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Wow guys. I leave for lunch and then you guys drop this on me. Off to re-read threads!
I advised HKCaper to not either reveal his role in science chat, or to reveal who he was going to visit. This was because I was fairly sure he was the role blocker, and if he was lucky he could be able to block a mafia night kill, and I didn't trust K1ngHoward to not be a mafia. We did speak about suspects and townreads in the conversation and HKCaper got to trust me after a while through the night (I always trusted HKCaper). I said that I town read HKCaper, Foggy and especially Weak and hinted that I was the cop
This is all true.
HKCaper town read Weak, Foggy, me and sort of Arelic. We also discussed suspects and HKCaper suspected Infected
I also said originally for HKCaper, but also for K1ng that they should look forward for my first post after night ends, for investigation result of the person I said I was going to visit
I also have reason to believe Myuser is Town, something that was mentioned in the Science chat
This is also true.
Unusual_Dood / K1ngHoward did HK hint like *at all* who he was gonna block in science chat
No he didn't hint who he was going to block, but he really wanted to. Unusual_dood told him to keep it secret in case there was mafia in the chat. A wise move in this game we call mafia.

K1ngHoward once you've checked, can you confirm that there's reason to believe myuser is innocent?
I don't really have any proof as to whether he is or isn't mafia, but my gut feeling is that he isn't a part of the mafia. HKCaper strongly thinks he is town, Unusual_dood thinks he is town, I can't go in depth or pull up chat logs like some of you have done to prove his innocence, I just am going with gut feeling. Though myuser isn't helping himself with being how active he is in chat, but that just could be him being excited about the game as town rather than a mafia member. Though all of this "thinking" he is town could just be a really good mask myuser has set up to make him look less suspicious. I will still go with my gut on saying he is town.
 

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Okay well I'm just going to put it out there that I have a theory that Unusual_Dood is currently being blackmailed by myusername after claiming cop in the science chat because:

Okay.

Can I just make sure - did anything happen to you last night, aside from getting your investigation report and being in the general quarters chat?
Won't tell.
Though I'm not sure *what* exactly he'd be blackmailed to do but he's said he townreads myuser so maybe that's it? Maybe myuser wanted Unu to claim cop and town-read myuser? But then why didn't he make it so he was his n1 investigation? Too obvious a blackmail maybe, since I was going to be able to warn everyone about the blackmail today, and then Unu would say he soft claimed cop in night chat and suddenly say myuser is town? Or maybe my theory is just wrong and I'm insane.

As for K1ng, either he's in on it too or he's just being used, since we don't know what message Unu directed k1ng to, so they could be making out it's this big townie hint, but k1ng just seems to think it's just a gut thing which is a bit weird unless I'm misunderstanding something here?

I don't really have any proof as to whether he is or isn't mafia, but my gut feeling is that he isn't a part of the mafia. HKCaper strongly thinks he is town, Unusual_dood thinks he is town, I can't go in depth or pull up chat logs like some of you have done to prove his innocence, I just am going with gut feeling. Though myuser isn't helping himself with being how active he is in chat, but that just could be him being excited about the game as town rather than a mafia member. Though all of this "thinking" he is town could just be a really good mask myuser has set up to make him look less suspicious. I will still go with my gut on saying he is town.
 

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As for K1ng, either he's in on it too or he's just being used, since we don't know what message Unu directed k1ng to, so they could be making out it's this big townie hint, but k1ng just seems to think it's just a gut thing which is a bit weird unless I'm misunderstanding something here?
No. It is just a "gut feeling". One that has no hidden motives or reason to it other than I don't think he is town. It may seem weird, but it just feels that myuser is not a mafia due to how active and in-depth he goes into his posts about the game. Now, I could be proven wrong if some other information about his role is revealed that would contradict what I believe to be true, but at this moment in time in the game, there isn't anything I would have seen that makes me think he is mafia other than a potential conspiracy to believe that he is playing the meta. Making himself extremely active and in-depth to throw us off the scent, but it seems too complicated of a plan to make errors extremely easy on his part. For the "in-depth plan", as I will call it; to succeed, he would need to have a strict idea of who he wants to pretend to be as before he can even try to hide away while playing the detective and attempting to sleuth out the other "mafia".
 

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:
3/10

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:
3/10

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:
5/10 (I am just concerned about how hard you are pushing first against HK and then myuser, but you fall into the same trap idea as myuser that you are just town trying to get to the bottom of this conspiracy.)

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?
(dang these questions are hard) Uhhh.... maybe Ooglie101.

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?
How could Foggy vote twice in day? Can he do that multiple times? what ability did he use last night?

why?

which people are the least suspicious?
Foggy, Aerlic

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?
Try to get people to talk it out other than the main players (myuser, infy, Unusual)

who do you think we should lynch?
I have clue honestly. Maybe try some fun time roulette?

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)
K1ng :p, Enderfive, Webpaige, NotMe, Ooglie101, Aerlic, Jkang

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)
Infy, Myuser, Unusual_dood
 

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:
2/10

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:
2/10

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:
4/10 - its just trust issues from previous mafia.... if I only decided to give you list of townies in that game....

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?
idk

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?
Seems like foggy is some sort of PR

why?

which people are the least suspicious?
Except for myself, well no idea

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?
Lynch most suspicious person...

who do you think we should lynch?
Whoever seems to be most mafia guy.

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)
Notme, Enderfive, and later idk at end isu nusual, infected and foggy.

who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)
Infected, Unusual dude
 

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K1ngHoward I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say - unu said myuser said something in PM which makes him confident he's town, but you don't seem to see that and instead just say you have purely a "gut feeling", although you said it was true myuser said something in chat when you agreed everything unu said was the truth so I'm confused, and was wondering if myuser was playing you and making unu pretend like there's some post to make myuser seem innocent while making it sound vague enough that you might think they're talking about a post which doesn't actually make myuser seem that innocent but go along with it anyway, if that makes sense. So to clear this up - is there a post which myuser said in PM, the one unu mentioned, that makes you confident in myuser's allignment?
 

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What? Inffy that doesn't even make sense. I've honestly no clue what evidence or reasoning makes unusual certain I'm town, but it wasn't a post I made in PM. I'm not even in their room, I'm in engineering with ender. You can ask ender if I said anything, but he will confirm that other than the discussion I've mentioned already pretty much nothing happened in our chat last night.

Also, sorry I've been somewhat Missing in action this last day. Hopefully I'll have time to make a quick post before work answering my own questions, and generally sharing some of the thoughts I have as I've been catching up now.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is myusername22:

10/10. Even if you get an innocent report this guy is the godfather.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is unusual_dood:

3/10. I'm highscoring this because the events with ltin sending the wrong message were a bit strange, but overall it seems like he is a town investigative role. I somewhat tried to follow Inffy's vibe on him, and I think my paranoia somewhat lead me to believe inffy could be right, but the more I look at it the more it looks like unusual_dood is being his normal self.

on a scale of 1 to 10 how suspicious is Infected_alien8_:

6/10. he is probably one of my top suspects now because it feels like he's been trying to throw people under the bus (especially unusual_dood) maybe he legit had vibes on him, but when I looked it appeared like unu was mostly being his normal self.

who else besides these three would you rank as suspicious?

K1ngHoward. It feels like he's dumbtelling. maybe he's just rusty and so not completely understanding the game, but I feel like he's been missing a lot of details. To me it seems like the actions of someone who's just trying to pretend they are active, but doesn't actually care about the contents of the actual game as long as they can look like they are being part of the game.

what things did you find strange about the voting pattern in yesterday's lynch of Notty?

Why were we holding back? Inffy's argument to wait for everyone to talk makes sense to a point, but he'd given more than enough time for any active player to respond in a reasonable amount of time. Not to mention it felt like me and inffy were both looking for reasons notty could be innocent. Why? Even in hindsight I can't understand my own actions. That looks scummy as hell and if I were any other player in this game I'd probably be lynching myself today.

which people are the least suspicious?

Foggy, unu, Ltin(though I still give it a 50/50 he's scum).

what do you think the best plans of action are for today?

With Recent events I'm just curious to see if anything else comes of this day. I can't subdivide into 'one of these three must be mafia' at this point, so I think the best option might be to just lynch the person we think is most suspicious.

who do you think we should lynch?

right now my choice would be infected_alien8_ for the reasons I've said above. If I get a chance later I might go back through his posts and outline the reasons I find him suspicious, but for now we'll just have to hope I get a chance on that.

Who do you think the biggest lurkers are? (please put them in order of biggest lurker to smallest lurker)

Notme. I wish he'd at least try to participate and/or play this game. The way he's playing now is the kind of person I'd normally policy lynch, but from my understanding he still acts like this every game and it gets to a point where I think we'd just be wasting a policy lynch every game. If anyone else thinks they can get away with playing like him though, I'd policy lynch them.

Arelic
webpaige
Jkangaroo
ooglie101
k1nghoward
enderfive
ltin
Foggy
Myusername22
Unusual
InfectedAlien


who do you think are the most active right now? (please put in order of most active to people who barely post)

Reverse list above.
 

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What? Inffy that doesn't even make sense. I've honestly no clue what evidence or reasoning makes unusual certain I'm town, but it wasn't a post I made in PM. I'm not even in their room, I'm in engineering with ender. You can ask ender if I said anything, but he will confirm that other than the discussion I've mentioned already pretty much nothing happened in our chat last night.

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Whaaaaaaat.

So what the heck are you guys talking about Unusual_Dood and K1ngHoward ??
 

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K1ngHoward I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say - unu said myuser said something in PM which makes him confident he's town, but you don't seem to see that and instead just say you have purely a "gut feeling", although you said it was true myuser said something in chat when you agreed everything unu said was the truth so I'm confused, and was wondering if myuser was playing you and making unu pretend like there's some post to make myuser seem innocent while making it sound vague enough that you might think they're talking about a post which doesn't actually make myuser seem that innocent but go along with it anyway, if that makes sense. So to clear this up - is there a post which myuser said in PM, the one unu mentioned, that makes you confident in myuser's allignment?
Ooooohhhh. You mean when he mentioned the specific comment made in our general quarters chat. I can't pull it up at the moment due to being on my phone or quote it directly, but it was a comment by HKcaper saying that if he died, he strong reads Myusername22 as town. Again, that is just HK's gut feeling since he had nothing to back it up and I am sort of inclined to believe him along with my own strange feeling he is town.

Also my statements of "this is true" Under his quotes were to just affirm to everyone that those underlined statements in unusual_dood's post actually happened in our night chat. Now, whether you believe me or him about what was said in our chat comes down to you. I will say that his underlined statements in his post I quoted are again true.

K1ngHoward. It feels like he's dumbtelling. maybe he's just rusty and so not completely understanding the game, but I feel like he's been missing a lot of details. To me it seems like the actions of someone who's just trying to pretend they are active, but doesn't actually care about the contents of the actual game as long as they can look like they are being part of the game.
You've caught me. I have been inactive on the forums for a long time and have not gotten used to checking continuously. I have also been busy at work along with the chat seemingly being more active when I am sleeping. These are all my fault and I am not happy with my participation in this game. I am improving more now to regularly check the forums and post often and as quick as I can because I don't want to keep using "I'm busy at work" as a constant excuse. So let's get to lynching!
 

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Also weird how now that unu is cop suddenly you're "awakened to the fact that, actually no he's not suspicious he's completely normal for himself and has been the entire game and I'm not suspicious of him anymore and Inf made me suspicious of him so don't investigate me tonight!!!" I know I can't prove that's what's going on but that's what it seems like to me right now.

And also interesting that people keep trying to use my behaviour yesterday against me despite my reasonable and logical arguments to explain what I was doing. And no myuser we had not left "enough time" already because there was still one person to post in the thread and for all we knew he just hadn't had time to read through the forums yet and had important information. But you're ignoring that probably because now you need someone other than you to be suspicious, and moreso than you, because someone's getting lynched today.

I'll wait for unu's response for how he managed to pull you into his night PM and miraculously see a post you made and town-read you because of it but honestly I'm still suspicious of you so unless unu can explain why you're likely town I'm probably going to re-vote you.
 
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