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OAK HOW WOULD I BE ABLE TO VERIFY HER CLAIMS

IF SHE'S COP H O W CAN I VERIFY THAT

IF SHE BLOCKED ME H O W CAN I VERIFY THAT AS A VANILLA TOWNIE, AND WHY WOULD I IF SHE'S COP

also Vatumok Oak63 literally nobody else had claimed cop, WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU EVEN DOUBTING HER CLAIM WHEN SHE'S THE ONLY COP CLAIM

WHY ARE PEOPLE GUESSING HER ROLE AND RUINING HER PLAN

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Iggish: weird Canada thing that he cleared up pretty nicely
Rune: literally lied several times and avoided questions asking about it

Notty: iggish is definitely mafia and rune is probs town since it's too easy to lynch him (meanwhile literally only I am wanting to vote rune)

Notty also was like 100% sure of Aqua's scumminess d1, even when Aqua made an at lease somewhat decent defense she completely ignored it, saying it was just more "inf did this waa waa" (not exact quote) even though he wasn't. I pointed it out at the time.

Notty what do you think about Aqua's defence btw
I think it's weak at best. Just feels like a bunch of 'inf misquoted me' and 'inf is taking my words out of context' over and over again while we already know they weren't.

Plus I feel people are forgetting he's Donald Trump.
What about this post specifically, where he explains that he didn't change his tune to thinking I was silencer and just said it would help us determine whether there was one and that him posting after TWG was a coincidence and he was actually responding to oog's rating theory? Or were you including that post in your answer?
On the other hand Notty (and Rune) seemed to completely ignore Aqua's somewhat reasonable defence and said it was just more 'inf misquoted me' even though that particular post wasn't and I'm paranoid that Notty's just wanting Aqua lynched for reasons other than scumhunting, but I also town-read Notty so
Also I noticed this going back

You're just mentioning this because it's exactly what you're doing and you're trying to downplay it like it's not.


Plus it's time for me to use the 'look if Aqua was town wouldn't the Mafia have lynched him by now? The low stagnant amount of votes proves he's Mafia!!'.
Huh this didn't apply to rune huh how weird (lol im contacting the fence!)

So yeah I'm pretty suspicious of Notty and I'd like for her to be killed sooner or later.
 

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I'll have you know Inf I was the first person to vote for Aqua yesterday so (this sentence has no point)

Iggish: weird Canada thing that he cleared up pretty nicely
Rune: literally lied several times and avoided questions asking about it

Notty: iggish is definitely mafia and rune is probs town since it's too easy to lynch him (meanwhile literally only I am wanting to vote rune)
Two can play that game.

Iggish: Refuses to vote for Aqua, a MAFIA, and instead focusses on another lynch (TOWN).
Notty: Refuses to vote for rune, a TOWN, and instead focusses on another lynch (MAFIA).

Inf: Notty is totally shady iggish did nothing wrong I am not a hypocryt even though I'm accusing Notty of doing something that I didn't think was scummy when Iggish did it. Plus I am litterally copying one of Notty's argument agains't Iggish from yesterday and using it against Notty as if it were a solid argument yet I've refused to acknowledge that Notty had a similar argument against Iggish yesterday and instead Notty only had some stupid country thing.
 

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Inf: Notty is totally shady iggish did nothing wrong I am not a hypocryt even though I'm accusing Notty of doing something that I didn't think was scummy when Iggish did it.
How am I accusing you of doing something Iggish did?

Plus I am litterally copying one of Notty's argument agains't Iggish from yesterday and using it against Notty as if it were a solid argument yet I've refused to acknowledge that Notty had a similar argument against Iggish yesterday and instead Notty only had some stupid country thing.
What? When have I done that? When did you do anything similar to what Iggish did???

Two can play that game.

Iggish: Refuses to vote for Aqua, a MAFIA, and instead focusses on another lynch (TOWN).
Notty: Refuses to vote for rune, a TOWN, and instead focusses on another lynch (MAFIA).
Yeah except Iggish gave a reason that made sense, you didn't
 

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Also to clear up confusion between webpaige and Oak63

I mean
In the case where I'm the Cop, he could be vanilla town and would not have known he was blocked. Or his role couldn't be blocked.
In the case where I'm the Drunk, he could be any alignment and I wouldn't know- of course he'd say he's town if he was serial killer/autocrat/mafia.
I'm not claiming to be both the drunk and the cop at the same time. I'm one or the other.
Yeah I get that, what you actually posted doesn't make sense though

'In the case where I'm the Cop, he could be vanilla town and would not have known he was blocked. Or his role couldn't be blocked.'

In the case where you are the cop you should know what he is because YOU INVESTIGATED HIM, and whether or not he was blocked or not is absolutely irrelevant because you are the cop not the drunk. Also that bit on the end about his role not capable of being blocked also makes no sense to me either.

The drunk part makes sense, what you said about the cop part makes absolutely no sense, at least to me and it is 6am here.
It means that he has no way of verifying that what I say is true
What Oak was saying was that you said "if I'm cop, inf could not know he was blocked", but in the scenario where you're cop, I wasn't blocked, but your sentence assumes that someone attempted to block me by saying "would not have known he was blocked. Or his role couldn't be blocked", which is what Oak was pointing out

but other than that oak's whole "Inf can show us if you're lying" doesn't make sense
 

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How am I accusing you of doing something Iggish did?


What? When have I done that? When did you do anything similar to what Iggish did???


Yeah except Iggish gave a reason that made sense, you didn't
You're saying im scummy for not having voted rune. I said yesterday Iggish was scummy for not having voted aqua.

If you think I'm scummy for not voting rune then how can you not thing Iggish is scummy for not voting Aqua. Plus my reason makes perfect sense once you think from a perspective where I am convinced Iggish is Mafia. If you thought Iggish was Mafia yesterday would you have still gone for the Rune lynch even though Iggish is pushing that same lynch? I doubt it.
 

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You're saying im scummy for not having voted rune. I said yesterday Iggish was scummy for not having voted aqua.

If you think I'm scummy for not voting rune then how can you not thing Iggish is scummy for not voting Aqua. Plus my reason makes perfect sense once you think from a perspective where I am convinced Iggish is Mafia. If you thought Iggish was Mafia yesterday would you have still gone for the Rune lynch even though Iggish is pushing that same lynch? I doubt it.
I'm saying you're scummy because you were magically correct about three reads, two of which you were absolutely certain on to the point where I find it hard to believe that you didn't have any information on them

Iggish actually had a fair reason for not voting Aqua. As Iggish pointed out, the only thing Iggish saw as suspicious about Aqua was that he "lied", but then he went back and saw he didn't lie so lost a lot of suspicion for him, but since Aqua was quite shady he was still thinking he was scum, especially since me and Aqua were going so hard into each other and he found it likely one of us was mafia while the other was town because it was less likely for a town to go that hard on someone, so for 2 town to do that seemed even more unlikely. He also said he didn't want to kill aqua since if he was town it'd make him look bad as Hilary, which I agreed with kinda suspicious but still, his reason actually made some sense.

Meanwhile, you didn't want to vote rune because you said it was too easy, even though it wasn't and I have no idea where you got that from, and when I asked you about it later in the day when it was obvious that it wasn't too easy, you didn't answer and switched to Iggish instead.
 

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Iggish actually had a fair reason for not voting Aqua. As Iggish pointed out, the only thing Iggish saw as suspicious about Aqua was that he "lied", but then he went back and saw he didn't lie so lost a lot of suspicion for him, but since Aqua was quite shady he was still thinking he was scum, especially since me and Aqua were going so hard into each other and he found it likely one of us was mafia while the other was town because it was less likely for a town to go that hard on someone, so for 2 town to do that seemed even more unlikely. He also said he didn't want to kill aqua since if he was town it'd make him look bad as Hilary, which I agreed with kinda suspicious but still, his reason actually made some sense.
No it doesn't make any sense. Repeatedly saying "Im pretty confident Inf is town and Aqua is Mafia" and then not voting him. You say he thought it 'made him look bad since he's Hillary' yet he uses the same information of being hillary to confidently say that Aqua is Mafia and you're town in your argument. I've repeated this about 5 times yesterday and I really don't feel like rehashing the same argument but you just dont seem to understand why I thought Iggish was suspicious, and not voting Aqua all the while saying 'im confident he's not the same alignment as me' was extremely suspicious and a scum move in my eyes.

Meanwhile, you didn't want to vote rune because you said it was too easy, even though it wasn't and I have no idea where you got that from, and when I asked you about it later in the day when it was obvious that it wasn't too easy, you didn't answer and switched to Iggish instead.
How was it not easy? Name me one person that got two or more votes yesterday. Name me one person that actually had a chance of being lynched yesterday or that people even considered to lynch(besides my vote on Iggish). Not only the day before plenty of people voiced their suspicion with Runes pursuit agains't Iggish (making him clearly the prime lynch target for the next day) but ALAS as soon as the day starts the argument against rune continues.

Why did I think it was easy you say? It was completely and utterly obvious from even the end of the day before that Rune was going to be the lynch target of that day unless someone provided a better one(which wasn't going to happen unless a cop claimed). I'm not sure how you don't get this.

Meanwhile the only reason I'm not voting you is because Web has proclaimed you inno but you're playing extremely out of character from how you usually play in my opinion. Maybe it's because I'm on the other side of the argument but everything you say seems off from how I expect you to play which is what made me think you're the SK in the first place. (and a secondary reason being that I think Oog is scummy I feel it in my bones <o>)

Furthermore on the Web situation, you can't honestly expect her to make this weird claim and think that if nobody says anything the Mafia is just going to roll over and pretend like shes not the cop and not murder her during the night. Pretty sure we all know she's going to die tonight so she might aswell come clean and make an actual roleclaim because even if nobody said anything I doubt anyone was buying the drunk part.


*bla bla bla*
So Inf how about you provide us a list, quite like mine, of who you think is Mafia/SK/Autocrat/Town. Or if you dont have gut feelings how many Mafia do you think are even left and if it's 3(I saw you suggest me/vat/someone today) do you think the SK and autocrat are the same role?
 

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No it doesn't make any sense. Repeatedly saying "Im pretty confident Inf is town and Aqua is Mafia" and then not voting him. You say he thought it 'made him look bad since he's Hillary' yet he uses the same information of being hillary to confidently say that Aqua is Mafia and you're town in your argument. I've repeated this about 5 times yesterday and I really don't feel like rehashing the same argument but you just dont seem to understand why I thought Iggish was suspicious, and not voting Aqua all the while saying 'im confident he's not the same alignment as me' was extremely suspicious and a scum move in my eyes.
But, as he said at the time, Rune was more suspicious than Aqua so he voted Rune. Tbh I could've easily switched to rune too. So I don't see what he did as scummy and I don't see why you do.

How was it not easy? Name me one person that got two or more votes yesterday. Name me one person that actually had a chance of being lynched yesterday or that people even considered to lynch(besides my vote on Iggish). Not only the day before plenty of people voiced their suspicion with Runes pursuit agains't Iggish (making him clearly the prime lynch target for the next day) but ALAS as soon as the day starts the argument against rune continues.
It wasn't easy because it took me bribing people with jaffa cakes to get anyone to place a vote on him. Sure a few people pointed out rune was suspicious - me, Iggish, aqua and you iirc, but only iggish voted for him on that day, and only I (maybe Iggish I don't remember) had voted him the previous day. Yet someone you jumped to the conclusion that it was too easy to lynch him, even though nobody else had even voted him or tried to lynch him.
Why did I think it was easy you say? It was completely and utterly obvious from even the end of the day before that Rune was going to be the lynch target of that day unless someone provided a better one(which wasn't going to happen unless a cop claimed). I'm not sure how you don't get this.
Except it wasn't obvious, and he wasn't easy to lynch by any means.

Furthermore on the Web situation, you can't honestly expect her to make this weird claim and think that if nobody says anything the Mafia is just going to roll over and pretend like shes not the cop and not murder her during the night. Pretty sure we all know she's going to die tonight so she might aswell come clean and make an actual roleclaim because even if nobody said anything I doubt anyone was buying the drunk part.
I mean it's possible, depends on who the mafia is.

Meanwhile the only reason I'm not voting you is because Web has proclaimed you inno but you're playing extremely out of character from how you usually play in my opinion. Maybe it's because I'm on the other side of the argument but everything you say seems off from how I expect you to play which is what made me think you're the SK in the first place. (and a secondary reason being that I think Oog is scummy I feel it in my bones <o>)
Well I feel the same way about you, usually I agree with things you say but this game I've not been able to understand you most of the time because your reasons for your actions haven't seemed legit to me.

*bla bla bla*
So Inf how about you provide us a list, quite like mine, of who you think is Mafia/SK/Autocrat/Town. Or if you dont have gut feelings how many Mafia do you think are even left and if it's 3(I saw you suggest me/vat/someone today) do you think the SK and autocrat are the same role?
Mafia: You, Oak, then either it's just you two or there's one other; one of Vat/TWG/erik
SK: TWG/erik/oog
Autocrat: HK/oog (mostly hk)
 

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Anyway now that paige's plan has failed then yeah, ltin was our blocker (and he wasn't one-shot like I pretended), and roles in this game don't have names like "Drunk" so I thought it was pretty obvious she was cop and yet vat and notty still pressed for her to claim cop which I found unnecessary since, sure it was unlikely her plan would've worked, but I don't see why they needed further clarification on it, especially since she was the only cop claim
 

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Yet someone you jumped to the conclusion that it was too easy to lynch him, even though nobody else had even voted him or tried to lynch him.

Except it wasn't obvious, and he wasn't easy to lynch by any means.
I did find it obvious Rune was going to be the lynch target of the day, even in this very post you say you could of switched to him. I'm gonna chalk this up to being your opinion but from where I stand the fact that it took long doesn't have any say in whether it was easy or not to lynch him. What does is that it was clear Rune was going to be lynched and nobody did ANYTHING to even try and lynch someone else. It doesn't matter if it took long just a bunch of rambling on about how theyre not sure meanwhile not providing any other person to lynch.

You've played Mafia plenty to know that if someone is deemed 'generally most suspicious' it doesn't matter if they're not voted off immediately, as long as nobody else gets even close to being found suspicious that person will be lynched whether it takes bribing with cakes or a deadline to force people to act.


Anyways waiting for Erik and Oog to claim.
 

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I did find it obvious Rune was going to be the lynch target of the day, even in this very post you say you could of switched to him. I'm gonna chalk this up to being your opinion but from where I stand the fact that it took long doesn't have any say in whether it was easy or not to lynch him. What does is that it was clear Rune was going to be lynched and nobody did ANYTHING to even try and lynch someone else. It doesn't matter if it took long just a bunch of rambling on about how theyre not sure meanwhile not providing any other person to lynch.

You've played Mafia plenty to know that if someone is deemed 'generally most suspicious' it doesn't matter if they're not voted off immediately, as long as nobody else gets even close to being found suspicious that person will be lynched whether it takes bribing with cakes or a deadline to force people to act.


Anyways waiting for Erik and Oog to claim.
Ok so quote where he was deemed generally the most suspicious since I'm pretty sure only like 4 of us said he was suspicious
 

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Also you said it was "too easy" at the start of the day so how did you know nobody was going to try to lynch someone else instead
I didn't, but generally people don't and unless someone had concrete evidence like cop stuff I doubt any attempt would of gained traction.

Ok so quote where he was deemed generally the most suspicious since I'm pretty sure only like 4 of us said he was suspicious
Call me out on this all you want but I can't be bothered to go back and read those pages, from what I remembered then and what I remember now plenty of people(the most vocal ones) were considering he was the second most suspicious besides aqua that day.
 

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I didn't, but generally people don't and unless someone had concrete evidence like cop stuff I doubt any attempt would of gained traction.
Well if you didn't know then how can you say that the reason you thought rune was an easy lynch was because nobody tried to lynch anyone else?

I didn't, but generally people don't and unless someone had concrete evidence like cop stuff I doubt any attempt would of gained traction.


Call me out on this all you want but I can't be bothered to go back and read those pages, from what I remembered then and what I remember now plenty of people(the most vocal ones) were considering he was the second most suspicious besides aqua that day.
Alright, well maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but I'm pretty sure that only myself and Iggish said rune was suspicious enough to lynch, and then you eventually said he was more suspicious than anyone else when I asked for your opinion, and then Aqua said rune was suspicious enough to lynch when he was nearly killed.
 
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