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@ooglie if you are in fact town and can choose not to use your power then maybe don't use it ever again
and, at the same time, claiming you don't actually censor anything
literally cat is saying her reports are censored
there is zero way your claimed action could ever benefit town in any way whatsoever
do you not get that you're claiming censor
and, at the same time, claiming you don't actually censor anything
literally cat is saying her reports are censored
there is zero way your claimed action could ever benefit town in any way whatsoever
also
cat claimed to watch ender n1
ender died n1
we would have had a confirmed killer if you didn't sabotage cat's watcher report
there is literally no reason to keep you alive.
if you are town, you are a liability
if you are mafia, you are scum and ruining investigative reports
if you are third party then who cares you're still hurting the town
i actually believe your claim of "censorer" to the point of it being your role
you are literally censoring the reports of the power roles. whether or not you choose which portions to censor is irrelevant to this fact
catgirl12466 since you've been targeted by him twice now and experienced his effects on your role, would you consider his action a benefit to the town?
cat claimed to watch ender n1
ender died n1
we would have had a confirmed killer if you didn't sabotage cat's watcher report
there is literally no reason to keep you alive.
if you are town, you are a liability
if you are mafia, you are scum and ruining investigative reports
if you are third party then who cares you're still hurting the town
i actually believe your claim of "censorer" to the point of it being your role
you are literally censoring the reports of the power roles. whether or not you choose which portions to censor is irrelevant to this fact
catgirl12466 since you've been targeted by him twice now and experienced his effects on your role, would you consider his action a benefit to the town?
well Nottykitten i think maybe you might be completely wrong on that point
yeah you didn't even know what cat did n1 or n2. you admitted you thought she was a regular cop at first, but the action seemed to change.
you did not know she was a watcher.
well you did censor a specific word according to both you and cat
you're just claiming not to have chosen that specific word to censor
ooglie you seem to flip back and forth on whether you were aware that your action sabotages the message itself. clearly it does, that's why your role name is "Censorer". Because it censors the system messages received by your chosen target.
if you were merely "wiretapping" (which sounds scummy in itself) then you wouldn't have modified the target's reports by removing vital information.
You. Are. Not. Town.
You are a scum role who has foolishly decided to claim their actual power as if it was townsided.
Hunter what you're saying makes a lot of sense.
Originally, I thought the point of Ooglie's role was to intercept mafia reports, but what's the purpose of having a journalist if he blocks our own town power roles?
I know you can argue that a lot of roles aren't in the benefit of the town, but I think censoring messages is more detrimental to the town than it could ever be to the mafia, so I don't understand why that role would even exist.
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Originally, I thought the point of Ooglie's role was to intercept mafia reports, but what's the purpose of having a journalist if he blocks our own town power roles?
I know you can argue that a lot of roles aren't in the benefit of the town, but I think censoring messages is more detrimental to the town than it could ever be to the mafia, so I don't understand why that role would even exist.
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Let's not, and say we did.
Like, literally, let's not and say we did. I'll roleblock you, even though we all agree you're a vanilla Templar, but also protect you at the same time.
But in actuality, I'll roleblock someone else so I can actually make use of my roleblock to find out who has a killing role.
But now this plan won't work, because everyone knows my plan. Shoot, I wonder why this didn't work.
beating a dead horse at this point but your action is literally "censor" as you have said multiple times and again just nowso duffie is fine roleblocking you since you're just a vanilla townie at this point
but then i'm not allowed to censor you since you're just a vanilla townie at this point
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yet you claim not to censor the reports of your targets
I, in case you haven't noticed, am functionally a vanilla townie.
Duffie claims to be able to protect and also roleblock her targets.
I am the uncontested by all, reported inno by tim, powerless templar who was in the night chat with Noah.
Therefore, unless Duffie has someone scummy in mind to roleblock, she should protect me as I am literally the only truly "confirmed" townie in any sense of the word. I have no town power to block.
But if there is a strong suspicion or other reason to roleblock someone, Duffie could roleblock them instead.
By that logic, you confirmed Caff as killer. But she could just as well be a victim, or the only night kill attempted last night phase could have been the successful one on Samlen.
Curfewing someone and there being less kills than yesterday doesn't help us find out who has a killing role.
There's also 77, who claims to be a protector-type, and myu, who claims surgeon.
And then there's Vatu who was a 3p-sk and oh look there's apparently two mafia factions.
Even if you did curfew a mafia, there's no way to tell whether they were the one to actually perform a kill that night.
Hell, if you'd curfew'd samlen, he'd still be alive today. With two mafia factions, one can target the other.
There's also 77, who claims to be a protector-type, and myu, who claims surgeon.
And then there's Vatu who was a 3p-sk and oh look there's apparently two mafia factions.
Even if you did curfew a mafia, there's no way to tell whether they were the one to actually perform a kill that night.
Hell, if you'd curfew'd samlen, he'd still be alive today. With two mafia factions, one can target the other.
I know, but whether or not you choose which parts of messages get redacted/censored, you still end up sabotaging/redacting/censoring the reports
The way I see it, you're the least of Mafias' concerns.
You're not a PR and you confuse absolutely everyone. (No offense, if given.)
There's plenty of ways to see this through. For me, I see a couple of liars amidst the sea of protective roles... I'm just not certain who, exactly.
I'm not certain how to go about playing, but I'm also totally distracted by multiple things of interest. My suspicions are still on the Myuser/77thShad situation, but I suppose it's possible Ooglie's evil.
... But honestly, I don't think Ooglie would out himself so easily, if he were mafia. That sounds absolutely silly.
Reason I'd suggested it is because Duffie seemed to want to try and protect people rather than go for roleblocking mafia.
That's also a valid strategy but protecting me isn't fucking useless.
If you have someone in mind worth roleblocking, then go for it. But you better hope they're maf, cause if not, you likely blocked a town PR from receiving their report or otherwise performing an action.
It shouldn't be that hard to understand that risk doesn't come with protecting me.
Also what do you mean I'm "confusing". You made your own little chart of stuff, yet call me out for trying to get information whenever I question players. I even made a full-blown table from an excel spreadsheet listing all claimed information in the game so it'd be easier to look for conflicting information.
That's also a valid strategy but protecting me isn't fucking useless.
If you have someone in mind worth roleblocking, then go for it. But you better hope they're maf, cause if not, you likely blocked a town PR from receiving their report or otherwise performing an action.
It shouldn't be that hard to understand that risk doesn't come with protecting me.
I'd like to hope I'm the least of their concerns but they're gonna have to kill me eventually, especially when I'm the only(?) clear here.
Also what do you mean I'm "confusing". You made your own little chart of stuff, yet call me out for trying to get information whenever I question players. I even made a full-blown table from an excel spreadsheet listing all claimed information in the game so it'd be easier to look for conflicting information.
Seeing as catgirl12466 seems to be here enough (actively lurking) to rate posts she should be able to actually post her own opinion on the ooglie thing as well as whatever else seems relevant.
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Agreed. I think we can all safely agree that there can only be a maximum of two protection roles in this game, and that three protection roles is really a stretch. However, strategy wise today is not the day to decide who is lying. from the towns perspective: if there are two power roles in these 3 (and i know i'm town) then there is only a 30% chance of the town correctly lynching a mafia. However, it's unlikely the mafia want to keep 2 known protection roles alive for the duration of the game (especially if there's a second mafia team which doesn't have a mafia member in these three). the sad fact is that as the game goes on we're only more likely to die during the night, but that means the town doesn't waste a lynch killing us, and the towns odds of figuring out who is lying rise dramatically. It's literally one of those time when you want to wait this out at least a day or two.
Your chart is helpful, absolutely, just like mine. Charts are amazingly helpful.
Everything else you do, from questioning to accusing... Is quite confusing.
I'm terrible at explaining things, but to summarize why I think you're confusing... You tend to believe specific things are the only possibility, and stick to it to the end. You refuse to give up, and constantly push whatever it is you first thought to be true.
That's what anyone would do, but along with you speech, you constant posting, your failure to comprehend some things and interpret it as you would... It can boggle some people's minds at times, including my own.