The Red Scare [Game Over]

[Infected_alien8_]

I think you can agree, if Iggy was using a mindgame Aqua was involved, by immediately calling out Iggy for mentioning the whole thing, thus setting up a possible cover. Ender was, like Aqua, very quick to respond to Iggy and point out his mistakes (even before Aqua iirc), hence making me believe Ender would have been in on it aswell (if this was a thing).

What 'cover' would that be though

 

[Iggish]

i didn't actually, for reasons i explained later



lern2read

a reaction test is worthless if the person targeted is aware that it's a reaction test

Well I reacted like I would whether I'm a town or a mafia. You voted me with no justification so of course I got pissed off.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Lel Inffy excuse me for asking, but why did you rate my post earlier funny? Were you laughing with me or at me? (I have to know, I find the funny rating overall a bit 'dodgy')

Do note: I swear if anyone rates this post funny I'll have a meltdown.

I rated it funny because of how you said I was causing trouble

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It made me laugh

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It made me laugh

 

[Iggish]

vote Iggish

not to mention that discussing the identity of the vig is a very clearly untownie thing to do

Is this just some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that you the one buddying up to aqua in day 1?

aha, was wondering when someone would bring up that argument

if you want a substantial answer to that, you'll have to give me more time to formulate an answer, but right now i have every reason to believe that aqua was deliberately trying to make it look like we were teaming so i'd be easier to lynch during the day

and could you give me a reason for your vote against me.

what happens if i don't?

What? This sounds kinda far fetched. Also, another thing you did on day 1 was kill aqua to again bring the suspicion off you that you and aqua were teaming. This could be because you knew that Aqua was mafia (because you yourself may be mafia) and was going to be lynched and so you did not want to associate yourself with Aqua, consequently killing them off

Also with only less then one hour left until the deadline, why would you vote Aqua unless it would benefit you somehow? Makign the day 40 minutes or so shorter us a pretty shitty excuse.


I mean, you'd look scummy by not being able to justify a vote at all. Idk if you just said that to shitpost but please give me your reasons.

So igg why'd you talk about the vigilante again?

Okay, my responses to FoSes on me first.


It really wasn't. I thought that you being mafia was more likely than him being mafia, and I also did remember him being suspicious of TWG before the vote got divided between you and him, which, as it turns out, is true. His first mention of a FoS on TWG is on page 33, at which point he only had one vote on him, your vote. What's interesting though, is that you already used that point about a convenient vote switch back then, so I guess all three of us had valid points according to the way we saw the game.



If I wanted to disassociate myself from Aqua, I would've switched my vote earlier, like Mulb did, and not only after making sure no one was going to switch their vote from Aqua to Weak. Trust me, I don't value Aqua enough to sacrifice my credibility just so he can live. The only reason I switched my vote in the end was because the two hour wait that would've been was an exercise in futility, as nobody was going to change their vote anyway, and it was wracking my nerves, so to prevent me from going mental while waiting, I decided to get it over with and seal the deal with Aqua, who was going to be lynched anyway.


As for the buddying up with Aqua argument, as I stated before, I have every reason to believe that Aqua was setting me up in case he died.

When you look at the posts Aqua made and the posts that I made, you'll inevitably see that, yes, it does kind of look like we were teaming. But if you look closer, you'll notice that this was constantly more apparent from Aqua's side. While I maintained that I had no opinion on Aqua whatsoever because he was acting precisely in the style he always acts in, then he was throwing around posts like these:

(babe being me)
which make it pretty fucking obvious that he clearly wanted people to think that he supports me, what with the constant "bebe" and shit. And then he acts like I betrayed him or some shit when he gets lynched in the end. Initially I wrote it off as him simply being a friend and generally respecting my opinion, since both of those are true outside of mafia. Now, of course, it's obvious to me that this is probably what he was counting on in the first place, since now it looks pretty obvious that him and I were in kahoots with each other.

This, of course, raises the question of why? I think there are two reasons here: first reason is that I'm probably one of the easier people to do it to in this game, since I talk with him a lot anyway and am thus more inclined to believe him. Second reason is probably that I'm considered a good player for some reason and he needed some way to neutralise everything that I say, and what better way to do that than to make everyone else think I'm filthy mafia scum? I'm 100% sure that this was his plan from the beginning, in case he died, and unfortunately, due to my own preoccupation with Inf and Co., as well as the fact that I underestimated him as a player, it worked.

I don't really have anything else to say on the matter, since it's all theory and based on the fact that I am not mafia, which is something that only I know, so I'll understand if you remain in doubt, but dispelling doubt isn't really my main goal with this theory. The interesting thing is, that if we assume that the theory is correct, it opens up a few more lines of logic, that, at least in my opinion, explain fairly well some of the things that are confusing right now.

This was the first time anyone mentioned the "buddying up" after Aqua was confirmed as scum. My first question was, what attention might you be talking about? My second question was, is this some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that I just voted you? But most importantly, it got me thinking that if Aqua's plan had been to frame me in case he died, surely he would've told his mafia buddies of that plan so when the time came, they could set it in motion? How curious then, that the person under most suspicion at the time (due to him wanting to discuss the Vig again, which I might add, is extremely scummy in a situation where the Vig is the only PR left) would be the one to raise the question first, and not as a separate point, but as a distraction from the suspicion put on him at the time, almost like he had the argument waiting in his back pocket the whole time, just waiting for the right moment.

Secondly, Mulb voting Aqua without any particular need for it at the time. I believe this served a very particular purpose. I believe that both TWG and Aqua were mafia and Aqua was the better lynch between the two, because a) TWG would get town cred for defending Inf after Aqua's death all but cleared him, and b) Aqua's death would incriminate me. Taking that into account, Aqua would've definitely been the better lynch for the mafia, so Mulb's vote now makes sense.

I'm confused as fuck by all the stuff going on between Notty, Oog and Inf right now so when I figure anything out on that front, I'll let you know.

I'll explain all these quotes in a sec.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It made me laugh

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It made me laugh

 

[Nottykitten]

Lel Inffy excuse me for asking, but why did you rate my post earlier funny? Were you laughing with me or at me? (I have to know, I find the funny rating overall a bit 'dodgy')

Do note: I swear if anyone rates this post funny I'll have a meltdown.

Wow this subtext is begging for funny ratings.

 

[Mooglie]

It made me laugh

It made me laugh

It made me laugh

It made me laugh

did it make you laugh

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Sorry I'm on a train and my internet keeps going weird

 

[Nottykitten]

I'm confused

It made me laugh

Inf what

It made me laugh

did it

It made me laugh

make you

It made me laugh

do?

 

[Nottykitten]

Sorry I'm on a train and my internet keeps going weird

TIL Inf = the internet.

 

[Iggish]

Waaait, I just had a look back and ender did say something about me being vig. I didn't pick up on it though due to the fact that he didn't mention my name once and that he was responding to an inffy quote.

not to mention that discussing the identity of the vig is a very clearly untownie thing to do

Go to page 44 a bit down to see inffy's quote

 

[Enderfive]

 

[HKCaper]

What 'cover' would that be though

Tbh I am reading back the sentence I wrote there, and I honestly got no clue anymore what I meant to say there. Let me rephrase my thoughts.

 

[Iggish]

Actually, I'm really confused now because ender said he didn't give a reason so was that quote not in refernece to me or what?

 

[Nottykitten]

Waaait, I just had a look back and ender did say something about me being vig. I didn't pick up on it though due to the fact that he didn't mention my name once and that he was responding to an inffy quote.

Go to page 44 a bit down to see inffy's quote

When I take the time to look back(because you decided not to quote it yourself) it better be worth it.

 

[Enderfive]

Waaait, I just had a look back and ender did say something about me being vig. I didn't pick up on it though due to the fact that he didn't mention my name once and that he was responding to an inffy quote.

Go to page 44 a bit down to see inffy's quote

that's literally me commenting that i find you scummy because you were trying to discuss the identity of the vig

what drugs are you even on m8

 

[Nottykitten]

When I take the time to look back(because you decided not to quote it yourself) it better be worth it.

Spoiler alert I wasted my time Ender said no such thing.

 

[Iggish]

Is it just me or did Ender give a reason immediately

i didn't actually, for reasons i explained later

 

[Enderfive]

well i mean if you put it that way i guess i did give a reason fairly soon after the vote

then again
a) you didn't count that as a reason at first
b) it wasn't with the vote, it was after the vote
c) doesn't me giving a reason mean i'm less scummy, according to you?
d) if this is supposed to be a contradiction that 100000% proves i'm maf then you've earned that funny rating a hundred times over

 

[Iggish]

a) you didn't count that as a reason at first

you didn't either.

b) it wasn't with the vote, it was after the vote

seven minutes after and tbf, you didn't mention my name once and you were quoting an inffy quote which I assumed had nothing to do with me.

c) doesn't me giving a reason mean i'm less scummy, according to you?

Yeah but did you give a reason or not? You said yourself that you didn't. Also, if you had known that you had given a reason, why didn't you respond to me when I asked for it? (and no, the answer is not reaction). If you gave a reason then your reaction points are valid making you less credible.
How do I know for sure that the context of that quote was about me? You could've just said that it is when it actually wasn't to try to get me lynched.

d) if this is supposed to be a contradiction that 100000% proves i'm maf then you've earned that funny rating a hundred times over

As I said, I legitimately don't know if you said that vig thing to me or not.

 

[Enderfive]

As I said, I legitimately don't know if you said that vig thing to me or not.

i said it about you, as i already briefly explained here:

that's literally me commenting that i find you scummy because you were trying to discuss the identity of the vig

what drugs are you even on m8

and i legitimately don't get what point you're trying to make

 

[Iggish]

Wait, I'll try and make it a little clearer.
Ender said that he had not responded but is now saying that he actually did.
If his comment was about me and he feels that he responded then his points on my reaction are invalid (he said that he wanted to see my reaction to his vote with no reasons). A seven minute margin is hardly enough time to scope a reaction.
If his comment was about me and he feels that he responded, why did he not tell me that he had already responded when I was asking for reasons?