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The universe would explode.

I was inclined to believe Jolt at first but now I think he might just be claiming Jailer to explain how he roleblocked me, while at the same time claiming to be important for the town as a doctor. Probs because he knew just claiming town roleblocker might not of been good enough to not get lynched.

So my vote stays.
ok this may just be me thinking into it too hard but
does anyone else think jolt just searched up a role that could roleblock and was town sided so he could claim it
To be quite honest, he strangely had that extra part that was also in my list of abilities as a typical Jailer, if that's uncommon. Surely it's just coincidence, though.
literally everyone going for the jolt bandwagon is parroting the same line, and this is just a hypothetical

Not a good jail target. It wouldn't protect me from anything barring death.
Wouldn't you want to stay alive, as a townie, to help the town win?
A third party jailer? That doesn't sound likely. What sort of win condition would they have?
With a name like Curfew Enforcer? I dunno, maybe block a quota number of night actions a la Caff's 3p doctor role in TBD?
Though it's a good chance that my role becomes useless or even counterproductive.
wouldn't be far from the status quo- you're not even sure it's notty that'll set you off, or if that message carries any meaning.
You keep basing your claims off of the fact I'm Third Party... But, I guarantee you, I'm absolutely Town-Sided.
not really, you sound third party to me but that's irrelevant to my arguments
 

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I could say the same about my irrational fear of clocks, but I assume it has to do with the Clockmaker that has died. x)

... But, that's just an assumption, so it's very much possible that clocks may be the cause of my death. :c
could it be the clockmaster needed to kill you for a win condition, which obv can't happen anymore?
 

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Nonono this mechanic has as far as I know nothing to do with my partner. I mean for all I know the "someone" that has to die in order for something to happen to my is my partner, then yes it would be my partner. But if not then it has nothing to do with my partner x)
waitwaitwait

hold up

Didn't you imply you would gain a power if "someone" died?

And didn't tim imply he would lose a power if "someone" died?

I think both of your roles are related in the sense that if someone that isn't either of you dies, notty gains the power that tim loses.

Nottykitten Timdood3 Any objections to this theory?
 

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literally everyone going for the jolt bandwagon is parroting the same line, and this is just a hypothetical
... We were? o. o

Wouldn't you want to stay alive, as a townie, to help the town win?
Wouldn't anyone want to stay alive?

But, keep in mind the Jailer's other powers.

With a name like Curfew Enforcer? I dunno, maybe block a quota number of night actions a la Caff's 3p doctor role in TBD?
Very imaginative, but once again, not a Third Party.

not really, you sound third party to me but that's irrelevant to my arguments
How and why, may I ask? xD

could it be the clockmaster needed to kill you for a win condition, which obv can't happen anymore?
Very much what I was thinking, but it's also possible that others may have clocks out there, somewhere, in this... Russian town.
 

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This feels... rushed. Almost forced, claiming before it was necessary. I did pressure you to confirm what you did last night, but NOT what your whole role was. If you are a jailer, it would have been much smarter to just mention that you had simply roleblocked Notty. The protecting part felt tacked on out of nowhere, just to make you seem more town-like.
Alright so I should've lied, gotcha.

No really, if I said I was just role-blocking him and somebody would've asked if that was all and I would've been forced to lie or come out as my true role anyway, I don't think I would've just been led to everyone believing me right there. Or alternatively people would've see it as an easy cop-out for being a hooker which is... exactly no different to what's going on right now.
Someone mentioned this seemed hashed together from previous names? Might be right, might not be. (would make sense with a rushed roleclaim, but this feels more trivial to me).
One person mentioned it seemed tacked on from a previous name which was Vatumok's "Ivan" and the other said my name seemed like I was a hooker. So... you're telling me I made up a name then intentionally made it female for some reason??? If I really had to make up a name why in the hell would I have made it female. This is my true name, I feel no need to hide it.

Also once again, nobody is replying to my posts at all. Example the one I just made.

Wait, most roles you've seen? As far as I know the only roles you've seen is your own and the N1 deaths. Unless you're talking about your mafia buddies of course.
 

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And jolt I don't want to speak for everyone here but I think the general idea is that you used your real name (because why would you change it) but changed your role to seem town. And since your name is female I think people think you could be a hooker moreso than a jailer since I guess jailer has male stereotypes attached to it and hookers are female (and you being a hooker seems to fit well with the theory of what you did to notty). Again, I don't want to speak for everyone but that's the impression I'm getting, so I think Duffie pretty much spoke most people's mind which is probably why nobody else has answered.
 

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And jolt I don't want to speak for everyone here but I think the general idea is that you used your real name (because why would you change it) but changed your role to seem town. And since your name is female I think people think you could be a hooker moreso than a jailer since I guess jailer has male stereotypes attached to it and hookers are female (and you being a hooker seems to fit well with the theory of what you did to notty). Again, I don't want to speak for everyone but that's the impression I'm getting, so I think Duffie pretty much spoke most people's mind which is probably why nobody else has answered.
I am aware of this, I was replying to Samlen who thought that I made up my name from Vatumok's.

Nobody replied to my post I quoted.
 

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ok since this hasnt been done
make just ONE big post about why notty is scummy and should be lynched
sure, why not. just don't expect me to have 200 quotes

notty is scummy because
  • Claims to be in an inn with 1 other player of unknown alignment. Later claims to know alignment of partner
  • Contradicts past information
  • Claims not to contradict past information. Blames technicalities
  • Claims not to have power role. Later accuses Jolt of roleblocking, is correct, implying power
  • Deflects lynch to Jolt
  • Original reason for voting Jolt was WIFOM iirc, later information revealed him as blocking notty
  • Makes up excuses when contradictions are pointed out
  • Is a bad influence on the town
  • Is literally the only one to claim being in an inn
  • Was softclaiming templar until I pressed the issue. The first part of the day she sets up for a templar claim
  • Broke under pressure, revealed information about role literally one page after saying she wouldn't. Only had one vote on her at the time
  • Is chaotic and confusing
  • Deliberately phrases responses ambiguously so she can make excuses if pressed
  • Dismisses arguments for her lynch as "irrational" (i have a quote for this one, and she says this elsewhere too)
Really? It felt like almost everyone was against me for some reason(still feels like it as I still have yet to find a rational argument for lynching me, and I bet I'll get lynched for being too "scummy" and too "defensive" because ive just been answering questions and defending myself from false accusations).
and I probably missed a few things but this is a big list. This doesn't even include risks we avoid by lynching her or benefits gained.

I could also do "Why Jolt Lynch is Bad" and "What we'd learn from notty's lynch"
 

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Claims to be in an inn with 1 other player of unknown alignment. Later claims to know alignment of partner
i cant really remember this bit
Contradicts past information
people misinterpret past information or a white lie is told to try and keep information that a scum party would need to know safe
Claims not to contradict past information. Blames technicalities
^
Claims not to have power role. Later accuses Jolt of roleblocking, is correct, implying power
partner has power, notty can use it
Deflects lynch to Jolt
well really what are you going to do as someone being lynched
everyone wants to survive and tbh jolt is scummier (in my eyes atleast)
also 'deflects' i think other people were first to jump over that
Original reason for voting Jolt was WIFOM iirc, later information revealed him as blocking notty
once again i can't really remember any of these things either
Makes up excuses when contradictions are pointed out
'makes up'
Is a bad influence on the town
in your opinion
Is literally the only one to claim being in an inn
i believe 'inn' is just a placeholder for a chat with the partner
Was softclaiming templar until I pressed the issue. The first part of the day she sets up for a templar claim
didn't softclaim, i don't believe anyone is insane enough to try and claim templar when the other templar is out there and it comes down to a massive counterclaim (wow where are we but jolt didn't know a jailer-esque role already existed)
Broke under pressure, revealed information about role literally one page after saying she wouldn't. Only had one vote on her at the time
vote =/= people questioning at time
the majority of info came from when there were a ton of votes
Is chaotic and confusing
in your opinion
Deliberately phrases responses ambiguously so she can make excuses if pressed
pretty sure they made a clear post explaining their role so nothing was ambiguous
Dismisses arguments for her lynch as "irrational"
pretty sure notty has answered to a ton of arguments but they keep being repeated


why has nobody called me suspicious from being anti-notty then pro-notty btw
y'all got ur heads too wrapped up in this business
 

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we need a votecount badly, any volunteers?

also this day is literally tbd-tier in length. can we just vote either jolt or notty and be done with it

honestly i was hoping someone would fakeclaim templar so we would have a clear antitown to lynch
Honestly do we even lynch either of them, I mean so far we don't have that much damning evidence against either of them, so maybe we should wait and see what happens night 2? idk?
 
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