Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

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maybe if you didnt flood the thread with posts every game and always say stuff multiple times people would respond to each individual post a bit more carefully xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
the only time I say something multiple times if when someone ignores me so

maybe if people responded to me the first time then I wouldnt have to repeat myself
 

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Inffy, idk if I speak for other people, but I'm willing to give notty the benefit of the doubt. A no-lynch on day 0 isn't a disaster, while lynching a strong town PR is. We can always revisit this tomorrow when there is more evidence etc.

But seriously though, people should try and give a reason for not voting notty and whether you believe the claim or not, and stop focusing on Inf for the moment, it doesn't do anything useful and it's counter productive IMO.
Just answer the question lol.
 

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Inffy, idk if I speak for other people, but I'm willing to give notty the benefit of the doubt. A no-lynch on day 0 isn't a disaster, while lynching a strong town PR is. We can always revisit this tomorrow when there is more evidence etc.

But seriously though, people should try and give a reason for not voting notty and whether you believe the claim or not, and stop focusing on Inf for the moment, it doesn't do anything useful and it's counter productive IMO.
Just answer the question lol.
wow thank you for actually giving a reasonable answer to my question instead of half-answering it 100 times and having me have to ask you over and over again cough hipman500

I guess you're right, it's not the end of the world if we NL today and revisit it
 

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No we can't, people believe her for some ungodly reason. Lynching you is still a tiny possibility if people get there shit together instead of voting no-lynch for no reason.
myuser may vote her, oog may, comp may, danni may, unu may, roob may, twg may, kuriz may, rune may

we have plenty of chance to get either me or notty, at least throw everything you can to make it notty over me if she's your #1 suspect
 

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My reasons behind not voting notty are in that I think it would be incredibly foolish for Jolt and arelic to make every "bad card" mafia or anti town. i seriously doubt that they think we wouldn't have gathered that we would discover all the roles immediately because lets face it Tavern Arcana and our role names give it away. I think by saying that "oh her role clearly is bad according to the card info" we are not thinking of the fact that maybe this is what they would want us to think about roles.

Even death isn't a outright negative card but it's name sure as hell indicates that it is.

This being said your "ultimatum", as some of us have been calling it, is very obviously that considering you outright said we have two options when you are another strong one. Not to mention that you have also been doing the typical thing and saying that those who don't do this are clearly mafia buddies or are likely suspicious. If at this point in the game you trust anybody you are doing it wrong.

And yes I did say above that I trust notty more than I do inf, I still think she is hiding something but i want to see what the night and day brings.
 

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My reasons behind not voting notty are in that I think it would be incredibly foolish for Jolt and arelic to make every "bad card" mafia or anti town. i seriously doubt that they think we wouldn't have gathered that we would discover all the roles immediately because lets face it Tavern Arcana and our role names give it away. I think by saying that "oh her role clearly is bad according to the card info" we are not thinking of the fact that maybe this is what they would want us to think about roles.

Even death isn't a outright negative card but it's name sure as hell indicates that it is.

This being said your "ultimatum", as some of us have been calling it, is very obviously that considering you outright said we have two options when you are another strong one. Not to mention that you have also been doing the typical thing and saying that those who don't do this are clearly mafia buddies or are likely suspicious. If at this point in the game you trust anybody you are doing it wrong.

And yes I did say above that I trust notty more than I do inf, I still think she is hiding something but i want to see what the night and day brings.
It wouldn't be foolish if notty hadn't claimed immediately, like I say you can't mass claim in a game like this just incase there is some 3p role or something that would win from it.
 

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My reasons behind not voting notty are in that I think it would be incredibly foolish for Jolt and arelic to make every "bad card" mafia or anti town. i seriously doubt that they think we wouldn't have gathered that we would discover all the roles immediately because lets face it Tavern Arcana and our role names give it away. I think by saying that "oh her role clearly is bad according to the card info" we are not thinking of the fact that maybe this is what they would want us to think about roles.

Even death isn't a outright negative card but it's name sure as hell indicates that it is.

This being said your "ultimatum", as some of us have been calling it, is very obviously that considering you outright said we have two options when you are another strong one. Not to mention that you have also been doing the typical thing and saying that those who don't do this are clearly mafia buddies or are likely suspicious. If at this point in the game you trust anybody you are doing it wrong.

And yes I did say above that I trust notty more than I do inf, I still think she is hiding something but i want to see what the night and day brings.
That's not what I said at all. I outlined the two options that everyone obviously has in terms of their position with notty. I said either you vote her, or you explain why, which is totally reasonable. If you could explain why, then fine, I'm not going to be suspicious, because why would I be? Anyone is free to vote who they want, but obviously if they don't give reasoning I'm going to be suspicious.

But hk mentioned it was an ultimatum and notty's been tossing the word around to manipulate people and suddenly I'm blackmailing people into voting notty which is not what happened in the slightest
 

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That's not what I said at all. I outlined the two options that everyone obviously has in terms of their position with notty. I said either you vote her, or you explain why, which is totally reasonable. If you could explain why, then fine, I'm not going to be suspicious, because why would I be? Anyone is free to vote who they want, but obviously if they don't give reasoning I'm going to be suspicious.

But hk mentioned it was an ultimatum and notty's been tossing the word around to manipulate people and suddenly I'm blackmailing people into voting notty which is not what happened in the slightest
I mean your track record of pushing people to no end could be enough to make newer players vote her, ergo blackmailing them. (not saying I think this)
 

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I mean your track record of pushing people to no end could be enough to make newer players vote her, ergo blackmailing them. (not saying I think this)
I'm just pointing out that she's incredibly suspicious, and in my opinion, obviously scum. And if people disagree and have reasons for doing so then that's fair enough. But given that I think she's mafia, if people refuse to vote her without providing any reasoning, naturally my next thought is that they're probably her mafia buddies. I'm not blackmailing anyone, I'm just saying how I see it
 

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town roles that *can* be detrimental exist sure but they will always have some kind of potential use too, a role that is just based on destruction or detriment is not likely going to be town and I find it a stretch to consider it so
what about a miller, like i pointed out in the very post you quoted?

also yes i'll be doing that dumb thing where i reply to stuff as i'm reading through stuff
 

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what about a miller, like i pointed out in the very post you quoted?
fair enough, I guess miller isn't useful for town and just serves as a setback

I agree it's possible there will be a town role that is just destructive/chaotic but in a game of these 23 cards, some of them will be mafia. When one of them is about destruction, as opposed to ones about love/peace/temperance or whatever, naturally I find it likely that the destruction one is probably one of them which was chosen to be Mafia. Obviously that could be wrong but my read on notty supports my conclusion as well. I find it most likely that notty is scum which is why I want to lynch her
 

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fair enough, I guess miller isn't useful for town and just serves as a setback

I agree it's possible there will be a town role that is just destructive/chaotic but in a game of these 23 cards, some of them will be mafia. When one of them is about destruction, as opposed to ones about love/peace/temperance or whatever, naturally I find it likely that the destruction one is probably one of them which was chosen to be Mafia. Obviously that could be wrong but my read on notty supports my conclusion as well. I find it most likely that notty is scum which is why I want to lynch her
(plus her claim seems like a lie to me which is further support for her being mafia in my opinion)
 

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NOTTY HAS CLAIMED

EVERYONE HAS TWO OPTIONS

EITHER 1) SHOW WHY YOU BELIEVE THE CLAIM AND DON'T VOTE HER

OR 2) VOTE HER

IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE

THIS WAY WE CAN KNOW WHO'S REFUSING TO VOTE FOR 0 REASON TO SAVE A MAFIA BUDDY AND SEPARATE THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GENUINE REASONS NOT TO VOTE

anyone who doesn't do this is SUSPICIOUS to me <3​
unvote

vote Inf
 

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So I'm just gonna outright say it. We have 8 votes on Inf right now and the deadline is in 1 hour 20 min (unless I'm wrong) so if anyone is still debating whether or not to lynch him you should probs make up your mind very soon. I think we could still get 4 votes (Dess, Weak, Iggish and ??? maybe roob since Oog/Jivvi are gonezo). It seems others are clearly catching on about his tunnel visioning and persistance so maybe this lynch might just be a reality after all.
 
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