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Reading back through my arguments against Inf I do see how a lot of them don't really make sense, but I believe that is due to the fact that I as so sure that Inf is mafia that I was clawing at any possible reason but couldn't back it up with solid evidence it's just a really strong feeling!

Also am I the only person who Town Reads TWG? Like honestly I think he is just a noob at the game and I don't understand why Ender categorises iggish, HK and I in a 'noob group' but doesn't include TWG who is playing his first game.
 

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Okay this entire game I have been called out (or just mentioned) on basis of the way I play the game (sometimes compared to last game), and everytime someone does this, they say it is odd/ different or whatever. I am asking, because this is slowly starting to bug me, especially after somethings Ender said (however, this was about Foggy, Iggy and me, so not specifically me).

It's very hard to find anything incriminating between TWG, Unu, Notty and Inf, since they've all done a great job at deflecting suspicions and generally making themselves look sane, as opposed to Iggish, Foggy and HK (no offence).
I know you said this as start for your story about TWG, Unu, Notty and Inf, but I do not agree fully agree with this sentence (this sentence above all others in your post). Let me start by saying that I find that TWG and Inf, in my opinion, have done enough things that made me suspicious of them. I have said stated my motives clearly before. Next, personally I feel like I always explained my motives, or answered questions when some things weren't clear (so yhea sort off offence taken).

And again, something I tried to express in my previous post, I do definetly not agree with the fact that you compare me to Foggy, looking at our views on Inffy. I want to remind you, that I did not go after Inffy immediately, and make clear that I was never part of the LynchInffyHype. After Inffy had been 'harassing'(little bit strong word for effect sake, more like constant focus on me) me, I started becoming suspicious of him. Not simply because he was going after me, but mostly because he went after me after he got attacked himself, only for the reason he thought I played different, something I will go into in a bit. For the whole Hip thing, yes I mentioned it, but I said I did not think Inffy had anything to do with it. I had a discussion with Inffy about it, only about the vigilante thing, unlike Foggy who has been mentioning it extensivley and does think Inffy is mafia because of it (correct me if I am wrong, gotta hurry).

Now about others on me. In my eyes, everyone who is suspicious of me used the reason that the way I play is odd/different. And for all I know, I never got a legit answer, in my opinion, why they saw it that way (sorry calling me a 'corridor' isnt a valid reason in my book). Same with you know Ender, I do not see any real evidence or any solid reasoning about me.

I am ending it here, do quote things you do not agree with/ask me about any of it. I had to hurry up writing this, so sorry if anything seems off/wrong, call me out for any mistakes.

I'll respond later, if neccessairy.
 

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unlike Foggy who has been mentioning it extensivley and does think Inffy is mafia because of it
It is not the only reason I suspect Inf of being Mafia, but it is up there

I do definetly not agree with the fact that you compare me to Foggy
I mean who would be I am so sexy and perfect in every single way, being compared to me would be like comparing a crumb to a triple chocolate cake *hair flips in your face* ;)
 

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Also before I go to work I suppose I will give you a full list of my suspicions in order from most to least.

  1. Inffy
  2. Notty
  3. Unu
  4. Samlen
  5. Ender
  6. Oak
  7. Aqua
  8. Ooglie (I almost forgot you were playing again...)
  9. Hk
  10. Mulb
  11. TWG
  12. Caff ( I still view you as Innocent Child... haha )
 

Enderfive

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The only problem I have with your entire thing is the fact that you are choosing to vote TWG I mean from what I read I would say your main suspicions lie with Inf & Notty, and if anything they are more experienced Mafia players and I believe that they would be more dangerous to keep alive (although you could argue that they would be more beneficial alive). I'm not going to force you to change your vote, merely to weigh up the pros and cons and see where that leaves you.
twg was the compromise lynch that most people were agreeing with right, at least that's the impression i've been getting for the last few pages

i could happily go for any one of those four, if that's what you're asking, i simply think that right now we're most likely to get the necessary votes on twg

Also, can I ask what the OMGUS actually stands for because you keep using the term and I want your definition so that I can read it how you intend for it to be read, thx
omgus = oh my god you suck

it means a situation where someone is fosing or voting a player because they're doing the same to them

Also am I the only person who Town Reads TWG? Like honestly I think he is just a noob at the game and I don't understand why Ender categorises iggish, HK and I in a 'noob group' but doesn't include TWG who is playing his first game.
twg is not included because i have a different opinion of him due to the fact that he's been playing somewhat differently

i see a very clear divide between inf, notty, unu and twg and all the other players looking back, whereas most other players are pretty much tangled in a web of mutual suspicions and such, the four of them are standing fairly united against the people that are attacking inf, hence my grouping of him

Let me start by saying that I find that TWG and Inf, in my opinion, have done enough things that made me suspicious of them. I have said stated my motives clearly before.
well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

Next, personally I feel like I always explained my motives, or answered questions when some things weren't clear (so yhea sort off offence taken).
that's entirely possible and i'm not putting that under question

all i'm saying is that at some points, some of the points you make are difficult for me to understand, and i'm guessing this is because i haven't played with you before and thus am not used to the way you play

i want to make it clear that i'm not putting explicit suspicion on you specifically, nor the three of you together. i simply have similar opinions of you, namely that i'm not sure what my opinion of you is, exactly.

And again, something I tried to express in my previous post, I do definetly not agree with the fact that you compare me to Foggy, looking at our views on Inffy. I want to remind you, that I did not go after Inffy immediately, and make clear that I was never part of the LynchInffyHype. After Inffy had been 'harassing'(little bit strong word for effect sake, more like constant focus on me) me, I started becoming suspicious of him.
i was mostly just looking at this current day, so if you were being harassed the day before, that's not been taken into account in my reasoning, nor do i feel like it is necessary to do it. if you're upset about how i lump you three together over the push that happened after the night was done, then all i can say to that is that it's not really the main reason, you did all push on him at that point, and the groupings were as they were because i wanted to maintain some logical order in my post, not over the fact that i find you similar as players. i don't, having similar opinions about you in terms of if i am suspicious of you or not doesn't necessarily mean i consider you similar players
 

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I feel that Inf is playing you all with this reverse psychology bull, I mean when I played last game I felt that we targeted those who had suspicion on us or we were worried about and then could easily play the 'I've been framed card'
Except hip didn't have suspicion on me so what is your point exactly?

While I don't think it too likely that he would've killed Hip as a mafioso, then I did notice how he was relatively certain that it wasn't the mafia who killed Hip at all, and instead the Vig might have killed him
I was never certain that the vig killed hip, which is why I theorised that the mafia did, which is why I wondered why (since hip is not exactly a person you'd want to target quickly because he's not that influential), which is why I concluded that there was a possibility that I was being framed. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I was certain the vig killed hip from but yeah, I wasn't, and if I made it seem like I was then my bad.

I don't have anything else to say in response to the rest of Ender's thing, since I guess for the most part, fair enough, the patterns you've noticed do exist, but as you said,
And the beauty of it all is that a lot of the reasons for voting Inf that cropped up were fairly weak. Valid, perhaps, but weak nonetheless, so it's not unthinkable for a townie to defend Inf. Caff, for example, who I'm townreading, has also been defending him.
Which I think is the case - there's a team of people defending me because logically I deserve to be defended, because the points against me have been super trashy. But I get that you think people were only posting when they were defending me and you find that suspicious and stuff, so fair enough I guess. Who knows, maybe they're mafia and trying to look innocent when I flip innocent (but I prefer my theory of: people who are pushing on me are probably mafia, as OMGUS as it is)

TWG, maybe it would be a good idea to claim soon.

Meanwhile, I'd like for Unusual_Dood, Mulbery, TheWeakGuy48_, and anyone else who isn't AFK and hasn't said who they'd be willing to lynch, to let us know.

Personally, now that TWG is getting voted and I know how I feel about it, I think I'd prefer to get aqua or foggy, but that's possibly just because TWG defended me and aqua/foggy did not so I kinda feel guilty, as illogical as that is, and this probably just reinforces the idea that we're a team to Ender but oh well, it's how I feel, for whatever reason. Maybe it's because at least TWG has been making sense whereas aqua/foggy haven't so in the event that aqua/foggy/twg are town, we'd be losing a more valuable member if we lynch of TWG as opposed to foggy/aqua.
 

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I was never certain that the vig killed hip, which is why I theorised that the mafia did, which is why I wondered why (since hip is not exactly a person you'd want to target quickly because he's not that influential), which is why I concluded that there was a possibility that I was being framed. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I was certain the vig killed hip from but yeah, I wasn't, and if I made it seem like I was then my bad.
there's a big difference between relatively certain and actually certain

as for where i got the idea, here's where i got the idea:
Also, the more I think about it, the more I'm kind of worried that the vigilante killed hip because of what I said...

if that's the case, sorry hip <3
 

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Maybe it's because at least TWG has been making sense whereas aqua/foggy haven't so in the event that aqua/foggy/twg are town, we'd be losing a more valuable member if we lynch of TWG as opposed to foggy/aqua.
Not to slander TWG or anything, but he hasn't really made a lot of sense to me anyway. No offence weak.
 

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I'm sorry I haven't been able to respond. Computer repairs took longer than I thought and some IRL stuff has come up. Due to the latter, I won't be able to participate as much as I should in this game and would ask that someone replaces me. Thanks for the fun game, and it's nice that it looks active and good luck everyone!
 

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Anyone else seeing how ender/iggish/HKCaper + Aqua might be teaming up? They started ganging up against inf at the beginning, and now when Iggish votes for me they all decide to assist him? The contradict here is that HK suspects iggish(?), but he hasnt really supported that idea.

pis aller

Vote Aqua
 

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Anyone else seeing how ender/iggish/HKCaper + Aqua might be teaming up? They started ganging up against inf at the beginning, and now when Iggish votes for me they all decide to assist him? The contradict here is that HK suspects iggish(?), but he hasnt really supported that idea.
All parts of this sentence do not make sense. Do I really have to keep saying that I was not part of the Inffy lynch hype at start, but just an individual suspecting Inffy? I had already expressed my suspicions of you before Iggish voted you, placed my vote on you, since it seemed to be Aqua (who I do not really suspect atm), Inffy or you getting lynched(please just read my posts carefully before making statements about me). Also whenever I voted Iggish and expressed my suspicions for him, I mentioned why I did, so do not give me this.

Ty.
 
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