cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
Considering raxo is no help to the town (even if he is town, more damage is caused by his confusion/play style) I will vote him if no other suspicions come up within the next... 48 hours or so.
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cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
Eh, feel how you'll feel but I'm simply trying to help the town.
And just going to point out, you're grabbing at straws for me just as I did for Marrrss....(? can't remember who s: )
I didn't even think that whomever it was is suspicious (heck can't even remember who it was oops)
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
I'm trying to be active and note things but considering no one else is, there's nothing for me to comment on.
Why don't we start by listing anyone that each player finds suspicious, even if only slightly.
My suspicions so far would be katman (not sure why, just a hunch I guess) and raxo because even though we try to get him to change the way he's playing (that might not make sense. I'm trying to get homework done and have some input here before I go out with family for dinner s: )
Why don't we start by listing anyone that each player finds suspicious, even if only slightly.
My suspicions so far would be katman (not sure why, just a hunch I guess) and raxo because even though we try to get him to change the way he's playing (that might not make sense. I'm trying to get homework done and have some input here before I go out with family for dinner s: )
These quotes are in the wrong order but
wow where have we seen this before? Personally I'm not buying the """classic coolio"" this time around.
your suspicions go from
your inconsistency as well as your lack of massive contributions apart from the occasional 'fos' to sort of make sure discussion stays away from you is something i don't at all like. you're pouncing on every mistake the new or less advanced/smooth-talking players make, before backing off quickly once you can't get them lynched. personally, i see this as a mafia trying to rush the end of the game by loading mislynches on top of their night kills. after losing all townies (with the exception of noah) at night, i don't think we can make any more mistakes.
vote cooliorules.
CaffeinatedKitty
Intoxicated Feline
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You've got a good point. I wanted to call out the same thing earlier, but I didn't want to look like I was grasping at straws because I suck at collecting evidence...
Vote cooliorules
You've got a good point. I wanted to call out the same thing earlier, but I didn't want to look like I was grasping at straws because I suck at collecting evidence...
Vote cooliorules
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
OH YES BECAUSE EVERYONE IS CONTRIBUTING!!!
I'm simply trying to start some sort of discussion.
Anyway, as for a response that is hopefully somewhat grammatically correct and can be understood;
Your point on my foses changing:
Oh my god because that never happens?
Iirc the naoh and raxo was last day?
Naoh has basically been nonexistent, which has made him drop out of my mind.
Raxo was in common, so not completely different (which you made it out to seem as if they were completely different foses. They weren't!)
Katman has no evidence behind, as I stated it was a hunch. Very very light hunch so not going to follow it up whatsoever.
I honestly don't know what you mean by 'classic coolio'. Not just you, but anyone. It's something that people often say but I don't mean to play the same (which is obvious, due to the given name) but it happens. I don't see how people can change their play styles honestly. I guess if I put my mind to it hard enough I could, but I don't see why we should. Play style shouldn't matter in my opinion (unless it consistently damages the town).
I think I'm blabbing on, so I'll continue
I guess this is just the way I play, but I'm trying to do my best for the benefit of the town.
If I make mistakes which leads me to looking suspicious, then so be it.
(part of this paragraph was added in after I had done the last 2 lines so sorry if it doesn't make sense)
I don't state my foses occasionally to 'make sure discussion stays away from you' but rather, when it was dead silent like it was before my post, to start discussion so it isn't dead silent. If it backfires on me? So be it. I've said that a lot, but at least I achieved my goal of starting discussion. It provides more evidence for town to go on if I do end up being lynched.
I think that's it for Jivvi's post.
Now for Caff:
5 minutes after Jivvi's post:
1. Quick to pounce. Try to at least state the reasons yourself, not just "you have a good point <vote>"
2. Backing up the reason as to why you didn't point it out earlier? Look, hun, I've not given evidence for anything have I? Because there hasn't been much, so I just mention it. Mentioning it can sometimes trigger other people to find evidence, so if you had mentioned it (instead of staying silent), Jivvi could have found some of this evidence sooner. I'm disregarding his statement about my foses changing because from my point of view it seems silly.
I don't fos you two, I just think you have read things from the wrong point of view and are making silly mistakes.
Now come on guys, speak up! We can't let it stay silent!
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
In other news, I might be a little quieter (though that would basically mean no posts at all considering the current activity) due to someone staying at mine for the next 3-4 days. I'll still be able to post I think :)
caff really has a valid point
anyone who even tried to start discussion got shot down by marskid, or to a lesser extent, you
half of your response posts looks really petty:
pointing out things and making out that they put caff at fault when they don't really, at all:
more attempted invalidation through either treating my point as amusing or just pretending like your innocence is common knowledge.
this meshes with the 'classic coolio' dismissal, which while you claim to be oblivious to, you're pretty flagrantly abusing it to keep flying under the radar.
my vote stays
anyone who even tried to start discussion got shot down by marskid, or to a lesser extent, you
half of your response posts looks really petty:
there's also more deflection:
pointing out things and making out that they put caff at fault when they don't really, at all:
i haven't made this post yet because i haven't had time to make anything large. you can't make an exasperated exclamation about how nobody is contributing and then single out caff for being inactive. 'this evidence' (strange phrasing since i'm against you), was really just my own suspicions manifesting as a result of you continuing to act suspicious, at least from my perspective.
again, with the ungrounded "i'm town ok" statements. not even going to comment here.
"hey guys start talking jivvi and caff don't count because they were against me"
more attempted invalidation through either treating my point as amusing or just pretending like your innocence is common knowledge.
what
this is an invalid argument at this stage of the game since we can only afford so many more mislynches.
more acting as if your innocence is common knowledge
this meshes with the 'classic coolio' dismissal, which while you claim to be oblivious to, you're pretty flagrantly abusing it to keep flying under the radar.
my vote stays
Looks like something is happening, so now I can get a better read on at least 2 people. I'll withhold my vote for now, since I'd like to see more happen before rushing the day's end, but at least we won't completely go for a random lynch. For now, I'll poke (mostly) Notty and Caff to see if they'd like to put more thought behind their post.... though I guess Caff somewhat did this, it'd always be nice for more on their thoughts.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
I apologize again for my low activity, I have been busy with other things and was planning to take this up seriously tomorrow or on Thursday, but it seems Jivvi has taken the town to lead, so I'll just roll with it.
Most of your post isn't really providing any actual, logical arguments against the ones made against you, instead it's mostly ridiculing, assuring that you're town (by saying you're town, which you have stated makes people look suspicious to you), portraying yourself as a martyr and then quickly finding a new target to draw attention off who you attack rather aggressively right away. Even though Caff could've restated her opinions on the matter, you are by far a better choice for a lynch today than she is.
vote cooliorules
Basically this. Even though Jivvi did bring up some fairly valid points in his first bigger post, Coolio's reaction to it sealed the deal for me and Jivvi pointed out the same things I would've in his next post.
Most of your post isn't really providing any actual, logical arguments against the ones made against you, instead it's mostly ridiculing, assuring that you're town (by saying you're town, which you have stated makes people look suspicious to you), portraying yourself as a martyr and then quickly finding a new target to draw attention off who you attack rather aggressively right away. Even though Caff could've restated her opinions on the matter, you are by far a better choice for a lynch today than she is.
vote cooliorules
So, in interest of breaking the silence, I'm going to lay all of my cards down on the table.
Clearly the issue right now centers around shifting focuses, and in this regard Jivvi is no more innocent than Coolio. After Coolio's cryptic posts you immediately shifted off of me and onto her. It's definitely not a baseless observation, and Coolio is under everybody's radar now, but it seems we're forgetting some important details here.
1. Jivvi crusaded against me and Raxo, Notty, and Naoh were incredibly eager to leap onto the ship. Naoh turned up pirate after an incredibly suspicious hammer vote from Raxo, which has, for some reason, gone without notice today. If there was to be any easy, knee-jerk reaction vote today, Raxo should be the first choice.
2. Coolio is indeed suspicious. I'm not going to try to argue against that. She definitely had some very off-putting posts, but the quick voting against her is a little hasty.
3. We are ALL shifting or focus, and we need to start centering it. After the brief wagoning of the last day, I think it's clear the mafia got very eager at a wagoning prospect, and Raxo overstepped himself.
Vote Raxo
Clearly the issue right now centers around shifting focuses, and in this regard Jivvi is no more innocent than Coolio. After Coolio's cryptic posts you immediately shifted off of me and onto her. It's definitely not a baseless observation, and Coolio is under everybody's radar now, but it seems we're forgetting some important details here.
1. Jivvi crusaded against me and Raxo, Notty, and Naoh were incredibly eager to leap onto the ship. Naoh turned up pirate after an incredibly suspicious hammer vote from Raxo, which has, for some reason, gone without notice today. If there was to be any easy, knee-jerk reaction vote today, Raxo should be the first choice.
2. Coolio is indeed suspicious. I'm not going to try to argue against that. She definitely had some very off-putting posts, but the quick voting against her is a little hasty.
3. We are ALL shifting or focus, and we need to start centering it. After the brief wagoning of the last day, I think it's clear the mafia got very eager at a wagoning prospect, and Raxo overstepped himself.
Vote Raxo
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Cooliorules [4] - Jivvi, CaffeinatedKitty, Nottykitten, Enderfive [4 left to lynch]
Raxo2222 [1] - Marskid [7 left to lynch]
With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch and 8 to no lynch.
Cooliorules [4] - Jivvi, CaffeinatedKitty, Nottykitten, Enderfive [4 left to lynch]
Raxo2222 [1] - Marskid [7 left to lynch]
With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch and 8 to no lynch.
Silence? Everyone just got going.
No. I stated way back that coolio was rubbing me the wrong way, and after poking back through I decided I found her more suspicious than you.
Most? of the posts putting a vote on coolio have had valid reasoning also.
You're picking up where coolio left off and gunning for the easy target. Raxo not pulling off his actions seamlessly is no real indication of his alignment.
To elaborate:
Notty provided reasoning on that one, while Raxo and Noah less so. This is explained by Noah's being the pirate, but it suggests that Raxo may have known what he was doing to land a hammer vote on the SK. If someone's coordinated taking out the SK, my bets are on it being the cop. Seeing as the cop is dead, that looks towards the stalker or perhaps a hidden ability. Since early on mafia would do well to keep the SK alive, my bet is on a town power.
Fruit
Brrraaaaaiiiinnnnsss
Raxo's vote was not a "hammer" vote.
Naoh would have been lynched without his vote.
And honestly katman is at the top of my FoS list. Out right saying that he thinks he himself looks suspicious (basically) just throws up red flags for me. I can understand what he's saying, but saying it before any argument was brought up against him just threw me off.
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