Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win
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As mentioned earlier, Roob and myself, but I was blocked somehow. I chose not to use my ability on the nights prior.
Danni122112
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I want this discussed first
Your theory is nice and all, but it doesn't have any effect on the game right now. Everyone but you have claimed, and they will find yours easily by knowing what roles are not claimed. I would prefer if we focused on the game as it is right now rather than make theories about it.
Maybe Ooglie was death after all then. I honestly susp'd Ooglie as he was suspicious of notty but never really pushed for a lynch that much imo.
Jivvi got killed (and was strength[SK]) and he didn’t claim a card iirc so I doubt if mafias have to know the card to kill people
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I think what danni was referring to is that whoever was responsible for the day kills had to know their target's card before they can kill, since in both day kill situations their cards were revealed right before they died.
If Notty is the mafia blocker and Rune is the town blocker (something I will assume until he is cc), then how did you get blocked?
Since Rune visited none (according to himself) and Notty were dead already at that night. Since there is higly unlikely a third role blocker in the game so either you or rune is lying, but for Rune to be lying it is explained wlth one of these scenarios: there either are no town role blocker, the town blocker were one of he hidden roles (aqua or oog) or the true roleblocker hasn’t cc yet. There not being a town role blocker is diffucult to say anything about, so I doubt if Rune claimed town roleblocker as mafia in big risk of getting cc and lynched so I dont think thats the case. Also for a 23 player setup I would say theres a big chance that there is a town blocker. There might be a town blocker among aqua/oog but then it wouldnt make sense for aqua to claim 1-shot vig. For oog it could maybe but I doubt it since you were cc his role card and I find it hard to explaim how u are both town. Therefore (unless rune gets cc) I think u must be mafia.
You have already claimed bus driver and tbh I cant really see any reason for why the town would have such a role since it will most likely just create a mess for town, and I also dont see why you would use the ability. However, if u were a mafia bus driver, this could explain the roob/oog incident that you switched oogs card (since you knew roob would most likely be visiting oog) with whoever is death (probably a mafia member since you would in that case know who it is).
So, I have gotten very suspicious of Mulb. I also think we shouldnt lynch between the role cops yet, since it will also force mafias to let the actual town cop live.
Sorry for messy post, got little time. Hope most of it is understandable.
Oho, so Erik is DEFO Mafia. Not sure how I can prove it but Erik is lying 100%. It's interesting that the instant I claim, he CC's; most likely doing this because he knows that there is a good chance I can get lynched. It's also interesting because he claims Foggy can prove this, but in what way? His ability doesn't correlate to any investigative role. If anything, I'm inclined to believe that Fog and Erik are mafia buddies.
Anyways, the reason why I took priority for Choco over Notty was after my period of inactivity; I come back seeing Choco acting super scummy. I don't ever trust Aqua after his incident so when Choco was defending Aqua, to the point that even Aqua told him to back off; that I thought he was more scum than Notty. Obviously I was wrong but my reasoning was that even if Notty didn't get lynched; he would be investigated 100%
Anyways, the reason why I took priority for Choco over Notty was after my period of inactivity; I come back seeing Choco acting super scummy. I don't ever trust Aqua after his incident so when Choco was defending Aqua, to the point that even Aqua told him to back off; that I thought he was more scum than Notty. Obviously I was wrong but my reasoning was that even if Notty didn't get lynched; he would be investigated 100%
The reason why I can't prove it as well is due to the fact that because I visited no-one, there won't be any indication that I blocked somebody. I didnt block anyone because the period of night was during my periods of inactivity. If anything, I'll be sure to be proven Inno if Erik gets lynched today, which I hope so.
It's really difficult writing on a laptop which is why my posts are brief.
It's really difficult writing on a laptop which is why my posts are brief.
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Unusual_Dood There's no reason for me to lie about my action being blocked - it is what it is and even if it does raise suspicion on me I am still trying to tell the truth. What I got was a message that said that the swap I tried to do failed - no other information was given.
As for how a bus driver could be town, the ability can be used like a doctor, just with more downsides. You can think of me swapping roob and myself as a means to sacrificially protect roob last night. You mentioned the chaos it would cause - which is precisely the reason why I chose not to take the risks on the first few nights.
As for how a bus driver could be town, the ability can be used like a doctor, just with more downsides. You can think of me swapping roob and myself as a means to sacrificially protect roob last night. You mentioned the chaos it would cause - which is precisely the reason why I chose not to take the risks on the first few nights.
Ok, So, I think at this moment in time that
Rune
Mulb
Erik
are Mafia.
We have proof that Roob's reports are a real thing from the fact that he revealed Geek's role before they died. However, I do find it shady that he hasn't been killed off yet and I thought that would be a priority for the mafia to lynch. Secondly, I believe Oog was given the death card which caused his death, that is why im pretty sure ERIK is mafia due to the fact that only Roob and Erik visited him last night. Furthermore, Ooglie also visited Rune last night, however, since Oog died suspiciously we have no ideas as to what he did last night, but it is possible that Rune is a role that when visited kills off anybody who visits, yet they die the next day from poisoning (perhaps they have a tea party).
Also, I am inclined to believe that Mulb is mafia purely because I find her and Oog claiming the same card just before he died rather suspicious.
Rune
Mulb
Erik
are Mafia.
We have proof that Roob's reports are a real thing from the fact that he revealed Geek's role before they died. However, I do find it shady that he hasn't been killed off yet and I thought that would be a priority for the mafia to lynch. Secondly, I believe Oog was given the death card which caused his death, that is why im pretty sure ERIK is mafia due to the fact that only Roob and Erik visited him last night. Furthermore, Ooglie also visited Rune last night, however, since Oog died suspiciously we have no ideas as to what he did last night, but it is possible that Rune is a role that when visited kills off anybody who visits, yet they die the next day from poisoning (perhaps they have a tea party).
Also, I am inclined to believe that Mulb is mafia purely because I find her and Oog claiming the same card just before he died rather suspicious.
I disagree, I think a rune lynch may be best. I cast my suspicions on him earlier and I still think he is likely mafia especially now with a counterclaim. However Danni does need to claim now so we know who to trust
Explain why you first said that the swapping failed for some reason, while later said it was because you were role blocked. Surely you wouldn’t have any idea why it happened.
Interesting how the one person you got suspicious of out of the 11 people who voted Choco, got counterclaimed. Also interesting that the role Rune is claiming happen to be the second most important PR role we have here, and still you want to risk lynching him, despite the fact that you will (unless you are lying about ur role, which u obviously aren’t) be able to prove him wrong or correct with your role. Well, unless you get night killed ofc (which Rune might be able to prevent if he is tellinh the truth), but then we just lynch Roob instead.
Ok, I asked why you doubt me over Erik and have had no reply? In fact, you instantly downplay that Erik could be mafia by the fact that he CC'd. I believe that Erik is most likely mafia as there is no reason for him to CC apart from casting more doubt on me to get me lynched; and its working. I already admitted that it was a mistake that I voted for Choco but at the time, he seemed more scummy than Notty and I was wrong about it. But this time I'm sure I'm right that Erik is scum
I'm voting Erik as I know for a fact that he is now Mafia, because Temperance is my card. He waited for someone who was already suspicious to claim so he can CC and cause confusion. This is highly scummy and he has no reason to do this other than scum behaviour.
Vote Erik
Ah ok. However, as I believe Twg said I think the mafias are able to figure out who had what cards already, because there have been so many that have claimed, so claiming his tarot card would probably even if thats the scenario be a better opion.