Zambie Mafia - Day 4 - Game Over - Town Victory

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If a few people in a row that aren't in inns are scum we assume that your theory is correct. Then it suddenly works out that it isn't.
Yeah true but it's at least a direction, and if we're still getting rid of scum it still benefits us. We'll just end up killing a town at one point if the theory is wrong and stopping, but we could kill a townie at any point anyway.
 

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So. Infected_alien8_, or should I say INFECTED_Alien.

It feels as if you want to lead town, but I really don't think you've actually done many helpful things. You seem overly enthusiastic and thinking that only inns are town-only seems like wishful thinking for me. Especially since I was your biggest suspect before and now I'm suddenly maybe town and probably town because I'm in an inn. "Unless one of them is the second person in Ender's inn of course." This also makes it sound like you will change your mind purely based on the assumption that everyone is town in an inn.

I think a lot of statements you've made are unhelpful and rather confusing than good, for example after the first night immediately saying you were in an inn with 2 dead people at the start. There is really no point in saying that there unless you are playing some mindgame (or there was some important information, but there was not). Your behaviour has seemed off from the start and I'm not really falling for this act, I think you're overdoing it.

To me, the plan that all members in an inn are town seems like a way to stall time while you and your zombie mate are in an inn. It's possible that you chose to infect Ender the first night because he's a very good player and since he said he's in an inn you are now trying to throw suspicion on other people and when we figure that out it's too late. Ltin or other people from Ender's inn are suspicious for this reason. As a town you'd never just come up with such a plan, because if we'd lynch a non-inn member that's mafia or zombie, the zombies will just infect inn members and your plan to continue until it fails means an easy zombie win.

It's possible you came up with this as mafia but it seems much more like zombie behaviour. I'll see if I can find some more arguments.

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Do you have any suspicions?
I wish I could say 'indeed I do' with 100% certainty but right now they're all over the place and based off of what other people said. Basically... I'm the person that wants to bandwagon everything and yet nothing at once, because I'm scared of this and that and thus led to me not lynching anyone the day prior.

[This is where a bit of roleplay would be if I didn't have to put the cats in the cage soon IRL. :c]
 

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I think a lot of statements you've made are unhelpful and rather confusing than good, for example after the first night immediately saying you were in an inn with 2 dead people at the start. There is really no point in saying that there unless you are playing some mindgame (or there was some important information, but there was not). Your behaviour has seemed off from the start and I'm not really falling for this act, I think you're overdoing it.
I feel like there is a lot of stuff in that post that doesn't make sense, but this especially just seems like you are stretching it. Any information helps. There was no important information around notty revealing our Inn exists, but we all agreed on it.
 

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So. Infected_alien8_, or should I say INFECTED_Alien.

It feels as if you want to lead town, but I really don't think you've actually done many helpful things. You seem overly enthusiastic and thinking that only inns are town-only seems like wishful thinking for me. Especially since I was your biggest suspect before and now I'm suddenly maybe town and probably town because I'm in an inn. "Unless one of them is the second person in Ender's inn of course." This also makes it sound like you will change your mind purely based on the assumption that everyone is town in an inn.
Yes, because like I said, it's a direction. If people think this theory is wrong then I did say I'd probably vote on you, but as time's gone on I've become less certain about you being scum, and I think if you were scum you're making it too obvious you are, which makes me think you're not and you're just saying some things that don't make much sense, in my opinion, for a town person to say. Don't get me wrong, I don't fully think you're town, I just think maybe this theory has some value in it, and I'd be prepared to lynch outside of you to test it. Indeed I will change my mind purely based on the assumption that everyone is town in an inn, because that's my theory right now, and I'd like to test it out.

I think a lot of statements you've made are unhelpful and rather confusing than good, for example after the first night immediately saying you were in an inn with 2 dead people at the start. There is really no point in saying that there unless you are playing some mindgame (or there was some important information, but there was not). Your behaviour has seemed off from the start and I'm not really falling for this act, I think you're overdoing it.
I don't understand how me saying this was confusing and unhelpful. It was information, I had no idea what it might mean to someone else in the game, but I said it because I figured there was no harm in saying it and maybe it'd lead us somewhere, and maybe even make me appear innocent (which it obviously hasn't) to others. I don't see why holding this information back would have been better than keeping it to myself.

To me, the plan that all members in an inn are town seems like a way to stall time while you and your zombie mate are in an inn. It's possible that you chose to infect Ender the first night because he's a very good player and since he said he's in an inn you are now trying to throw suspicion on other people and when we figure that out it's too late. Ltin or other people from Ender's inn are suspicious for this reason. As a town you'd never just come up with such a plan, because if we'd lynch a non-inn member that's mafia or zombie, the zombies will just infect inn members and your plan to continue until it fails means an easy zombie win.
Hmm, I didn't really think of that to be honest, but if we do go down the path of killing people who aren't in inns, like I said, maybe we'd be lucky and hit the zombie leader. It's just a direction. There's NO way for us to know who is zombie and who isn't, so we could go with this theory or just hope to luckily hit one elsewhere based on suspicions. Partly why I think the idea that all town are in an inn could be legit since zombies are so OP in my opinion that it seems we have to be given some more help than someone who can track or kill one person each night and a cop who can only investigate one per night, inno someone and then have them become scum the next day. Anyway, I see your point, but we do still have the zombie hunter who could act as a vigilante, killing suspicious people inside inns during the night in the hopes of hitting a zombie. And now you've said this, zombies might purposefully infect people outside of inns anyway. There's no way of finding the zombies, it's all going to be luck based or based on small gut suspicions unless the tracker gets lucky. So we could just go down the path we are now and lynch someone who we find suspicious each day, which is basically just crossing our fingers, or we could test out a theory that reveals mafia/thirdparty to us, which is at least some help, and zombie tracker could do their thing at night and find zombies for us, and hope they don't die. I don't know.

I think basically you're saying I'm scummy because my plan is about finding mafia rather than zombies. Well what's the alternative? This is a direction that is probably not gonna work but could possibly help us find out who the mafia and zombie leader and lone survivor are. It's something at least. It's not like, if we don't go with this plan, we're going to be finding zombies - the bigger threat - instead, because it's highly unlikely we will find any. So the way I see it is, we either just go blindly and try to lynch some non town and zombies (which is super unlikely given the fact there's only like 2 right now), or we, for now, go with this theory and lynch outside of inns which could help us long term.

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Wait I just realized. Dess claiming to be in Ender's inn.. Ender is this true? And is oog the last person in your inn? So Mulberry wasn't in an inn? So the theory is wrong?
 

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I don't want to have to quote, but inf, if we hit the zombie leader we are essentially only hitting a regular zombie with a special name.
Also Zombies infecting people outside of inns isn't very effective for them if your theory is accurate, as mafia die if infected.
 

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I don't want to have to quote, but inf, if we hit the zombie leader we are essentially only hitting a regular zombie with a special name.
Also Zombies infecting people outside of inns isn't very effective for them if your theory is accurate, as mafia die if infected.
Yeah I know, but it means we'd hit a zombie, which we need to do, so it's a direction.

And oh yeah didn't think about that. But if mul wasn't in ender's inn then the whole theory is wrong anyway :(
 

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I don't want to have to quote, but inf, if we hit the zombie leader we are essentially only hitting a regular zombie with a special name.
Also Zombies infecting people outside of inns isn't very effective for them if your theory is accurate, as mafia die if infected.
iirc mafia can't get infected but correct me if I am wrong on that I thought I read it somewhere.

The greater threat here still stands to be the zombies though because even if we manage to lynch a zombie today we still have one more to worry about and going off of the assumption that somebody else was infected last night we now are up against 2.5 zombies (.5 because the other person doesn't know yet). As far as we know any one of us could have been infected already.
 
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