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Jivvi

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if we go autocracy council should be roob/fali/aqua/???
??? needs to be town obviously
cannot be ender since he'll obviously not be the dictator since we need his own individual kill to catch up with people tonight
cannot be inf since the roleblock is very important as well so he wont be dictator
i do not support everyones idea for ??? being jivvi since i dont trust him!
im also acting as if a roleblocker doesnt exist and cant just roleblock ender and ruin everything
tbh it's literally impossible for town to win this
if we were all set and prepared for autocracy (with no chance of something fucking up again) we could get the democracy-blocker to claim
 

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You may not intentionally play against your win condition without a valid reason to do so.
If what the general vibe is to get notty lynched, me disagreeing with that would only get me lynched as well, resulting in another townie dead.

I still think the rev could claim as some sort of weird meta play, but jivvi i see why you think there would be no reason to claim.

So i have decided (although i dont agree fully, but general town consensus appears to be) to just follow whatever if im needed. (wow a 180 how rare, how odd)

Now im gonna go for a bit, pce, (staying would be against my win condition, since ill prob say shit which will get me lynched)

(if there is a layer of sarcasm on top of this post, just read thru it, its not intended to be full sarcasm)
 

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Even still tho, this game is a difficult one for town to win, I feel like the fact that rev is safe from accidental death due to random nk from mafia (or in this case Enderfive xoxo) is too strong.
if we go autocracy council should be roob/fali/aqua/???
tbh it's literally impossible for town to win this
No-one is going autocracy. It's been a tough first day, but it's not over yet. If we can sack off Notty I'll have some hope.
I have a slight feeling jivvi listing and twg are all mafia and notty is actually rev and they're just agreeing with me to appear townie monkaS
I had twg as town first, but some of their recent choices haven't been that aligned to town, their vote choices aren't too smart when we're already set on who to put into the council.

If I was mafia I'd just sit and watch everything burn.
 

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Because Ltin could have been subverise or the possible real subvierse might not want to cc inf today because a) we will not be able to kill inf this day+night anyway so claming this day would only giv mafias info and b) inffy can be proven lying in other ways
lying in what other ways

god the stupidity

Like sorry, but it’s been stated a million times in this game why rev would never claim.

Notty is not that bad at the game.

It has also been stated many times, why notty did great as a mafia yesterday, especially by OUTING ENDER.

Her best play if she didn’t want to be lynched was claiming rev.

Somehow it’s working and I’m just making a mental note that anyone that’s supporting notty at this stage either must be mafia, or does not understand or read the game.


For myself, I don’t got much more to add. As long as notty is our next target I’m happy.
I’m reading everything and keeping up
All of her actions also make sense coming from the rev, just because you can explain it in terms of her being mafia doesn't mean she's not the rev

Can we all just point out the obvious actually @everyone

Notty is clearly not the rev as if she was, mafia would literally just kill her tonight if we weren't to lynch her.

Like... she's saying she wants to target mafia...? They would literally be eliminating an entire opposing force and a potential threat from the game with a single nk.

Why have we not addressed this???

WHY ARE WE ALL RETARDED???????
rev can't be nightkilled

i support notty too
lynch me instead
thanks
same

Yes I mean Notty. If Notty is actually telling the truth (and is the rev), it forces the mafia to kill Notty, because otherwise Notty would win. If Notty is mafia, it forces the mafia to actively hunt for the real Rev, instead of focusing on the town.
rev can't be nightkilled

in an ideal world inf/the real submersive will block the mafia roleblocker by pure magic, both dictator and ender kill will land on mafia

but this is like very improbable!
leave it to my <o> ;)

but tbh I think having me as a possible dictator wouldn't be that bad since the likelihood of my block being good is pretty low BUT my block could be useful so it's like the ultimate WIFOM situation, same goes for roob/ender/fali's the obvious choice but SURPRISE WIFOM
I don't think you understand, it doesn't matter if the dictator dies or not, so Ender could be on the council
if the dictator dies we're forced to NL yet again and can't do autocracy anymore because otherwise rev wins

some of what I said was already said after by someone else but oh well I'll leave it in

But I don't agree Jivvi should be in the council since whilst I don't particularly scum-read him I don't particularly town-read him either
 

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God, for the fucking millionth time, notty is not rev.

I don’t understand why on earth you believe it.

Don’t let a mafia get a free pass from claiming rev.

I still don’t care if we go autocracy or democracy.

Our most important job is to kill of one of the most obvious mafia claims I have seen. If notty was threatened for a lynch, sure, if she didn’t out ender, maybe. Her claim is a blatant lie, now stop making fools of yourself and just fucking kill her.

Holy shit, worst case scenario, we killed a third party. I get that the rev wants to kill mafia, but this is a person that is my a mile most likely to be mafia, and might maybe be rev.

Please just get notty, this is insanely stupid, I don’t understand what happened to the brains of half the players here.
 

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At work so I'll try to keep it simple

I think forcing autocracy is awful. I think people are too strung up on "what if the dictator dies immediately" but even if the dictator lives through the night, he or she is eventually going to die. When this happens, the town will be forced to remain in a constant democracy or threaten a rev win. We would also only have 3 council seats, so if we want to lynch an antitown then we would need to put them on a council(this assumes they will play nice) and they will be privy to all council happenings. We really don't want that and I think this rotation we need to stick to democracy as much as we can so we don't force a do or die situation.

I think notty is still mafia and I fully intend to keep voting notty to get lynched. I'll relook at my council votes later when I get home just to try to put the best people for town on there
 
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