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don't

i'm out of town for two days
Oh.

Well in that case I guess I'll place my vote on who I find most likely to be mafia right now, to move the day in some kind of direction hopefully. I might unvote depending on how myuser's theory thing develops because I'm pretty interested in what he's thinking, but for now:

vote myusername22
 

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I was with HKCaper and Unusual_dood in the general quarters, but understanding where you are going with this theory of yours myuser seems more dangerous to the town then any of the mafia who come to claim ranks. If I am coming to the same page as your theory, only town members would come out to oust their ranks and it could lead to more danger to those who do if they themselves understand your theory, myuser.

Also, we did talk about (well HK and Unusual_dood talked about) townreads and guessing each other's roles while pointing metaphorical knives at each other from separate corners as to thinking someone was a mafia. It was definitely easy to see that HKCaper was going to be the big target from the mafia with how much hype surrounded his role. I am wondering how the doctor didn't see him as the most likely candidate to be lynched in all of this. HK didn't really leave too many clues as to his role or who he was gunning for in the night or previous nights, so I can't say for certain what he was trying to do with his role block ability that could have proven Notty was mafia yesterday.

I did pose the question as to how Foggy was able to double-vote yesterday and wonder if they is just another part of his abilities with his almost jack-of-all-trades ability as being the captain.
 

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Don't answer if this gives too much away to mafia, but how does knowing who has a power role or not help town out to see who is mafia, and why, if you were town, would you point out such a thing you had noticed for everyone to see, which basically stops people from claiming their classes to you for you to figure out who's mafia or not (if that's how this even works)?
The simple answer: knowing who is a power role or not doesn't help us see who is mafia. The theory was a lie in hopes of getting unusual to claim information that conflicts with knowledge I already know. I have some information about his role, and I was hoping he would claim conflicting information so that I could prove he is mafia, but sadly this plan seems to have backfired as it brought all the suspicion onto me.

To some extent I've agreed with you that he's been acting slightly different, but I have mixed feelings on this because it's felt like you started calling him out on it before he even had a chance, and I feel like he's only acting slightly differently to a point where it could also just be that he's been busy and not as focused on this game.

I really don't even know where to go from here. I believe it's likely there would be at least one mafia in each room, I'm willing to guess there are 4-5 mafia, but it's hard to tell if their room is an exception because it only has 3 people. If this is the case then there are probably 2 mafia in the officers room (I am operating under the assumption he would've been in the officer room because his role was 'Executive officer' and he was ranked Commander.

I feel that with us trying to be super secretive in terms of revealing information we've also ended up in a situation that nobody is talking because they feel like they have nothing to add. I feel like the only people who are being active have a decent shot of being town (I do find unusual_dood to be slightly suspicious, but I feel that his actions haven't been crazy out of the ordinary.)
It's important that people stay active and talking, even if you have to repeat points don't just not post things because you feel others have said them or hinted at them.
Mulbery
Ooglie101
JKangaroo
Notme
Arelic

Can you guys please try to contribute a bit more? some of you I see posts from occasionally, but I'd just like to see that you guys are trying to figure things out, and I'd like to see where you stand on the issues. Anything would be appreciated, thanks.

Also, to try to keep up activity here are some questions for everyone to answer:

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?

why?

which people are the least suspicious?

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?

who do you think we should lynch?

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)
 

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:
6.5/10

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:
5.5/10

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:
0/10 because I'm amazing and totally town!

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?
Notme for his silence, although he's not the only one being very quiet, Mulbery for seemingly being so certain about the number of mafia we had.

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?

why?
The fact that there was so much resistance in the form of silence/lack of contribution. There was a guilty report on someone, and only 2 people (me and myuser) seemed to consider her claim and think about all the possibilities of it (but perhaps for different reasons), everyone else either simply voted without any more thought or just refused to speak. Now that she's turned out mafia it's very likely some of her buddies bussed her or didn't want to get involved.

which people are the least suspicious?
Foggy, Oog. Neutral towards everyone else.

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?
Lynch someone we find most suspicious collectively, use the information for tomorrow. If anyone has any concrete information they should come forward, unless it's too risky for whatever reason, I guess they'll be the judge of that.

who do you think we should lynch?
Not sure. Thing is, the most suspicious person at this moment in time in my opinion is myuser, so I'm voting him, but at the same time there's a chance he's town and if he is then he's one of the more active ones so it'd suck to lynch him but I don't really see any other options other than unu, which is basically just a gut feeling, but if others are suspicious of unu too then I'd happily lynch him.

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)
Ltin (such a lurker!)
Notme
Jkangaroo (correct me if I'm wrong but he's only made two posts - one saying how he's confused, the other voting notty right near the end of the day, which could have been a bus I guess, since he only even spoke when it looked like notty was pretty much done for)
webpaige
K1ngHoward
Arelic
Ooglie101
Mulbery
Enderfive (but he's away so)
Foggy2406
Unusual_Dood
myusername22
Infected_alien8_

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)
Infected_alien8_ (I don't actually know if I'm most active but it feels like I'm active since I'm pretty constantly refreshing forums)/myusername22
Unusual_Dood
Foggy2406
Enderfive
Mulbery
Ooglie101
Arelic
K1ngHoward
webpaige
Jkangaroo
Notme
Ltin (lurkeeeeer)
 

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:
11 because you voted for Notty only after she was close to being lynched, possibly hopping on a bandwagon once it was obvious she was going to be lynched?

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:
11 because he did not vote for Notty even though he thought she was more suspicious than not
I would like to start of by saying I find it very likely that Notty is mafia. Both Arelic and Foggy confirmed/stated that they both had gotten an investigation result of Notty being mafia, and I don't think they are lying about that. Then Notty claimed 'Tracker' and said HKCaper visited her, which he said wasn't true. My last reason, which also has been brought up, is how the roles are themed while Notty's wasn't, and all of these points makes me sure of Notty being mafia.

I can only think of two not-super-unlikely scenarios (in my opinion) of how Notty is innocent in this situation. The first one is if all the three were lying. However, I find it being too risky to sarcifise three mafia members to only kill one townie. The second scenario is if both Arelic and Foggy's investigation was false, either by Notty being a secret miller or something or by a mafia role who could make innocents appear as scum in cop result, That followed by HKCaper would have to be mafia and take that opportunity to state that Notty was lying. That's why I think Notty being innocent will make HKCaper mafia.
Bolding mine

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:
11 because same as above
I don't believe it likely that HK is lying one one hand because it'd be suicidal to do what he's doing now if he's mafia and Notty is innocent, same with foggy, (unless Notty's role has been altered to appear as evil upon death but to make such an assumption would be a bad idea in this early stage of the game), but on the other hand I believe HK could be lying because he seemed to push hard for Notty's lynch based on the fact he could "100%" know for sure Notty was mafia, then later saying he couldn't when I asked for details, which I find odd and sounds like he just wanted Notty dead and hoped we'd just take his word for his certainty of her scuminess and lynch her, but he gave his reasons for what he did and though I don't quite follow his thought process I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though I am a bit suspicious of him, and will certainly be advocating to lynch him tomorrow if Notty dies today and is innocent

My only third suspect so far is a small vibe-based one on Unusual_Dood, yes that dude, but to push for his lynch day 1 just because of this would be crude.

Conclusion; it is probably safest bet to lynch Notty as it's more likely she is mafia and we get information from her death.

I'm still going to wait for Notme's post because who knows, maybe he has some game-changing information, and I'd like to hear what people like JKangaroo and Mulbery and TheWeakGuy48_ think, and I'd like myusername22's updated thoughts, but I think it looks like I'll be voting Notty today if Notme doesn't have anything to say because voting Notty relies on 'facts' brought to the table but not voting Notty relies on just a theory of mine about the setup having a tracker because of fog's role being true. But of course depending on what others bring up this could change
Bolding mine
Just very strange how Inf wanted to wait for everyone lurking to voice their thoughts even though he claimed to be ready to vote for Notty

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?
Mulb/Notme/Moog/Ender because lurking/being away is a good way to not be forced to vote for maf buddy
also JKangaroo but slightly
Basically everyone in game because it's only Day 2

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?
Seriously inf why didn't you vote for Notty

why?
You even said she was suspicious and a better lynch than Fog/Arelic/HK

which people are the least suspicious?
Me because I know who I am
TWG and HK because they are dead
Maybe Fog and Arelic

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?
Lynch between Inf/Unu/Myu there's scum in there I can feel it in my gut

who do you think we should lynch?
See above

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)
Notme and Moog

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)
Inf/Myusername/Fog
 

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webpaige it was very possible that someone else had information to confirm/deny someone's story. E.g. Notme could have been an investigative role also, who found HK to be mafia lawyer. Unlikely but I didn't see the harm in waiting for everyone to speak before making a decision because

Unless it got quiet and we ran out of time to lynch someone, letting a mafia member/mafia members off the hook for the day?
 

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:
7

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:
6.95

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:
8

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?
I don't trust Paige or Notme at this moment in time

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?
That not everybody voted Notty, even though my report was accurate, also Unu's unvote because of the 'lets see who bandwagons'

why?
because I am entitled to my own opinion

which people are the least suspicious?
I'm suspicious of most people... but I suppose Oog seems alright at the moment and JK in out chat seemed less suspicious than the other two

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?
I honestly think either one of Paige or Inf is mafia due to the fact Inf is still alive.... sooooo investigate them

who do you think we should lynch?
Inf or Paige, unless any other information arises

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)
I CBA to do a whole post but Oog and Notme lurkin in the shadows

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)

Inf, Myuser, Unu... annoyingly so with posts like 183080228308 words long
 

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Unless it got quiet and we ran out of time to lynch someone, letting a mafia member/mafia members off the hook for the day?
There was no deadline though was there? And if there was we'd have been warned by Ltin that it was coming up, and then I'd vote to lynch. But I'm pretty sure we had plenty of time.
 

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can i just say that paige has been lurking more than me imo :( and i'll do that question thing tomorrow but it's night night for me now!
Yeah but most of your posts are like
what
the frog turns into the prince
unless ur doing some disney's princess and the frog and you both become frogs
but i dont think you ever become the prince by kissing the frog
sorry i'm bothered by this
And you were rather absent when votes started happening, I only see
has raxo even said anything yet
To which even Inf pointed out:
Have you said anything yet about your thoughts on the notty-report situation yet, I think not... so... speak now before we... forget.
Why do you keep deflecting to other Moog?
 

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But even if someone had spoken up, how much would it have changed if it was three people's words against two?
Well if Notme had confirmed HK was a lawyer then it'd mean foggy and arelic AND notty were telling the truth. It'd turn the situation into lynching HK, I don't see why it wouldn't change anything? And that's just one scenario I thought of, Notme could have said anything and been any role that Ltin made up since this is a closed setup and anything is possible.

If anything I find it a bit weird that some people voted Notty before hearing from everyone that day - the people who gave the final votes at least, such as myuser and jkang. There's no reason to rush a lynch and if there's a chance someone could bring something to the table which is a complete game-changer, then I think it's suspicious that people don't wait for everyone to speak in case something like that happens, unless there's a deadline, which there wasn't.
 

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Well if Notme had confirmed HK was a lawyer then it'd mean foggy and arelic AND notty were telling the truth. It'd turn the situation into lynching HK, I don't see why it wouldn't change anything? And that's just one scenario I thought of, Notme could have said anything and been any role that Ltin made up since this is a closed setup and anything is possible.

If anything I find it a bit weird that some people voted Notty before hearing from everyone that day - the people who gave the final votes at least, such as myuser and jkang. There's no reason to rush a lynch and if there's a chance someone could bring something to the table which is a complete game-changer, then I think it's suspicious that people don't wait for everyone to speak in case something like that happens, unless there's a deadline, which there wasn't.
How likely was it that anyone lurking would have said anything useful though? I had no info, so why would I input other than to vote? Most likely we'd be waiting on nothing and waste time.

I don't see how the lynch was rushed at all honestly. Better to lynch at a reasonable pace rather than drag it out and open it up for mafia to make the situation confusing.
 

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How likely was it that anyone lurking would have said anything useful though? I had no info, so why would I input other than to vote? Most likely we'd be waiting on nothing and waste time.
Likelihood doesn't matter to me, if there's a chance we're all bandwagoning on a town PR then I'd say it's wise to be cautious and at least let everyone alive say something before ending the game.

I don't see how the lynch was rushed at all honestly. Better to lynch at a reasonable pace rather than drag it out and open it up for mafia to make the situation confusing.
How could mafia somehow make the situation more confusing just by waiting for more more people to speak? The only way i can think of is that they could claim fake stuff, which we would be able to use against them in the future once notty turned out to be mafia. I don't see why it's unhelpful at all to wait until at least everyone's said something, and the fact you keep pushing on that idea is making me a bit suspicious that you're just trying to get me lynched. Kinda reminds of this moment actually, which I initially just ignored and thought of as nothing, but I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern:

I am pretty sure that either He or Paige are mafia, although I cannot say for certain.
please I'm a good girl I don't do mafia things
though inf has been very quiet today, I'd like to point out
Seems you like 'deflecting' stuff onto me huh??
 

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I don't see why it's unhelpful at all to wait until at least everyone's said something, and the fact you keep pushing on that idea despite it not making sense in my opinion is making me a bit suspicious that you're just trying to get me lynched rather than genuinely look for scum/truth.
Fixed to make it clearer what I'm trying to say
 
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