REVIVAL OF MAFIA: Dire Streets {(OVER: FENCE WIN + town)}

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Notty, you're being very self centered here. You need to think why people are against you, including the protester...whoever that is, then find out why people are teaming with friendy.

The Fence does what they want and you shouldn't take it to heart as this is just a game. You have to place yourself in someone else's perspective and see why they want you dead.

I'm agreeing with vat, way to flip the tables, because he has things in order, I'd agree with you if you could produce more evidence because right now you are just blabbing on about yourself. Me Me Me.

There is a reason that I am siding with Vat/Friendy and that is because they look at other perspectives, they look at the picture as a whole and you are simply moaning on about why people shouldn't kill you and why vat should be killed, you aren't doing anything good for yourself.

The Fence are not cyberbullying you, if they were doing that then it would effect your real life. They'd threaten to come to your door and hurt you but they are roleplaying so that is acceptable. This is all part of the mafia game and you just need to realise that they aren't intending to hurt you personally. I know this is my first game but you are acting like me right now and you will regret it sooner or later, so hush up and listen to the adults for now child because they've got it right.
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Notty is defending herself in a game where when you are about to die you defend yourself. Notty realizes this is a game and obviously isn't serious about being cyberbullied unlike you seemingly earlier on, don't talk down to her to make yourself feel any better because she was nothing but polite and helpful to you until you kept on going at her.

Also I'm pretty sure I know exactly what is going on here and it involves possibly outing the protestor so if you guys think that's worth it then just say so and I'll give you all my theory (but sorry in advance if it turns out it doesn't actually make any sense lol)
 

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Sigh we were having a good discussion this salt is ruining and derailing it. I'd just like to direct people to this math/logic incase they didn't see it because of the useless posts. I find this a good enough reasoning to not keep the Fence alive, two mislynches and we're doomed.

It removes the vote of a person who isn't with the Town, and also removes the ability of the Mafia to have two kills at their disposal.

Consider we mislynch today(for example lynching me!!!) and during the night the Mafia kills another innocent. There would be 17 people left tomorrow. If we mislynch again, the following day there'd be 15 people left. At this point you can decide to join the Mafia and easely win. How do 5 Mafia + you win against 9 other people? Simple. You give out a gun to a Mafia member during the day. Boom headshot 14 people left of which 5 are Mafia. The town lynches the shooter and during the night another innocent person dies. The following day there are 12 people left of which 4 are Mafia. *repeat* 9 people left next day of which 3 are Mafia. BOOM HEADSHOT. Wow would you look at that 8 people left, 3 are Mafia and 1 is you. The town can not reach majority anymore and thus lose the game and you joint-win with the Mafia. And all it takes is 2 mislynches to get to that point because you're in play.

This isn't even accounting for the SK's kills. Which can go either way. Either they kill a Town tonight and we're only worse off, or they kill a Mafia and the town vastly improves. But are we really going to let this game come down to the Serial Killer? You might say 2 mislynches is enough for any town to lose. But it's really not especially because the Doctor did an amazing job and saved one life last night which gave us even more time.
 

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earlier on, don't talk down to her to make yourself feel any better because she was nothing but polite and helpful to you until you kept on going at her.
Hello! This is the internet speaking, I can say what the hell I want, don't lecture me mate.
 

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Friendy would be playing against his win condition by so aggresively trying to lynch you. It's a survivor rank which is not directly threatening to town. Right now it looks to me like you are saving face, it's all about you not dying, which confirms to me that you are mafia. If you are town do not worry, Friendy is not considered 100% good.
 

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Well this is fun, isn't it? I'll admit that getting rid of notty is tempting just because of all the confusing situations that come up around em.... but unless Notty definetely is the sk/mafia, the Fence is potentially much more dangerous. There are MANY times where we lynch a survivor JUST because they had one additional vote that could be used to the mafia's advantage, yet the Fence is a survivor that can hand out guns, guns that can (and probably will) be used to kill town members. I'm not sure of what Notty may be, but I can logically deduce that the Fence can be EXTREMELY dangerous, and I would rather avoid to give him the chance to turn against us.

Vote Friendy
 

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Friendy would be playing against his win condition by so aggresively trying to lynch you. It's a survivor rank which is not directly threatening to town. Right now it looks to me like you are saving face, it's all about you not dying, which confirms to me that you are mafia. If you are town do not worry, Friendy is not considered 100% good.
No role wants to die. Unless you're a fool. If you believe I'm Mafia for not wanting to die then I can't really do anything to convince you because I just simply don't want to die. I love Mafia why would I not fight my hardest to stay alive even if I dont have a power role.

He's not a simple survivor he can give the Mafia two kills. That's a very big difference than being just a survivor.
 

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Well this is fun, isn't it? I'll admit that getting rid of notty is tempting just because of all the confusing situations that come up around em.... but unless Notty definetely is the sk/mafia, the Fence is potentially much more dangerous. There are MANY times where we lynch a survivor JUST because they had one additional vote that could be used to the mafia's advantage, yet the Fence is a survivor that can hand out guns, guns that can (and probably will) be used to kill town members. I'm not sure of what Notty may be, but I can logically deduce that the Fence can be EXTREMELY dangerous, and I would rather avoid to give him the chance to turn against us.

Vote Friendy
So you'd rather take the hard path than take a risk and side with the fence? You're shooting yourself in the foot if I get lynched.
 

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Well this is fun, isn't it? I'll admit that getting rid of notty is tempting just because of all the confusing situations that come up around em...
I'm sorry I really didn't think this was going to happen again this game as I'm a simple civilian. But it appears situations like this just happen to find me.
 

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So you'd rather take the hard path than take a risk and side with the fence? You're shooting yourself in the foot if I get lynched.
We're shooting ourselves in the head if we don't lynch you. I'm not going to bet my money on the off chance we need the foot, since the foot is infected and is going to be the end of us if we keep it there. Good methaphor? I think so!
 

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Fence can be dangerous if uncontrolled by the role is not a direct threat to town, it can be used against the mafia too. His win condition is purely to survive, not to kill someone. There is no reason for him to put himself in risk of getting lynched for getting a townie kill being Notty.
 

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So you'd rather take the hard path than take a risk and side with the fence? You're shooting yourself in the foot if I get lynched.
I've had many games of mafia that resulted in a loss because of survivors and their choices.I would much rather take the safe route and lynch a guaranteed non-town member that could easily turn against us than potentially lynch a town member.
 
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