this is fearmongering imo
I find Aqua frustrating but I kinda very sliightly town-read him but not enough to trust him, just his weird attacks on notty earlier trying to brush her being mafia under the carpet seemed kind of typical for a townie aqua to do since I feel like he tends to interpret people's posts in the most incriminating and schemeing ways possible as town out of paranoia, but he could have just faked it obviously
o k
Shit, I didn't see the format thing.
elect: Hunter, Aqua, Infected_alien8_, Enderfive, Faliara
I don't understand, if you believe me, fali and ender are town then why not replace one of us with another potential maf? We only /really/ need 2 likely townies as representatives (fair enough this could result in a council made up of three mafia. However, it's more likely one of the other 3 will be a townie and support the other two townies. Besides in the case 3 unconfirmed do make it to the council together, we can be sceptical of their alignment report, with no real harm done). You should swap one of us out for notty.
Just because her maths was wrong that doesn't mean that the chances of us successfully lynching will not still be significantly worse if we have a pool of 26 players as opposed to 13, because obviously it will.
o k
(legitimately really thrown off by the triple negative here, fairs I did just wake up, but I THINK what you're saying is retarded)
Also I think we should do oog's plan and then go to a full mass claim if we need to (depending on how many civ claims we get)
iirc
Ooglie101's plan was to just have the 5 most useless pr's claim their specific PR. This would decrease your dumb statistics even more inf as it would increase the pool for potential mafia. In this scenario mafia can claim a PR role as well as civilian without claiming specifics and you wouldn't be able to prove it.
Like HK has been saying mafia never goes the way you plan. Why are you so hard set on using a strategy over your intuition and ability to read people like... idk... ANY OTHER MAFIA GAME.
and don't go and quote notty's post saying if town makes 1 mistake they lose because once again IT IS WRONG and shows 1 scenario out of the possible millions.
this is fearmongering imo
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it once again.
Like in most games when
Nottykitten 's mafia she is using pretty basic manipulation/debating tactics in order to try and manipulate town (this game strawmanning, incite to anger, appealing to ignorance and , as jivvi noted, fear-mongering.)
If notty were protown and genuinely did believe this strategy to be the best way forward for town, she wouldn't have to undermine my argument by misrepresenting me or insulting me. Either she would be able to prove me wrong by logic which she still hasn't done, as she still hasn't given a logical response to any of my accusations/counterpoints to her arguments or would give up on her strategy as it is flawed in the ways I and others have pointed out.
This basically leads us to three out comes notty's either:
being an arrogant townie and refusing to respond to me properly because for some reason her head's up her arse and she doesn't think I'm worthy of a response.
Mafia and has no way of debating those who oppose her/people wanting her to claim thus tries and ignore (as I said brush under the rug) or strawman to make them look stupid as she has been doing.
and thirdly, she's trying to buy time to think of some way of making an uncountable argument with as many exits as possible so she won't be pinned and can evade suspicion when her strategy proves antitown
^if you don't believe the third one as earlier she strawmanned this point trying to take the piss out of me, look at tavern arcana where she did just this (which I called her out for and was ignored by sheep townies so please don't fall for this again town <3)
Anyway.
As I have made pretty clear the downside to notty claiming compared with the positives is incredibly minor and this would prove so much whilst helping town actually move in the right direction, whether being able to trust notty infallibly or being sceptical of her innocence.
@inf (shitty forums wont let me tag rip) - you understood why I wanted notty to claim before, as another big presence in this game who supports notty's strat, do you think she should claim? and if no, why? what are the downsides and how do they outway the positives?
@oog same with you, ya little cuckboi shill