Emoji Mafia - Completed

[Thinking]

angry - ?
blush - roleblocker
halo - sponge
hearts -follower
joy - balancer
mask - watcher
sob - ?
sweat - ?
thinking - authenticator
unamused - tracker
winking - defender
yum - item distributor

 

[Yum]

Surprised more people didn't claim villager, honestly. Three is a bit low

 

[Hearts]

Trying to keep track of all the roles with all the targeting is honestly tiring especially since all of our profile pictures are so similar. So please forgive me if I mess something up.

As far as I can tell, the main concern is that Unamused is lying about their role as a tracker since there doesn't seem to be a redirection role in the game. I wanted to give credit to them for claiming early on, but the contradicting result is a bit weird. Could it be a rushed claim?

Also, I am rather curious about how Halo's claim works with a disguiser in the game.

 

[Thinking]

Trying to keep track of all the roles with all the targeting is honestly tiring especially since all of our profile pictures are so similar. So please forgive me if I mess something up.

As far as I can tell, the main concern is that Unamused is lying about their role as a tracker since there doesn't seem to be a redirection role in the game. I wanted to give credit to them for claiming early on, but the contradicting result is a bit weird. Could it be a rushed claim?

Also, I am rather curious about how Halo's claim works with a disguiser in the game.

a rushed claim wont excuse the disrepancy between unamused's reported self visit and mask's claimed visitors to yum. how can you even rush a claim if you have the truth in front of you anyway? unless it's a fakeclaim...

speaking of claims i would love to hear from sob, angry, and sweat. all 3 have made appearances since the massclaim started and havent bothered to claim. angry and sweat posted and sob rated something a while ago

i get wanting to wait until every claim is in but there is a deadline looming pretty quickly

 

[Thinking]

here are my updated thoughts for everyone still in the game, please check back on d4 thx

angry - im leaning toward maf now for them. they seem to be buddying with blush and did a lot of roleplaying as their only post so far without claiming which is annoying. additionally they did a lot of casting doubt on mask and winking and did not seem on board with lynching unamused.

blush - i think they are mafia since winking claimed. blush has been willing to lynch shades and is waiting for every claim before revealing their opinions. blush is claiming to be a roleblocker. i dont think anyone else has claimed to have been blocked, and roleblocker can either be town aligned or mafia aligned.

halo - is thinking things through and doesnt trust yum. their claim is dodgy too as sponge sounds weird when put with the rest of the claims so far, and that sponge is mechanically similar to guiser. a common third party role is amnesiac which does the same thing but isnt limited to town only, but there are no third parties in this game. im conflicted as halo has been cooperative but their claim itself is strange

hearts - their follower claim looks genuine and seems like a more universal version of the bodyguard. since town looks like its lacking in protective roles im inclined to believe hearts for now

joy - balancer sounds dodgy especially since town already has a lot of investigation roles. probably mafia

mask - watcher is a powerful role, and they knew i visited yum before i confirmed my night action, and directly conflicted with unamused's claim. weirdly they didnt seem to pick up on the claim discrepancy which might explain why they waited until the massclaim. town.

sob - who?

sweat - stop saying your catching up and claim your role please, you have been level headed in the other 2 days but please claim omg. seems town otherwise

unamused - claims i visited myself and is the ringleader for the redirection theory which hasnt been definitively proven. i read them as mafia, the reasons why ive been banging my head on a brick wall for most of the day so i wont repeat myself for once

winking - probably the second most controversial emoji of the bunch atm since they claimed late and didnt appear to realize they were roleblocking people. i have multiple reasons for why i trust them rn so let me break this down

i claimed early on today i was blocked, and winking quickly addressed it when they claimed their role. they took initiative to clarifying it. since i know firsthand i didnt get results, i suppose buying this part of my reasoning requires believing my claim too

second is their role name defender. since its different it could be forgiven that they didnt counterclaim blush the day before. the overlooked aspect is they protect players from being guised which winking claims to have been operating under the most. im more willing to trust winking over blush because of this additional aspect of their claim, and they are similar to a jailkeeper in that respect.

yum - my suspicion meter on them has gone down a little since theyve been cooperative, and of course being the itemgiver explains a lot. probably town.

 

[Unamused]

alright stop jesus christ this is exactly what happened every other day when a townie got lynched. led by the same people too

i'll start addressing things but first of all Hearts who did you visit cause if you visited thinking when i did that explains why i got the result i did

 

[Thinking]

alright stop jesus christ this is exactly what happened every other day when a townie got lynched. led by the same people too

we're two days away from the deadline and less votes close to a deadline gives maf more power, so my vote stays until i get a good explanation thanks

if anything today is going much slower than the previous ones because of the massclaim and some of the same people like blush arent piling on like they usually do

 

[Hearts]

a rushed claim wont excuse the disrepancy between unamused's reported self visit and mask's claimed visitors to yum. how can you even rush a claim if you have the truth in front of you anyway? unless it's a fakeclaim...

That was what I was implying.

i'll start addressing things but first of all Hearts who did you visit cause if you visited thinking when i did that explains why i got the result i did

I didn't utilise it on Night 1 since it was just the start of the game, but I chose to visit Halo on Night 2 just because I thought they were trustworthy enough and I wanted to pick someone on the off chance they're targeted. Night 3 I visited Blush due to their claim.

 

[Unamused]

its strange that you just ignored it when you posted that interesting chart

Unamused (me) claimed to have received a report indicating that Thinking visited themselves. This can be explained by my action being redirected by a bus-driver-esque role. I believe confusion was aroused by the fact that i didn't specify that my reports only state "target", leaving some ambiguity.

i didn't phrase it properly but i did point out that i thought i must have been redirected, ie most likely by the role

we're two days away from the deadline and less votes close to a deadline gives maf more power, so my vote stays until i get a good explanation thanks

if anything today is going much slower than the previous ones because of the massclaim and some of the same people like blush arent piling on like they usually do

you literally ignored the second line of my point (out of two lines)

you wanted evidence of someone being able to make my result a possibility and here it it but you didn't want to hear it? how strange

hearts came out and said they didn't visit me which could be a lie (closed setup etc, won't push this point though) or it could be the truth. however, the existence of one redirection role means the existence of another isn't exactly unlikely.

thinking one of my main fos's at the moment cause you're been pinning me up as this idiot who's perpetuating the idea that there must be a bus driver when i've mentioned it maybe a few times when people ask what the fuck is up with my report. i asked myself the same thing when i got it and i don't understand why you think anyone would claim such an unlikely result.

reasons my claim would be an awful move for a mafia member:

a) tracker is a very common role and is almost guaranteed to be in a closed disguiser-based setup. why would mafia fake claim so early?
b) i claimed a report which goes against the mechanics of the game outside of certain roles which we can't know exist. why would a mafia do this?
c) i could very easily have said i didn't have a report and leave whoever claimed blocker in a much worse position but i didn't. you're welcome
d) as a mafia member, there's no play i can think of that would benefit from me trying to insist that there's a certain specific role in the game. like what would i even do if i "got away with" telling everyone you visited yourself? what would i have accomplished?

you can argue that the "why would i do that as mafia" route is easily twisted into a WIFOM but if i was mafia i'm pretty sure i'd be borderline throwing going off how shit my report claim is. it'd be like shades but the other way round.


also speaking of blockers don't we have 2 blocker claims? should probably look into that. the fact that we apparently have 2 roles made specifically to try and find the guiser also strikes me as pretty suspect

 

[Thinking]

you literally ignored the second line of my point (out of two lines)

i just wanted to address the fact you have votes separately

you wanted evidence of someone being able to make my result a possibility and here it it but you didn't want to hear it? how strange

i do want to hear it i just pointed out its only me and yum as the core people that have made votes

hearts came out and said they didn't visit me which could be a lie (closed setup etc, won't push this point though) or it could be the truth. however, the existence of one redirection role means the existence of another isn't exactly unlikely.

thinking one of my main fos's at the moment cause you're been pinning me up as this idiot who's perpetuating the idea that there must be a bus driver when i've mentioned it maybe a few times when people ask what the fuck is up with my report. i asked myself the same thing when i got it and i don't understand why you think anyone would claim such an unlikely result.

agreed that there should have been multiple redirection type roles but in that case why havent any town members come forward yet, i want to hear those last 3 claims

i never said you were an idiot i said you were lying, i dont needlessly insult people. also i would like to point out one of the main reasons im pushing for your lynch is because mask claimed watcher and said i visited yum

reasons my claim would be an awful move for a mafia member:
a) tracker is a very common role and is almost guaranteed to be in a closed disguiser-based setup. why would mafia fake claim so early?
b) i claimed a report which goes against the mechanics of the game outside of certain roles which we can't know exist. why would a mafia do this?
c) i could very easily have said i didn't have a report and leave whoever claimed blocker in a much worse position but i didn't. you're welcome
d) as a mafia member, there's no play i can think of that would benefit from me trying to insist that there's a certain specific role in the game. like what would i even do if i "got away with" telling everyone you visited yourself? what would i have accomplished?

you can argue that the "why would i do that as mafia" route is easily twisted into a WIFOM but if i was mafia i'm pretty sure i'd be borderline throwing going off how shit my report claim is. it'd be like shades but the other way round.

a)tracker is also commonly mafia aligned
b)redirection as a red herring and makes it so you didnt have to claim my real night visit
c)why would a tracker not visit n1
d)again, redirection confusion. to be fair i did choose to believe your story until mask gave out conflicting information

also speaking of blockers don't we have 2 blocker claims? should probably look into that. the fact that we apparently have 2 roles made specifically to try and find the guiser also strikes me as pretty suspect

blush claimed roleblocker
winking claimed defender (roleblocks and prevents someone from being guised)

one of the two is maf

 

[Unamused]

i just wanted to address the fact you have votes separately

i've addressed my report (the primary reason people are voting me), and i've addressed how i think some of the people leading the vote have also lead previous votes are are thus likely mafia.

i do want to hear it i just pointed out its only me and yum as the core people that have made votes

yes

a)tracker is also commonly mafia aligned
b)redirection as a red herring and makes it so you didnt have to claim my real night visit
c)why would a tracker not visit n1
d)again, redirection confusion. to be fair i did choose to believe your story until mask gave out conflicting information

a) tracker is almost never mafia aligned. that would be totally useless, what would they do with that info besides knowing if someone had and used an active power role? in the overwhelming majority of setups mafia will have a stalker (rolecop) as their investigative role if they have one
b) i could have just claimed to have received no report again, which would have been much easier as i could have claimed that i was blocked.
c) you're misinterpreting somehow. no report = either i was blocked or the person didn't go anywhere. there's almost no reason for a tracker not to visit and i never claimed so.
d) nobody seems particularly confused right now

agreed that there should have been multiple redirection type roles but in that case why havent any town members come forward yet, i want to hear those last 3 claims

hearts qualifies as one imo. wouldn't be surprising if mafia has one too. could also be one in the last 3 claims.

blush claimed roleblocker
winking claimed defender (roleblocks and prevents someone from being guised)

one of the two is maf

in my biased opinion a 50/50 between two blockers is much better than an un-cc'd tracker but that's just me y'dig

 

[Thinking]

d) nobody seems particularly confused right now

thats not true i am very confused rn

hearts qualifies as one imo. wouldn't be surprising if mafia has one too. could also be one in the last 3 claims.

ok that actually makes a little bit of sense, things still dont add up entirely but that is a good start

i would like to know what you think of mask then, since in your point of view they would have to be a mafia aligned watcher.

also i have to go to bed i cant be up thinking of things 24/7 sadly

 

[Unamused]

i would like to know what you think of mask then, since in your point of view they would have to be a mafia aligned watcher.

also i have to go to bed i cant be up thinking of things 24/7 sadly

i'd honestly be more inclined to believe that hearts claimed their real role but is mafia and lying but it's all kinda just speculation. i don't really like how mask is playing at the moment, very non-committal and someone pointed out before that one of their posts seemed to be a setup for jumping on a bandwagon later with little to no explanation or commitment to the vote. mafia aligned watcher doesn't sound too likely though, plus they knew your target before you posted about it (iirc?), which means they're probably town so that brings me back to thinking hearts is lying. extremely hard to get a read on them though, so it would be nice if they'd drop the upbeat demeanor

 

[Blush]

I guess obviously the 3 players who haven't claimed don't have anything useful to add or I trust they would've put forth useful info. With the deadline approaching...

I think mask is the mafia between them and unamused. For one reason, the post I quoted above. For another, Unamused doesn't play at all like a mafia. What mafia would say somebody visited themselves and claim a bunch of contradicting evidence that makes them look scummy.

Don't get me wrong, unamused looks scummy, but I just can't see their actions as a mafia player's actions. So I'm going to vote Mask

If Mask flips mafia/unamused flips town I'm calling the 3 man teamup of Mask, Winking, and Thinking (who all support each other's actions) and then there's probably a 4th mafia that's either one of the quiet ones or Halo. The sponge claim is sketchy but I'd lean towards the quiet ones over Halo.

Vote Mask

 

[Blush]

blush - i think they are mafia since winking claimed. blush has been willing to lynch shades and is waiting for every claim before revealing their opinions.

This is unfair. One claim could literally change the entire day. Why would I waste my time revealing my opinions when one claim could invalidate that?

I'm a little dumbfounded that you believe someone who conveniently "forgot" they were a roleblocker until it came time to massclaim

 

[Mask]

...you do realize unamused contradicted your claim today, right?

you said i visited yum night 2 while unamused said i visited myself night 2

both cannot be true

could there not be a bus role or some other role effecting his results?

i just don't understand why he would bring attention to himself for no reason by lying

 

[Mask]

could there not be a bus role or some other role effecting his results?

i just don't understand why he would bring attention to himself for no reason by lying

to explain, if thinking was swapped, thinking would look like he visited yum for me as I watched his target, not himself

but would look like the player they were swapped with to unamused

 

[Blush]

to explain, if thinking was swapped, thinking would look like he visited yum for me as I watched his target, not himself

but would look like the player they were swapped with to unamused

What are your reads if not unamused?

 

[Mask]

What are your reads if not unamused?

joy as previously mentioned and also now you

joy's claimed role seems weird and a bit fabricated plus they also visited yum that night and it's unlikely 3 town roles all visited the same player

ur previous post looks like it's trying to shift focus on to some larger conspiracy for no reason, linking all of us purely because our claims back each other up to a degree even though we don't all agree nor have the same play style and then voting for me over unamused with that idea in m ind seems antitown

out of two options you are acknowledging one guy is very scummy but then choosing to go for the conspiracy as i say/

i believe you want to lynch me then when i flip innocent 180 and lynch unamused who will also flip innocent

 

[Blush]

joy as previously mentioned and also now you

joy's claimed role seems weird and a bit fabricated plus they also visited yum that night and it's unlikely 3 town roles all visited the same player

ur previous post looks like it's trying to shift focus on to some larger conspiracy for no reason, linking all of us purely because our claims back each other up to a degree even though we don't all agree nor have the same play style and then voting for me over unamused with that idea in m ind seems antitown

out of two options you are acknowledging one guy is very scummy but then choosing to go for the conspiracy as i say/

i believe you want to lynch me then when i flip innocent 180 and lynch unamused who will also flip innocent

I can admit that I might be falling into the mindset of "it has to be one or the other" when it could be neither. I think the tipping point for you was the post I quoted earlier about hammering on Unamused. The thing is, you guys are all linked to a degree. You're the outlier here as you're not voting for Unamused like thinking and winking are, but if it turns out one of you three are mafia it turns into a very likely scenario that your night action claims were all made in an attempt to back each other up. I don't see how play styles have to do with if you're connected as mafia or not. I also don't think saying I'm focusing on a larger conspiracy has no reason, if I'm right then we're connecting 3 mafia together.

I didn't say Unamused is very scummy, I'm saying he looks scummy because his night actions don't match up with other peoples. But if I think past how it just looks, his actions don't insinuate mafia. Your surface actions don't scream mafia, but why would you hammer someone you're trying to defend?

But again, I can admit it may be neither of you and the "one or the other" mentality isn't necessarily the right choice. I'm going to leave my vote though, but I'll try to keep an open mind on that it doesn't have to be you or unamused today, and I may change it as things develop

 

[Blush]

i believe you want to lynch me then when i flip innocent 180 and lynch unamused who will also flip innocent

If you think I want to do this, why do you not have the same problems with the people who are voting unamused? If you think he's innocent and it turns out he is, why aren't you worried about people like thinking, winking, and yum flipping and lynching you tomorrow? I don't know how many mafia are in the game but I'm almost certain if we lynch 2 townies in a row we lose the game. So why is it just a problem with me, but not with the other people who could easily do what you describe?

It seems weird you're "defending" unamused but not really "defending" him.

 

[Hearts]

i'd honestly be more inclined to believe that hearts claimed their real role but is mafia and lying but it's all kinda just speculation. i don't really like how mask is playing at the moment, very non-committal and someone pointed out before that one of their posts seemed to be a setup for jumping on a bandwagon later with little to no explanation or commitment to the vote. mafia aligned watcher doesn't sound too likely though, plus they knew your target before you posted about it (iirc?), which means they're probably town so that brings me back to thinking hearts is lying. extremely hard to get a read on them though, so it would be nice if they'd drop the upbeat demeanor

You were arguing for the possibility for a redirection role since your result contradicted what others have stated, but now you think I'm suspicious because I claimed a role that works in your favour? Ever since my claim, it felt like you shifted your efforts on making me suspicious, asking me who I visited when I included them in the post or insisting that I'm lying about some aspect. Yet, you think I'm not lying about my role, just my alignment. Why would a protective role be mafia-sided?

On that note:

a) tracker is almost never mafia aligned. that would be totally useless, what would they do with that info besides knowing if someone had and used an active power role? in the overwhelming majority of setups mafia will have a stalker (rolecop) as their investigative role if they have one

This is way too dismissing and honestly kind of a weird argument. You're claiming Mask is suspicious, but ignoring that both Watchers and Trackers can be mafia-sided.

 

[Mask]

Your surface actions don't scream mafia, but why would you hammer someone you're trying to defend?

It seems weird you're "defending" unamused but not really "defending" him.

i am not trying to defend him per se

but with 4 dead townies we need to think carefully before we lynch if a majority wants unamused lynched (thus both townies and mafia) then i will go with my instincts and lynch him.

i just don't want him to get bandwagoned by mafia if he is indeed innocent and add fuel if there is more to this.

i still want to know what people think of a bus role

 

[Mask]

and in temrs of larger conspiracy, i mean it as in, if we're all backing up each other's claims isn't it more likely we're all telling the truth rather than lying?

would it not be more the case if unamused was lying?

 

[Blush]

and in temrs of larger conspiracy, i mean it as in, if we're all backing up each other's claims isn't it more likely we're all telling the truth rather than lying?

would it not be more the case if unamused was lying?

Not really, I mean if you were all mafia wouldn't you want your night actions to support your version of events? But we could go back and forth on that forever I feel like.

i am not trying to defend him per se

but with 4 dead townies we need to think carefully before we lynch if a majority wants unamused lynched (thus both townies and mafia) then i will go with my instincts and lynch him.

i just don't want him to get bandwagoned by mafia if he is indeed innocent and add fuel if there is more to this.

i still want to know what people think of a bus role

Fair enough.

There's definitely a mafia bus, too many weird night action stuff has happened for there not to be