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-twg has two votes, that's hardly close to a lynch
If you only count votes he wasn't but that's without who is about to vote him, or has him as second chose or so.

-if the two statements above are true, why on earth did you claim?
First statement with Weak having a communication role, was an attempt at giving people a reason not to vote for him, without me having to out. It was wrong. Second statement, that I am cop is correct.

Reason why I claimed my role was because I know we're lynching the wrong guy, while I know another guy who's mafia.
-who did you investigate besides twg and what were the results on both investigations (i know the implication here is that twg is town, but i want you to say it explicitly, otherwise we may have some weird misunderstanding here)
First night: Hunter - mafia
Second night: TheWeak - town

-why did you decide to claim twg was some weird messenger role before outing yourself as a cop?
I hoped, even how unlikely that it seemed to be, that I could get Hunter lynched without having to out myself. First step would have to stop people lynching TheWeak. Best possible way I found to do this on, was if I claimed HE had been visiting me, giving him benefits saying it was true, even though it wasn't, to not get lynched. I hoped that he would take the hints: "trust me" and "better for town", but he didn't see it, just saying I said bullshit which was true. I didn't believe it would work, but saw absolutely no reason to not do it, since in worst case I would just claim.


I don't think we should lynch Hunter yet. I think we first should look at who could be the other mafias or third parties, based on the new information.
 

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I don't think we should lynch Hunter yet. I think we first should look at who could be the other mafias or third parties, based on the new information.
Vote Hunter
OK

I am all for voting for hunter, two mafs in a row BOIS

Though ill wait with vote according to what unu said, and see what more we can get.
 

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I am not saying we should not lynch Hunter this day. We should, but we should first prosess our information, and find the other likely mafias.
We arent in a hurry, we got strong evidence for hunter being mafia, but as you said, we can see if we can get anything more out of this day before ending it, and if anyone dont believe you, think that both you and weak or maf or something, they can discuss that.

Hunter can also defend himself before the lynch.

We are not in a hurry, but if I had to vote now it would be for hunter.
 

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But what about Hunter?
I am pretty sure he meant hunter too, but after hunter.

I will make a post about my suspicions and townreads tomorrow. Currently, I believe that there are 3 mafias left, and that these are 3 out of these 4: Foggy, Ender, Vino and Mario.
Whenever you have the time/can be bothered, could you explain these a bit more, or sum up whatever have been said/they have done previously?
 

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Okay, so

Last night I got visited by TheWeak, and he has some sort of a communication role which makes him get a nightchat with who he's visiting. His ability makes it impossible for him to mafia, and he should not be lynched today. Anyway, I know you didn't want me to out your ability, TheWeak, but trust me, this is better for the town. Please confirm. :)
Are there mafia roles which can speak to other at night?
Unu is full of shit
It was worth a try, I hoped you would confirm so I wouldnt have to out..

Im cop
Why did you out when there's still s chance I'm not getting lynched
Also would nice to have your report from last night?
TheWeak you would have been lynched, I'm 100 % sure
Should probably have waited with claiming until I was closer to lynch
Also would nice if you said who you visited n1.
There's also a slight possibility that you're lying too
If you only count votes he wasn't but that's without who is about to vote him, or has him as second chose or so.


First statement with Weak having a communication role, was an attempt at giving people a reason not to vote for him, without me having to out. It was wrong. Second statement, that I am cop is correct.

Reason why I claimed my role was because I know we're lynching the wrong guy, while I know another guy who's mafia.

First night: Hunter - mafia
Second night: TheWeak - town


I hoped, even how unlikely that it seemed to be, that I could get Hunter lynched without having to out myself. First step would have to stop people lynching TheWeak. Best possible way I found to do this on, was if I claimed HE had been visiting me, giving him benefits saying it was true, even though it wasn't, to not get lynched. I hoped that he would take the hints: "trust me" and "better for town", but he didn't see it, just saying I said bullshit which was true. I didn't believe it would work, but saw absolutely no reason to not do it, since in worst case I would just claim.


I don't think we should lynch Hunter yet. I think we first should look at who could be the other mafias or third parties, based on the new information.
Let's go after Unu's information. Hunter

Vote Hunter
THIS FEELS SO WEIRD, WTF, IS IT JUST ME OR WHAT!?!?

It just feels so... scripted and... wrong.

First of all, we had to wait almost a day afaik for unu to make his post about TWG, he made two posts saying not to vote for him and he'd respond later. This post turned out to be about 5 lines. Weird and really anticlimactic.
I mean, TWG responds to this post saying that unu is full of shit, so presumable, they had no conversation during the night. In the next post, unu says that he is cop in the most off-hand way possible. Then TWG goes to asking about his report from N1. LIKE WTF. He goes from saying that he was full of shit to instantly believing his claim, this is crazy.
Also, there is no way unu could've been sure that TWG would've been lynched, why is he "100%" sure???? Why did he suddenly jump in to defend someone who only had two votes and in doing so, exposed himself to the mafia. Possibly he panicked and jumped the gun to try to save a mafia teammate?

TWG votes Hunter because of unu's information, when unu is only soft proven cop and when minutes before this, he said unu was full of shit.
Another reason why this feels so scripted is that all this correspondence between them seemed to happen very quickly. Especially considering it took unu a day to type a 5 line post and TWG's inactivity in day 1 was insane.

And no, we do not know that unu is the cop. For all we know, we might have a counter claim. If we do not have a counter claim, then I'll probably remove my vote, but for now it stays. TWG is still too fishy for me and this feels really weird.

Bitch.
 

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Also unu, maybe you should refrain from giving your name for the time being but possible hint at it with subtle hints that can be referenced back to. If someone counterclaims, they should counterclaim with their name and then we can see by your hint if you two have the same name.

Also, could you give your reasons as to why you investigated Hunter and TWG? Hunter was obviously at random at it was night one, but what about TWG?

Bitch.
 

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Oh, also, iirc TheWeakGuy48_ , you never responded to my points against you, calling you out as suspicious and questionign your motives for stuff. Please answer the questions.
More TWG speculation and conspiracy here.

I mean, I don't think that there is any argument to be heard that TWG isn't lurking. In the previous day, he had one of the lowest message counts out of anyone. However, this has changed pretty dramatically today.
I mean, if I have counted right, TWG has posted 21 messages in this mafia game, a whopping ten of these have been posted in day 2 which has only been going like a day, this inconsistency is staggering. In the previous day, he quantified inactivity and lurking by the post above. If there was nothing to say that entire day, then how did people post a whole 46 pages?? Surely there must've have been some input he could have provided.

Another possible indicator of him being mafia is that he seemed to be on Arelic's side. This could also just be a coincidence but seriously, how many coincidences can you have before it gets suspicious.

Also, this is before Arelic was lynched when there was literally no proof that names and roles corresponded to what faction you were. While Claire's death has shed a bit of light on this subject, it's still not conclusive.
Why was TWG so sure that there could be a correspondence between scummy sounding roles and what faction they were unless they are one themselves?

Actually, I think I am definitely suspicious enough of him to push for a lynch.
Vote TheWeakGuy


Bitch.
I especially want to hear why you were so sure about the good guy / bad guy name connection theory when there was no prior evidence of this being the case.

Bitch.
 

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THIS FEELS SO WEIRD, WTF, IS IT JUST ME OR WHAT!?!?

It just feels so... scripted and... wrong.

First of all, we had to wait almost a day afaik for unu to make his post about TWG, he made two posts saying not to vote for him and he'd respond later. This post turned out to be about 5 lines. Weird and really anticlimactic.
I mean, TWG responds to this post saying that unu is full of shit, so presumable, they had no conversation during the night. In the next post, unu says that he is cop in the most off-hand way possible. Then TWG goes to asking about his report from N1. LIKE WTF. He goes from saying that he was full of shit to instantly believing his claim, this is crazy.
Also, there is no way unu could've been sure that TWG would've been lynched, why is he "100%" sure???? Why did he suddenly jump in to defend someone who only had two votes and in doing so, exposed himself to the mafia. Possibly he panicked and jumped the gun to try to save a mafia teammate?

TWG votes Hunter because of unu's information, when unu is only soft proven cop and when minutes before this, he said unu was full of shit.
Another reason why this feels so scripted is that all this correspondence between them seemed to happen very quickly. Especially considering it took unu a day to type a 5 line post and TWG's inactivity in day 1 was insane.

And no, we do not know that unu is the cop. For all we know, we might have a counter claim. If we do not have a counter claim, then I'll probably remove my vote, but for now it stays. TWG is still too fishy for me and this feels really weird.

Bitch.
Did you read my last post. I thought I explained something both me and weak understood once it was said. Please ask me if there is something you don't understand
 

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The first thing you do after I help you, is to do exactly the opposite as I want you to do.
The first thing you do after I help you, is to do exactly the opposite as I want you to do.
I am not saying we should not lynch Hunter this day. We should, but we should first prosess our information, and find the other likely mafias.
I will make a post about my suspicions and townreads tomorrow. Currently, I believe that there are 3 mafias left, and that these are 3 out of these 4: Foggy, Ender, Vino and Mario.
That was without counting Hunter.
I'm guessing you don't mean these posts?
As a result, I'm guessing that you're referring to this post:
If you only count votes he wasn't but that's without who is about to vote him, or has him as second chose or so.


First statement with Weak having a communication role, was an attempt at giving people a reason not to vote for him, without me having to out. It was wrong. Second statement, that I am cop is correct.

Reason why I claimed my role was because I know we're lynching the wrong guy, while I know another guy who's mafia.

First night: Hunter - mafia
Second night: TheWeak - town


I hoped, even how unlikely that it seemed to be, that I could get Hunter lynched without having to out myself. First step would have to stop people lynching TheWeak. Best possible way I found to do this on, was if I claimed HE had been visiting me, giving him benefits saying it was true, even though it wasn't, to not get lynched. I hoped that he would take the hints: "trust me" and "better for town", but he didn't see it, just saying I said bullshit which was true. I didn't believe it would work, but saw absolutely no reason to not do it, since in worst case I would just claim.


I don't think we should lynch Hunter yet. I think we first should look at who could be the other mafias or third parties, based on the new information.
I'm not sure where in this post you mentioned something that you and TWG understood after you said it.
There are plenty of stuff I don't understand.
My first question is for TWG: Why did you instantly go to believing unu and his role just after he has posted something that was a lie and what you described as "full of shit". In my opinion, this is another example of your erratic behavior and tendency to flip flop.

Unu, why did you come out as a cop when TWG only had two votes on him? He wasn't close to being lynched yet but you said that you were 100% sure that he was going to be. Why???
Why did you take almost a day to post a message about TWG that only turned out to be around 5 lines long? I understand that real life gets in the way of the game, but you made 2 posts in between this time which weren't significantly shorter then what ultimately was your "big" post, surely you could've just posted your big post then to save confusion.

Bitch.
 

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I mean, I don't think that there is any argument to be heard that TWG isn't lurking. In the previous day, he had one of the lowest message counts out of anyone. However, this has changed pretty dramatically today.
I mean, if I have counted right, TWG has posted 21 messages in this mafia game, a whopping ten of these have been posted in day 2 which has only been going like a day, this inconsistency is staggering. In the previous day, he quantified inactivity and lurking by the post above. If there was nothing to say that entire day, then how did people post a whole 46 pages?? Surely there must've have been some input he could have provided.
As for my "lurking" day 1 it is mainly because I didn't really had much to add to the conversation.

Another possible indicator of him being mafia is that he seemed to be on Arelic's side. This could also just be a coincidence but seriously, how many coincidences can you have before it gets suspicious.
Except I was never saying that Arelic was town? I said that of Arelic and Inffy I suspected at leeast one of them to be Mafia. I was also wanted Arelic to fully claim her role/let her defend herself, simply

Also, this is before Arelic was lynched when there was literally no proof that names and roles corresponded to what faction you were. While Claire's death has shed a bit of light on this subject, it's still not conclusive.
Why was TWG so sure that there could be a correspondence between scummy sounding roles and what faction they were unless they are one themselves?
uhhh, well when you got your role and your allignment you should probably be aware who you're enemies are? Anyway I had this little theory that the name has something to do with the allignment. My vote on you day 1 was basically to see how you'd react, and from what I've gathered you've basically just pointed out that it's unlikely you're SK because it haven't been proven that the rolenames are tied-up with the canon-names (which tbh havent been proven, at least not their allignment)
 

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My first question is for TWG: Why did you instantly go to believing unu and his role just after he has posted something that was a lie and what you described as "full of shit". In my opinion, this is another example of your erratic behavior and tendency to flip flop.
Unu was trying to make me sound town-like without himself outing as a cop. My role has nothing to do with any "message" and I didn't visit unu last night last night, so naturally I called unu out saying that it was bullshit. Then he claimed to be cop, and then it made it obvious that he tried to make me look inno (but a very bad attempt).
 

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First of all, we had to wait almost a day afaik for unu to make his post about TWG, he made two posts saying not to vote for him and he'd respond later. This post turned out to be about 5 lines. Weird and really anticlimactic.
I didn't spend a day to write that post if that's what you mean. I was worried that Weak could have been lynched before I was able to get home, and introduce some new information. Not exactly sure why you find that weird and anthiclimatic, but sure.

I mean, TWG responds to this post saying that unu is full of shit, so presumable, they had no conversation during the night.
It was full of shit, and we didn't have a conversation at night. This was just an attempt at proving that Weak was town, without that I had to out myself as a cop.

In the next post, unu says that he is cop in the most off-hand way possible. Then TWG goes to asking about his report from N1. LIKE WTF. He goes from saying that he was full of shit to instantly believing his claim, this is crazy.
Well, of course you can remove 90% of my post and call it "the most off-hand was possible". I said:
It was worth a try, I hoped you would confirm so I wouldnt have to out..

Im cop
which means that my earlier statement was "worth a try" and my idea was that TheWeak ciuld have confirmed it, so I wouldn't have to out myself to prove his innocence. Since that idea didn't work, I claimed.
He goes from saying that he was full of shit to instantly believing his claim, this is crazy.
No, he goes from saying my first statement was full of shit, then I tell my second statement (my role claim), and he asks who I visited. What is crazy about it?

Also, there is no way unu could've been sure that TWG would've been lynched, why is he "100%" sure???? Why did he suddenly jump in to defend someone who only had two votes and in doing so, exposed himself to the mafia. Possibly he panicked and jumped the gun to try to save a mafia teammate?
But Unu, we had the same amount of votes on Jolt as we do on TWG so what was the point of outing at this stage of the day?
Hunter got 1 vote on him at the moment, which means he won't be lynched this day, becayse that's for sure how it works. You can't only count people who have placed their votes at him, but also people who would be willing to do so, or are about to do, and if town people are any of these.
Me jumping in claiming cop to save a mafia member is actually the worst idea I can imagine a mafia member doing at the situation, most likely getting them both killed, in the trade of getting a cop outed.

Foggy, you tell me why I should have waited for a later stage of the day, because I have honestly no idea why I should have done so.
And no, we do not know that unu is the cop. For all we know, we might have a counter claim. If we do not have a counter claim, then I'll probably remove my vote, but for now it stays. TWG is still too fishy for me and this feels really weird.
Please remove your vote, until I actually gets counterclaimed. There is absolutely no reason to keep it there, unless you are antitown of course.
 

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As for my "lurking" day 1 it is mainly because I didn't really had much to add to the conversation.
Fair enough, I still think the change in your activity has been pretty bizarre and suspicious but I guess keep going over this point won't get us anywhere.
Except I was never saying that Arelic was town? I said that of Arelic and Inffy I suspected at leeast one of them to be Mafia. I was also wanted Arelic to fully claim her role/let her defend herself, simply
Yeah, this wasn't really a primary point of mine in my suspicions of you. I pointed out that you seemed to be defending / standing up for Arelic and that it could be a coincidence or it could not be, this point isn't very important as it's completely based on theory and I'm probably reading too much into this.
uhhh, well when you got your role and your allignment you should probably be aware who you're enemies are? Anyway I had this little theory that the name has something to do with the allignment. My vote on you day 1 was basically to see how you'd react, and from what I've gathered you've basically just pointed out that it's unlikely you're SK because it haven't been proven that the rolenames are tied-up with the canon-names (which tbh havent been proven, at least not their allignment)
Now, this is the primary point and I don't buy this. How could you know who your enemies would be and who would be on your side purely based just off your name alone. This game said non-canonical and at the time, we had no way of knowing to what degree the non-canonical would go to.
I'm pretty sure this is the first time you have mentioned a "reaction test" on me.
I guess my options for lynch is Iggish, Arelic and Inffy. Well I think that of Arelic and Inf, at least one of them is scum (that means 3rd party/mafia). Birdperson seems like a thirdparty role, yet it still can be town. Inffy could also be mafia where Foggy's theory could be true (that inf is a rolecop for mafia and another mafia drugged arelic). Personally I think Iggish could be a SK simply because there were 2 kills last night, and one of them probably is from 3rd party (if not the mafia have an ability to kill twice).

Vote Iggish
The reasoning you gave for my vote was that I could be a serial killer just because two people died last night. That's it. There is no hint of a reaction test here though it could explain the God awful reasoning, but I still don't believe it.
Because in the show, Iggish' rolename is a fucking serial killer, and when 2 ppl die in the first night it usually means there is a serial killer. Like a vigiliant wouldn't randomly kill someone night 1 and it's too early for birdflu/poision to kill someone.
This is a post you made on page 38 and iirc it was trying to justify your vote on me. So you're saying that you were willing to kill someone over a
little theory that the name has something to do with the allignment
This is insane. Why would you be willing to kill someone based on a "little theory". I think it was more then a theory. I think you were sure about there being a connection between characters and factions because you conferred with your mafia buddies and so, among yourselves, you made the connection. If not, answer me this question:

Why were you willing to kill someone just based off a "little theory"? Mafia normally grab at any opportunity there is to try and lynch an innocent townie. This is unbelievably scummy. Explain yourself.

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No, he goes from saying my first statement was full of shit, then I tell my second statement (my role claim), and he asks who I visited. What is crazy about it?
I think that this is crazy because before you posted your post claiming cop, TWG must've surely thought you were scummy as you reported something that was a lie and was false. So I'm not sure how he can go from that opinion to trusting you immediately when you claim cop.
Well, of course you can remove 90% of my post and call it "the most off-hand was possible". I said:
"im a cop" is such a casual way of claiming such a significant and important role as the cop. Just compare this claim to Inffy's claim as Tammy and you'll see why I believe that this is extremely off-hand. Surely you would've put more preparation / effort into a cop claim? Idk, that could just be me, but for the significance of the role, it seems weird. And, no I didn't remove any of your post iirc? I'm not sure what you are tlakign about.
I didn't spend a day to write that post if that's what you mean. I was worried that Weak could have been lynched before I was able to get home, and introduce some new information. Not exactly sure why you find that weird and anthiclimatic, but sure.
Because the fact that you were keeping us waiting made me think that it would be a very large and complicated post, which it was not, and so in my opinion, anti-climactic. Surely, if you had time to write those posts, you could've introduced that information then and there? It wasn't a lot of writing, especially considering that you thought it very important.
Please remove your vote, until I actually gets counterclaimed. There is absolutely no reason to keep it there, unless you are antitown of course.
No, I will keep my vote. It is only one vote and I think this way it keeps the pressure on TWG who I still consider extremely suspicious. If there is no counter claim then I will more then likely remove it. TWG is in little danger of being lynched right now and I think my vote serves it's purpose.
The other possibility is that Rune was the cop and so we might not have a counter claim because of that.

Bitch.
 

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Unu was trying to make me sound town-like without himself outing as a cop. My role has nothing to do with any "message" and I didn't visit unu last night last night, so naturally I called unu out saying that it was bullshit. Then he claimed to be cop, and then it made it obvious that he tried to make me look inno (but a very bad attempt).
Yeah but surely just after he said the post that was "full of shit", you were extremely suspicious of him at that time. I mean, he had just lied to you. Why would a townie lie. I mean, I can understand unu's idea about the conversation at night, trying to make you look inno. What I can't understand is the massive leap in faith you had in him in such a short amount of time.
I mean, you later say that he could be possibly lying, but you only say this later on. Surely your first reaction to someone claiming a PR who just lied to you would be you being dubious over their claim.

Bitch.
 
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