let's not explode [day 5 - GAME OVER (MAFIA WIN)]

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Tbh inf has been acting somewhat distant from us just staying out of it saying idk what to vote, I don't know. But then as soon as the vote changed to hunter, he did bandwagon.

My vote stays on Ltin, because if Inf is scum, it would imply Ltin is as well.
Well um I was against voting ltin from the start so of course I'd vote for the guy I've been suspicious of the whole game over them when something they do pretty much confirms them as anti-town in my eyes. If ltin does turn out to be mafia it doesn't necessarily mean I am too, he has just seemed Town to me the whole game and since he's now uncc'd it doesn't make sense to lynch him, that's how I see it at least.
 

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This definitely hard to decide between. We know that Ltin was trying to be town but right now it seems like Hunter is the more suspicious one because right now in these couple of pages, he has been heck of a lot more suspicious. So far, I ignored the fact that Hunter was saying that we should tell Mayor to claim because it's a target which Mafia would ignore; HOWEVER honestly this seems very backwards looking because its reducing the pool of suspects to hit for the Mafia and therefore seems very counter-productive by claiming the Mayor should claim.

Secondly the fact that no one has CC'd the pr role, seems almost illogical to lynch him because we got what, 5 hours left. It's a big risk to leave it for 5 hours instead of analysing the fact that Ltin has the highest vote count currently. Hunter's logic seems to be very counter-productive to the Town and therefore is a bit more suspicious than Ltin. And even though I am switching between votes because I'm undecided on who is the most suspicious person, this seems to big of a risk to ignore. Lyncing Ltin may be fine and dandy but when he has claimed that he is drunk, and no one else has said "Im the drunk. wtf are you saying m8" seems to me that Hunter is a better option to lynch than Ltin. As Notty rightly said:

Because voting for you makes more sense than voting for an unCC'd town power role?
and also:
The person with most votes will get lynched, and I'd rather have a suspicious person lynch, than one on the unCC'd drunk.
So far, I have found Ltin to be quite suspicious, but honestly it seemed to me that I was jumping the gun too early. I have a sneaking suspicion on Hunter because he may have thought that the deal was sealed with Ltin and started to say another suspicious comment, and this could be me being paranoid and over-thinking it a tad but again it seems that Hunter currently is more suspicious than Ltin. Some may think I am bandwagon but honestly I have found Hunter to be a tiny bit more suspicious and also the multiple things he has said which is damaging to the town and also trying to act innocent like Ltin. Ltin may have tried to look like a townie, but Hunter has a combination of both controversial topics and also the same try at trying to be Town. And while I was typing this out, Infected said something which I agree with:

Well um I was against voting ltin from the start so of course I'd vote for the guy I've been suspicious of the whole game over them when something they do pretty much confirms them as anti-town in my eyes. If ltin does turn out to be mafia it doesn't necessarily mean I am too, he has just seemed Town to me the whole game and since he's now uncc'd it doesn't make sense to lynch him, that's how I see it at least.
The fact that Ltin has uncc'd seems to me as Infected says, not make a lot of sense to lynch because of this. Therefore:

#unvote
#vote Hunter
 

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Well um I was against voting ltin from the start so of course I'd vote for the guy I've been suspicious of the whole game over them when something they do pretty much confirms them as anti-town in my eyes. If ltin does turn out to be mafia it doesn't necessarily mean I am too, he has just seemed Town to me the whole game and since he's now uncc'd it doesn't make sense to lynch him, that's how I see it at least.
lmfao, ur reasoning for not voting Ltin was because you don't want to vote on suspicion and on small things, but now you're saying you're voting for some1 completely on suspicion with no damning evidence, similarly the way you worded this seems so rushed, as if trying to divert my eyes as fast as possible before I can make a better judgement on you =/

#Lynch. All. Inf's.
 

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lmfao, ur reasoning for not voting Ltin was because you don't want to vote on suspicion and on small things, but now you're saying you're voting for some1 completely on suspicion with no damning evidence, similarly the way you worded this seems so rushed, as if trying to divert my eyes as fast as possible before I can make a better judgement on you =/

#Lynch. All. Inf's.
what

My reasoning for not voting Ltin was because the reasoning for voting him was ridiculous in my opinion and I failed to see how he was acting "too town" by trying to stop meme posts. Only when people started saying he was acting "too town" did he say stuff like the "EXTREME importance" of not killing civilians, and its understandable that he'd be trying to appear Town at that point because he's under suspicion.

I'm voting hunter because like I said, I've been suspicious of him for a while and he literally said he'd rather kill a Town PR than nobody, which is not Townie from where I see it.

As for the last bit I have no idea what you just said hahah
 

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tbh drunk does more harm than good tho
just accumulates visits + blocks town prs
tbh day ends in a couple hours so not much point to unvoting
Hunter pretty much said it too, if not as literal as you did.

ok well riddle me this
who do you think i'm teamed with, if you think i'm maf
I have no idea but I do think you're anti-town, or at least not acting Town in the slightest, and I'd rather vote you than an uncc'd PR, who I believe is innocent, rather than you who I believe is not. I apologise if I'm wrong here but if I have a choice of two people to lynch, a Town PR and an unknown but probably mafia role, I'm choosing the second one.
 

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what

My reasoning for not voting Ltin was because the reasoning for voting him was ridiculous in my opinion and I failed to see how he was acting "too town" by trying to stop meme posts. Only when people started saying he was acting "too town" did he say stuff like the "EXTREME importance" of not killing civilians, and its understandable that he'd be trying to appear Town at that point because he's under suspicion.

I'm voting hunter because like I said, I've been suspicious of him for a while and he literally said he'd rather kill a Town PR than nobody, which is not Townie from where I see it.

As for the last bit I have no idea what you just said hahah
VAGUELY DEFENDING LTIN
Okay fair enough, and after reading the page I missed and seeing Aqua's post about Ltin's posts I can kind of see where the suspicion is coming from because he has made some pretty confusing posts it seems, but I disagree that his main objective is to appear Townie. He's been contradicting himself and throwing suspicion on people since the beginning. If his main objective at the front of his mind is to appear Townie and rid of any suspicion he sure isn't doing a good job, and in my opinion I don't think he is doing that. I mean I could be completely wrong about this but I just don't see the whole "Ltin is trying to be too townie" when he voted Aqua for meming and said we should lynch Aqua based on pretty much no evidence. If he was Mafia he wouldn't do any of those things surely, because he's putting suspicion on people. But please point something out if I'm still missing something.
VAGUELY DEFENDING LTIN
And regarding his kind of suspicious posts before that, to me it just looks like a confused player, not some Mafia trying to play sneaky tricks. But what do I know I guess \o/
VAGUELY DEFENDING LTIN
Honestly I personally think Ltin's apparently forcefulness of appearing Townie is literally because he is one and was being put under suspicion so to remedy it he tried to appear Townie so he wasn't lynched. That being said it doesn't look like anything else is going to happen, and of course I could be completely wrong and Ltin could be evil.

I won't vote just yet because I'd like to hear what Kallie and Mul have to say before the day ends and I'm worried we'll vote ltin off before that happens \o/
REALISING HE CAN'T CHANGE ANYBODIES MINDS VOTES LTIN TO SEEM MORE INNOCENT.
Had a re-read and actually yeah you're right, some people pointed out he was seeming too Townie before his "suspicious" confused theory post/before he was seen as suspicious, so never mind sorry. Though I still struggle to see what exactly people mean when they say he's being too townie since in my eyes he was just trying to move the game forward and the only time I thought he could possibly be seen as trying a bit too hard to seem Town was after people started pointing suspicion toward him, with posts like:


Idk, maybe I'm just being dumb or trusting my gut way too much but I still think we're making a mistake lynching him, but I guess there's nobody else who is suspicious enough to lynch instead so \o/

Anyways, Mul and Kallie have both viewed the thread today so I'm guessing they just don't have any comments, so:

#vote ltin
AS SOON AS OPPORTUNITY ARRIVES, BANDWAGONS HUNTER

#unvote

I agree with notty, I don't see the logic in "I'd rather vote a town pr than nobody at all". :confused:

As for hunter, I must admit I have had a kind of silent suspicion on him for a while. For one, I personally doubt the whole "mayor should claim" thing was literally just to see ltin's reaction, I kind of feel like he tried to get a claim out and then when people pointed out that it could be detrimental to Town he suddenly revealed it was all a "ruse" (but maybe I'm just being dumb, that was just the initial thought that came to my mind when he did it). Also my gut just says something's off with him. Annnd now this whole "lynch the drunk because he could ruin things for Town" when ltin pointed out he didn't even use his role so, as oog said, he can control it.

So yeah I have to agree I am very suspicious of hunter at the moment too, and if we're lynching anyone today I think it should be him. So unless something changes my mind:

#vote hunter
No where once did you say anything against or about hunter, you clearly were defending Ltin as when I look back you were repeating this sort of "Hi I'm a newb who's kinda confused mind pointing these things ou to me? cus I don't think ltin is bad" over and over every other message and then when nobody took any notice, you just voted Ltin. Then suddenly oog makes a strong point against hunter, which I do agree does make him look quite scummy, and you instantly bandwagon him. Whether or not Ltin is scum you clearly have some sort of alterior motive for defending him, so you may even be the unkown 3rd party role.

The last part of my previous post was identifying the fact that you clearly over reacted to my single point isntead off giving it a straight forward answer. This just seems way too suspicious to me, as if you don't even have a poker face at all.

Finally, this gave me cancer.
 

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Aqua yes you're right, I did jump to vote hunter when oog made a point against him because I agreed with the point and saw it as confirmation that hunter was acting anti-town and I wasn't just misunderstanding something.

I defended ltin because to me he seems innocent, I don't know how else I can say it. The "vague" defence was probably because I don't know for sure he is innocent, so defending him as if I know for sure he's a civilian or something wouldn't make sense. I voted ltin in the end because, as I even say in the post, it didn't look like anything else was going to happen and he could have been Mafia (up until he claimed and was uncc of course).

I didn't say anything about hunter being suspicious because it was flimsy and I didn't know for sure, it was more of a gut feeling than anything, but then when I saw his post about killing an uncc'd PR I voted him.

Honestly I don't know what else I can say other than "I am defending someone I think is innocent and lynching someone I think is Mafia". If hunter turns out innocent it does not mean I am mafia, nor if ltin turns out to be innocent does it mean I'm mafia. You can analyse my posts all you like but that's all I'm doing.
 

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Aqua yes you're right, I did jump to vote hunter when oog made a point against him because I agreed with the point and saw it as confirmation that hunter was acting anti-town and I wasn't just misunderstanding something.

I defended ltin because to me he seems innocent, I don't know how else I can say it. The "vague" defence was probably because I don't know for sure he is innocent, so defending him as if I know for sure he's a civilian or something wouldn't make sense. I voted ltin in the end because, as I even say in the post, it didn't look like anything else was going to happen and he could have been Mafia (up until he claimed and was uncc of course).

I didn't say anything about hunter being suspicious because it was flimsy and I didn't know for sure, it was more of a gut feeling than anything, but then when I saw his post about killing an uncc'd PR I voted him.

Honestly I don't know what else I can say other than "I am defending someone I think is innocent and lynching someone I think is Mafia". If hunter turns out innocent it does not mean I am mafia, nor if ltin turns out to be innocent does it mean I'm mafia. You can analyse my posts all you like but that's all I'm doing.
If you didn't understand our arguments or didn't know and had no other leads why defend him?
And why aren't you questioning the argument against hunter and just bandwagoning with no statement other than "I've always found him suspicious"?

Oh, I know why because ur mafia scum AND. YOUR. JIMMIES. ARE. RUSTLED.
 

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If anything, Inf changing his vote from Ltin to Hunter makes him seem more town to me. Like he has the best interrest for the town in mind. That doesn't mean I believe he is town (or Mafia), he is still in the grey area of idk what you are.

The only townread I have had so far this game is Ender. And besides some very weak suspicions on some people, Hunter is the only one that stands out from the rest at the moment for me.
 

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If you didn't understand our arguments or didn't know and had no other leads why defend him?
And why aren't you questioning the argument against hunter and just bandwagoning with no statement other than "I've always found him suspicious"?

Oh, I know why because ur mafia scum AND. YOUR. JIMMIES. ARE. RUSTLED.
I did understand your arguments, I didn't agree with them, which exactly what you just quoted me saying a moment ago.
I'm not questioning the argument against hunter because I AM against hunter omg. Hunter would rather lynch a Town PR than cancel the lynch. How is that not Mafia?

YES MY JIMMIES ARE RUSTLED BECAUSE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 

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can you explain why an inf vote is > than ltin, just out of curiosity, cus the only reason I can think is Inf could be 3rd party that needs the drunk alive.
you said inf was def maf lmao why you questionin'
plus inf could be maf defending ltin because:
1. ltin is another maf actually?
2. ltin isn't actually maf and inf, being one himself, knew this, and defended him so he can be all "hey look i defended a townie!!!" later
 
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