Republic - Completed
- Thread starter Prizyms
- Start date
LISTINGS09
Ain't afraid of no ghost
3 town is the bare minumum for our council as I said like 30 pages back.
You must have a majority vote within the council so you must have 3 confirmed town. Velz may be town, but I don't think they even know themselves so I'm not voting them in.
As great as that would be, I'd rather have 3 potential dissidents forced to skip their night actions. That's a big plus for town.
All this talk about autocracy is a little worrying, maybe my faith in you was misplaced? Who wouldn't want to disable the dudes who can kill us? Plus the way the votes are going it looks like Inf will be the pick of the representatives to be killed for the sacrifice if the democracy holds anyway... Hunter/Velz/Fal have it pretty set, I'm assuming Ender is on there as he's suspect too, will have to read back but inf seems to have stuck their neck out too far with all the posting. I don't think it will end well.
I'll put HK or Aquas name forward for a subpoena, want to know I can back them as I'm not sure right now.
You're correct that I'm behaving "odd". I didn't sleep well for the past 3 days and also still have lots of catching up to do with physics. And rereading the thread three times, yeah as if I would be doing that. No I wrote that and then tried to reread it, got bored, and proceeded to do something else.
Although my activity and usefulness: This is the "second" time I play mafia and if you would kindly compare how I behaved previously and behave now, that is: Write random shit, write my opinion barely explaining it and that's it.
Sometimes you might consider it useful, sometimes useless. What can I say?
Afterall inffy mentioned how "different" acting I am. Maybe I am employing a new strategy, maybe I'm just intuitively reacting to things like right now or maybe this "different acting" is actually not true.
Because what is there to talk about? Somehow for me this stuff is irrelevant.
So you want something "useful" from me? Here:
I'll just say democracy because we will have better chances there, or at least that depends on who appears in the council.
Reconsidering: Having only town in council might give a good reason to go dictator, but for that all 5 reps would have to be known townies.(or someone fucking up the game) Be it Democracy or Authocracy in the end will depend on the Council anyway, since they will have more or less the full information to act upon.
Btw, democracy into dictatorship means skipping one potential mafiakill
And then killing dictator will mean skipping another potential mafiakill
We already had talked about that thing last game as well
Also I'm kinda done with this Com, didn't want to ruin the game by simply disappearing though.
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
Opinions from the last 5 pages before I go to uni:
Sploorky acting weirdly defensive, I know he's being drilled by inf which can be infuriating but still think it's notable
Ltin is being dumb and doing nonsensical dumb things, HOWEVER, this shouts townie to me usually because mafia Ltin tends to sheep hard so him actually having a voice, even if it's a bad one seems more townie.
Fog is maf with inf
scrable is really weird but that's just scrable. Finding it hard to read him tbh.
Sploorky acting weirdly defensive, I know he's being drilled by inf which can be infuriating but still think it's notable
Ltin is being dumb and doing nonsensical dumb things, HOWEVER, this shouts townie to me usually because mafia Ltin tends to sheep hard so him actually having a voice, even if it's a bad one seems more townie.
Fog is maf with inf
scrable is really weird but that's just scrable. Finding it hard to read him tbh.
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
Also I believe keeping ender in a democratic council if he is the rev (which that will prove as there won't be a rev kill tonight if we're in a democracy) is our best move, it will stop him from being able to nightkill or win. He'll basically become a cute mascot <3
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Elect: Scrable, Sploorky
I agree with Aqua that ltin seems town this game
I'll do the rest of my votes later
I think having 2 confirmed and 1 Mafia is probs the best idea since whilst blocking Mafia is useful the only time it's going to help us find Mafia is if we block poisoned but Mafia could just choose not to poison to frame someone too so
But Ive just woken up so my opinion on that might change
I agree with Aqua that ltin seems town this game
I'll do the rest of my votes later
I think having 2 confirmed and 1 Mafia is probs the best idea since whilst blocking Mafia is useful the only time it's going to help us find Mafia is if we block poisoned but Mafia could just choose not to poison to frame someone too so
But Ive just woken up so my opinion on that might change
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
So you decided to lie about re-reading the thread already before giving your opinion on democracy vs autocracy, and funnily enough siding with democracy
Why would you even lie about that
Because I was tired, also I already was convinced that democracy will be the best way to go.
Just didn't know what people wrote previously.
Is it really lying though? Anyway, with the third time I actually managed to force myself to read your posts.
I mean jesus, the amount you write.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
It is lying yes, when you literally tell everyone you've re-read the thread, are presumably informed about the different arguments, and then take a side of democracy
Being convinced democracy is the way to go without even reading the thread sounds like mafia who's just trying to go with the lesser option
So you've now read it a third time???
Also what's your opinion on Sploorky?
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Also now that I'm actually awake I think blocking mafia poisoner should be our #1 priority and I think we should ditch the 100% instant-accurate reports (we'll know if they're likely accurate later on anyway) in an attempt to isolate the poisoner because in democracy without the poisoner dead, even with a decent cop system, I can't see us realistically winning
Having poisoner dead actually gives us a shot
Having poisoner dead actually gives us a shot
:shrug:
Ofc everything has to sound like mafia. This is just my intuition speaking, why exactly should democracy be better? I pointed it out in one of my posts, pretty major actually.
Not really going with the lesser option, otherwise why would I go with it? How would you handle a dictatorship, which will implicate a no lynch for town + a dictator which will highly likely die on the same day...
I read it a first time, I can understand though how you can mishear "first" as "third".
No opinion on him currently.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Yeah I must have misheard you my bad???
I mean I don't really understand how that even makes sense if you replace 'third' with 'first' since you said it as if you didn't read my posts before but then managed to make yourself
To make your life easier if you're mafia
Have you got an opinion on anyone? Since last game you had reads on people, this game you seem to have done no scumhunting at all
Mooglie
The Local Cow
velz is 100% town unless one of the 3 roles we're having people claim to be one of has chosen to throw the game
3 town is the bare minimum to make up the representatives (of the 5 people), but only 3 of these people go to court along with whoever they choose to subpoena & only those 4 people (3 representatives + subpoenad person) are blocked, so the other 2 representatives can just go do whatever their night actions are
Mooglie
The Local Cow
tbh this is an interesting thought
we've all been looking at the council as a group cop but what if it was a group ROLEBLOCK (this idea even feels dumb as im typing it)
when the 5 representatives (hunter/fali/velz/???/???) are elected, in their evening chat thing they choose which one of the 3 proven go to court and who to subpoena, then they take both unproven people to form the 3 person council
best case scenario, the two ??? and the subpoenad player are all mafia (one being gula) and choose to not kill the proven representative with them for whatever reason (maybe the subpoenad player is the godfather) resulting in 5 mafia being blocked in total (2 ???, subpoenad, 2 more carrying out the mafia night kill) and an 'accurate' report from the representative (i mean it would show the godfather as innocent but whatever the representative is still alive!!)
it's probably likely that the representative going with them will be killed off BUT this would also suggest that one of the two ??? are mafia since who would they know to kill but we do lose a report by doing this
i just dont know if in this setup where 2 citizens appear mafia & 2 scum appear town (godfather + revo) if getting peoples alignment outweighs the benefits of possibly blocking 5 mafia (i mean this is pretty unlikely it would really be like 1 probably) since this setup's mafia are very strong power roles
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Yeah I think this would be the best way to use the council actually
I think Listings has been trying to say something similar but I remember saying about how we'd end up not getting a report but if we manage to block the poisonor then we get more mislynches = reports aren't as valuable anyway
If we don't find poisonor and we get accurate reports it's highly unlikely to get us mafia each time anyway either, meaning it'd probably be better to do it like this