The Red Scare [Game Over]
- Thread starter Ltin
- Start date
VOTECOUNT I was going to make a joke here, but Aqua's joke didn't do what he hoped it did. Inf would still be two votes from lynch.
You confused me Aqua pls.
Votecount hasn't changed.
Infected_alien8 [4] - Foggy, Oak63, Iggish, Aqua
Aqua [1] - Nottykitten
Iggish [1] - HKCaper
Enderfive [1] - Unusual_Dood
With 14 players it takes 8 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.
You confused me Aqua pls.
Votecount hasn't changed.
Infected_alien8 [4] - Foggy, Oak63, Iggish, Aqua
Aqua [1] - Nottykitten
Iggish [1] - HKCaper
Enderfive [1] - Unusual_Dood
With 14 players it takes 8 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
1) what? How is my point playing the dumb noob card? In what way is my point not valid? You came up with a conclusion for why I pushed on hip that would rely on my ability to predict the future, which means that for you to vote me, you assume I'm psychic or extremely lucky, which I find to be very flimsy reasoning. I said it was a great play and that I'm flattered as a joke, but I probably shouldn't admit that because you're voting me for making a joke too, how suspicious of me!!!
And no, when have I ever done this in the past when I was mafia? I've been mafia once before, and I pushed on hunter who was third party, and defended ltin, who was town, and I got lynched for that there and then. So now you're just lying to make points against me. And yes I didn't deny the fact it's a possibility that they're inexperienced but from my pov I know that they're not defending mafia because, oh wow who'd have thought it, I know I'm not mafia, which is why my point makes sense to me
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Someone sounds jealous. But really are we gonna lynch Infected because 3 people who lynched our cop want to? I'm convinced atleast 4(even 5!) mafia were on that lynch on Jivvi and we shouldn't be lynching anyone today that didn't vote for Jivvi.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
policy lynches aren't made because someone is suspicious, they're made purely because of gameplay reasons, for example, if someone is probably a townie, but is making the game nearly unplayable
in jivvi's case it was more than likely he was going to be modkilled anyway, so i wanted to at least get something out of his death, namely, the info we'd be missing out on in the case of a modkill
when you want to lynch someone because you think they're suspicious purely based on their playstyle, different logic applies, because the vote is placed because of a suspicion that the player might be scum
i don't personally think playstyle is enough to deem someone scum with enough certainty to lynch them
i've also pretty much given up on unu, here goes one last try:
Allow me to respond in kind, with quotes of material I've already bloody put forward.
Why I pushed for a Jivvi lynch:
Why I didn't go after the people that had voted Jivvi:
(you being Inf in this quote)
if you're going to respond with that same quote now as well then i swear that if i am mafia, i'm coming for you tonight out of sheer frustration
Mooglie
The Local Cow
uh pretty good tbh
my susp on ender has k i n d a decreased now maybe i was just salty about cop being lynched
aqua is still pretty susp for me but at the same time aqua is an idiot so it might be that
hk is pretty much same level of susp as before
i cant tell whether inf is being stupid due to panic of being lynched as an inno or if he's a trash mafia but usually he's good but yadda yadda voting based on playstyles is bad/meta/whatever
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Okay, fair, I understand.
inb4 unusual is killed to frame ender and then ender is lynched because people use reverse-reverse psychology convulted nonsense theories kappppaaaaaaaa (yes aqua and foggy, this is a joke, it does not mean anything other than I want to be funny because I'm a 10/10 person)
Ok inf, none of my points have any concrete evidence against you, how could they? This game is all about suspicions upon how people react and upon how they act.
1. Initially, I took notice of you due to your insane activity. This paired with a gut feeling was why I wanted you lynched on day one. Did anyone have any other good reasons against anyong else, especially on day one? No, how could they. I wanted a lynch and you appeared to be the most shady for me, hence my vote.
2. Your reaction when you came under fire was incredible. You came under fire not only from me, but from others aswell. Your passive aggressive comments at this time on top of your insane reaction to oak's comments (although I agree, he had very little basis to vote for you) made me think that you were panicking seriously. I guess it can be reasoned that this was because you did not want to be lynched for the second time in a mafia game near the beginning. This would be the reaction I'd expect from a noob and someone starting out at mafia, not a mature experienced player.
You then tried to apologise for your actions, seemingly realising how scummy they made you look.
3. TWG's defence of you is definitely something that should not just be looked over. Why was TWG defending you? He gave no valid arguments and town-read you for apparently no reason at all. He tried to take the heat off you. I believe that TWG is definitely scummy and that he is following you, whether that be because you are a higher mafia role then him or because he respects you for your experience (you might be an ordinary mafia), I don't know. TWG has offered very little to the game and only participates seemingly to defend you. Maybe you appealed to your fellow mafia to help you. The rest are helping you in subtle ways at the moment when TWG went out and tried to defend you bluntly. Again, this defence was bollocks. No quotes, no proof, no nothing.
I am not voting for you because I think you might be an ordinary mafia, otherwise I'd vote for weak. I'm voting you because I believe you are a head mafia. Therefore you should be lynched. I urge everyone else to consider lynching inf aswell. I'm getting extremely potent scum vibes from him and I want to hear everyone else's views on why he should not be lynched. He has been digging himself a hole with his comments, accusations and other mafia standing up for him. Even if inf is not a mafia, which I highly doubt, it will open up a lot of information for the rest of us. It'll tell us who is not mafia by who voted for him and hounded after him (yes, that includes me).
Although I haven't agreed with TWG on a lot, I agree that the mafia are in a very good position at the moment and so risks have to be taken to eliminate them before they can take someone out during the night, leaving even fewer townies.
1. Initially, I took notice of you due to your insane activity. This paired with a gut feeling was why I wanted you lynched on day one. Did anyone have any other good reasons against anyong else, especially on day one? No, how could they. I wanted a lynch and you appeared to be the most shady for me, hence my vote.
2. Your reaction when you came under fire was incredible. You came under fire not only from me, but from others aswell. Your passive aggressive comments at this time on top of your insane reaction to oak's comments (although I agree, he had very little basis to vote for you) made me think that you were panicking seriously. I guess it can be reasoned that this was because you did not want to be lynched for the second time in a mafia game near the beginning. This would be the reaction I'd expect from a noob and someone starting out at mafia, not a mature experienced player.
You then tried to apologise for your actions, seemingly realising how scummy they made you look.
3. TWG's defence of you is definitely something that should not just be looked over. Why was TWG defending you? He gave no valid arguments and town-read you for apparently no reason at all. He tried to take the heat off you. I believe that TWG is definitely scummy and that he is following you, whether that be because you are a higher mafia role then him or because he respects you for your experience (you might be an ordinary mafia), I don't know. TWG has offered very little to the game and only participates seemingly to defend you. Maybe you appealed to your fellow mafia to help you. The rest are helping you in subtle ways at the moment when TWG went out and tried to defend you bluntly. Again, this defence was bollocks. No quotes, no proof, no nothing.
I am not voting for you because I think you might be an ordinary mafia, otherwise I'd vote for weak. I'm voting you because I believe you are a head mafia. Therefore you should be lynched. I urge everyone else to consider lynching inf aswell. I'm getting extremely potent scum vibes from him and I want to hear everyone else's views on why he should not be lynched. He has been digging himself a hole with his comments, accusations and other mafia standing up for him. Even if inf is not a mafia, which I highly doubt, it will open up a lot of information for the rest of us. It'll tell us who is not mafia by who voted for him and hounded after him (yes, that includes me).
Although I haven't agreed with TWG on a lot, I agree that the mafia are in a very good position at the moment and so risks have to be taken to eliminate them before they can take someone out during the night, leaving even fewer townies.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
I mean, you've said yourself that Oak's vote on me made no sense, surely that at least is more concrete than the points you've made against me, which are:
Insane activity is suspicious how exactly? Am I now pushing the game forward? In fact, didn't you even literally say that to justify voting for jivvi?
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I've already explained my aggressive reaction and yes, apologised for them. If you want to read into that then I can't stop you obviously but yeah.
If you're so sure TWG is mafia then consider the possibility that I'm innocent and he's defending me so that he looks innocent when I die. There is no 'higher mafia', there are 5 mafia vanilla roles, and if I was mafia, considering there are only 5 people I'd consider 'not experienced' playing this game, it'd be unlikely that I'm the only experienced one there, and therefore unlikely that all the mafia members would run to protect me so obviously.
Again, there are only 'ordinary mafia'.
Lynching me just because it provides information seems kinda scummy, since lynching anyone will provide information. If we started a bandwagon on notty we'd see everyone;s reaction to it, and therefore we'd get just as much information out of it as lynching me, so if the reason you're lynching me is for getting information, then I have to ask, considering your other points still don't make much sense to me, why me?
Yes, the mafia are in a very good position, but I disagree that this means we have to take risks to eliminate them, we can eliminate them simply by looking who's the most scummy (and it isn't me pls)
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
still salty over the fact that if samlen or whoever was hosting hadn't mucked up that second conversion we'd have been the winners
oh well, at least i had fun with my gambit
In all fairness, I think we are just going round in circles at the moment unable to decide who to lynch. Although the two main targets seem to be Inffy and TWG. I think the only way we are going to get more information is to end the day because at least then we will have something to work off rather than speculation and If we do lynch either of them and they end up to be Mafia we will be in a better position.