhat hinted by the third sentence though I still find it doubtful. This assumption however indicates a 4th area of loyalty: Townies who are loyal to the town winning by removing the Mafia (I don't know if the "remove all threats to town" is apart of the town win condition), Mafia who are loyal to Mafia, third-parties who are only loyal to themselves, and the Cult who could be a variety of roles due to their conversion ability and are loyal to the cult.
Frankly I base most of my reasoning off the first assumption.
But your right, I could very well be the second, and any remaining townies should be worried if said assumption is the case since it could very well result in a town AND mafia loss...
But then again, I'm third-party, why should I care who wins? I only care about living until the end of the game.
However I always play with the towns priorities in mind(even when playing as a Mafia since everyone is town until proven or claimed otherwise except in reverse mafs), so whether you believe me or trust me or want to be skeptical or suspicious of me or any combination of anything, I don't really care.
But if you do, thank you, I try my best to present multiple theories, points of view, and interesting leads to help gather information. *thumbs up*
Anyways we still have a few people who haven't really talked like Mad, Ooglie, and fruit, so we can get more opinions on the current situation as it progresses.
I'm going to read back and look at some things I found interesting or may be contradictions that were said previously or etc and probably also make that list we did yesterday stating our stance on people.
And I think its time for class.
Happy hunting~
