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if it comes down to it I would vote notty if other people also think she could be 3rd party. twg i'm not sure. You did seem to strike a nerve when you called susp on him.

wait in my memory your reason for thinking twg was scum was that you jailed him and only 1 kill happend rite?
my very initial reason was that I found his vote on aqua suspicious, and that's why I decided to block him that night

then when there was only 1 kill, my suspicion was amplified

then when I accused him, his responses to me amplified my suspicion even more

the middle part about the 1 kill has now been invalidated but his vote on aqua and responses to my accusations, and just now his sudden shift from 'I think inf is unlikely to be mafia jailer' to 'I might vote you because your're not really defending yourself? your votes aren't gaining traction so vote elsewhere?' which I don't believe at all make me 99% sure he is scum

if you're happy to vote notty then I'm happy to as well, like I said I'll go with notty or twg, I'm confident both will lynch threats so I'm fine with whichever
 

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the middle part about the 1 kill has now been invalidated but his vote on aqua and responses to my accusations, and just now his sudden shift from 'I think inf is unlikely to be mafia jailer' to 'I might vote you because your're not really defending yourself? your votes aren't gaining traction so vote elsewhere?' which I don't believe at all make me 99% sure he is scum
and even without his latest post, just going off his vote on aqua and his OTT reaction to my accusations make me confident he's scum, and that's why I've been happy to vote him all day
 

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then when there was only 1 kill, my suspicion was amplified

then when I accused him, his responses to me amplified my suspicion even more

the middle part about the 1 kill has now been invalidated but his vote on aqua and responses to my accusations, and just now his sudden shift from 'I think inf is unlikely to be mafia jailer' to 'I might vote you because your're not really defending yourself? your votes aren't gaining traction so vote elsewhere?' which I don't believe at all make me 99% sure he is scum
ye was about to say, at least id say that if notty is 3rd party she might still have that dousing stuff, which would kinda explain why there was only 1 kill.

I'll probably go back and re-check on your and twg's convo before I would place my vote, but I wouldn't be very opposed to voting him. Notty could do as well, but i still have a slight vibe she could be telling the truth.
 

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here's my thoughts

inf is mafia (literally its essentially 100%)

notty is SK (while the vig argument holds some ground, the possibilities that one doesnt exist/the 'real vig' understands that quite a lot of people are susp of notty (atleast i think they are) and so is choosing not to CC at this point in time since a lynch on notty without having to claim is possible in the (near) future or they prefer an inf/someone else lynch today and so will not CC yet (this is not me softclaiming vig btw))

twg could be mafia (infs attacks against him do make some sense but this full effort attack when i think inf (who is 100% mafia) is about to die today could be a bus that is meant to fail and so confirm twg in most peoples eyes)

hk is probably mafia (inf had like fairly unexplained townreads on him d0 and look at them being chummy above without being too obvious of teaming i see through your lies)

while this means a notty lynch is valid, i think that inf's full on attack against them as well (i mean it is the most viable other lynch option to save himself) could be a means of saving omni from being ignited tonight (since omni is possibly mafia), so an inf lynch today and a notty lynch tomorrow/a future day (unless notty is somehow cleared by someone tonight/future nights if a better lynch option is apparent tomorrow) is valid so!
 

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while this means a notty lynch is valid, i think that inf's full on attack against them as well (i mean it is the most viable other lynch option to save himself) could be a means of saving omni from being ignited tonight (since omni is possibly mafia), so an inf lynch today and a notty lynch tomorrow/a future day (unless notty is somehow cleared by someone tonight/future nights if a better lynch option is apparent tomorrow) is valid so!
I'm not even voting notty but I will switch if enough people are for it, I didn't launch some 'full attack' on them

if I was trying to save omni (my teammate) then why am I pushing for TWG too and saying I'm fine leaving notty until tomorrow
 

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i actually wrote a bit more on that in my post and deleted it since ??

but
inf could be mafia jailer (matty wasnt lying but his allignment is still unconfirmed)
inf could be mafia non-jailer (matty was lying and is mafia too)

and yeah thats it
why would mafia even make use of a jailer, all mafia roles should exist to further their cause, a blocker who also protects their victim from kills doesn't make sense

you'd either have a mafia sided pure blocker (so you don't accidentally stop your victim from being saved, and so you can block + kill them in one go), or a mafia sided protector (so you can save your team without making them useless)
 

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I'm not even voting notty but I will switch if enough people are for it, I didn't launch some 'full attack' on them

if I was trying to save omni (my teammate) then why am I pushing for TWG too and saying I'm fine leaving notty until tomorrow
i mean i think your like 5 page back and forth with notty calling them a liar could be classed as a full on attack by some people

and time to use that special 1 word that leaves mafia shook
wifom
but yeah thats a valid point grats
 

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why would mafia even make use of a jailer, all mafia roles should exist to further their cause, a blocker who also protects their victim from kills doesn't make sense

you'd either have a mafia sided pure blocker (so you don't accidentally stop your victim from being saved, and so you can block + kill them in one go), or a mafia sided protector (so you can save your team without making them useless)
a) no idea of how powers/traits were distributed in this setup
b) provides you this argument if powers/traits were assigned specifically
c) mafia possibly have very strong powers and so your double edged sword ability still provide a relatively strong power without it being perfect
 

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i mean i think your like 5 page back and forth with notty calling them a liar could be classed as a full on attack by some people
that wasn't a full on attack, I was responding to her posts

again if you think my goal was to launch a full on attack to save omni why did I even bother trying to get TWG lynched
 

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a) no idea of how powers/traits were distributed in this setup
b) provides you this argument if powers/traits were assigned specifically
c) mafia possibly have very strong powers and so your double edged sword ability still provide a relatively strong power without it being perfect
a) I mean it's not gonna be completely random is it, mafia team with nothing useful for their agenda isn't going to happen
b) then what's the point of the role cops if the mafia are given townie roles anyway
c) I mean I guess?
 

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that wasn't a full on attack, I was responding to her posts

again if you think my goal was to launch a full on attack to save omni why did I even bother trying to get TWG lynched
but yeah thats a valid point grats
and i didnt say it was a full on attack to save omni i said it could be but also provides you the most viable lynch option (that most people would follow since i dont think/dont think you thought that most people would follow a twg vote (hence the idea youre possibly bussing him))
 

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and i didnt say it was a full on attack to save omni i said it could be but also provides you the most viable lynch option (that most people would follow since i dont think/dont think you thought that most people would follow a twg vote (hence the idea youre possibly bussing him))
I claimed I jailed him and there was 1 kill, I'm pretty sure if shadow hadn't have said he blocked me then a TWG lynch would have gone down a lot easier so your theory that I didn't expect anyone to go for him after I even made a claim that was fairly incriminating and backed up why I thought the setup would have multiple kills doesn't really make sense to me
 

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a) I mean it's not gonna be completely random is it, mafia team with nothing useful for their agenda isn't going to happen
b) then what's the point of the role cops if the mafia are given townie roles anyway
c) I mean I guess?
a) maybe some roles were assigned specifically, some were randomized, there is no certainty in a modular setup! (or whatever alpha said this was)
b) what, i dont think you can class powers as inherently townie or mafia (otherwise thered be no point imo?) but i get what you're trying to say, but whats the difference in this and a godfather
c) yeah thats right you guess
 

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I claimed I jailed him and there was 1 kill, I'm pretty sure if shadow hadn't have said he blocked me then a TWG lynch would have gone down a lot easier so your theory that I didn't expect anyone to go for him after I even made a claim that was fairly incriminating and backed up why I thought the setup would have multiple kills doesn't really make sense to me
i mean i disagree but
 

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a) maybe some roles were assigned specifically, some were randomized, there is no certainty in a modular setup! (or whatever alpha said this was)
b) what, i dont think you can class powers as inherently townie or mafia (otherwise thered be no point imo?) but i get what you're trying to say, but whats the difference in this and a godfather
c) yeah thats right you guess
a) I mean I guess but I don't think so
b) the difference is that a godfather has no other ability, their whole purpose is to be the one the rest of the team protects. to have a role that both blocks and also has an ability that makes them seem townie just seems strange to me but that's just my opinion since I know I'm right about it not being a mafia role
 

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a) I mean I guess but I don't think so
b) the difference is that a godfather has no other ability, their whole purpose is to be the one the rest of the team protects. to have a role that both blocks and also has an ability that makes them seem townie just seems strange to me but that's just my opinion since I know I'm right about it not being a mafia role
a) nah you shalt think so like you guessed with c infact where did c go you monster dont remove c
c) c is back in business and its better than ever so much so that it comes before b
b) im fairly certain in some setups godfathers have had abilities (im not gonna be a tryhard who goes looking for them tho) but yeah thats right its your opinion and your opinion cant be trusted mafia scum
 

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I still don't understand why you think I've been trying to save omni and lynch notty when this whole time I've been gunning for TWG, or why you think I expected that to fail when I went pretty hard at him and even claimed to incriminate him, but alright I'm gonna consider you a lost cause and you can have a repeat of c9++ where you convinced everyone I was mafia when I was the cop (that's right I'm using notty 101 tactics of reminding you of your past failure!)
 

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I still don't understand why you think I've been trying to save omni and lynch notty when this whole time I've been gunning for TWG, or why you think I expected that to fail when I went pretty hard at him and even claimed to incriminate him, but alright I'm gonna consider you a lost cause and you can have a repeat of c9++ where you convinced everyone I was mafia when I was the cop (that's right I'm using notty 101 tactics of reminding you of your past failure!)
what
i swear we literally just wrapped this up and i said valid point on the omni thing
and lynch notty did you not just call them a liar and a 3p arsonist :thinking:
and ??????? please explain that analogy further since that has no relation in my mind?? (i mean i dont understand what youre talking about in c9++ since who remembers past games in detail other than weirdos)
 

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what
i swear we literally just wrapped this up and i said valid point on the omni thing
I mean yeah but then you said 'wifom' which assumes I did all that still not expecting TWG to be lynched, which is the thing I'm still argueing against

and lynch notty did you not just call them a liar and a 3p arsonist :thinking:
yes but I've been calling TWG mafia this whole time too and that's where my vote is, but yes I'm fine lynching notty as well because they're scum

and ??????? please explain that analogy further since that has no relation in my mind?? (i mean i dont understand what youre talking about in c9++ since who remembers past games in detail other than weirdos)
you're so certain I'm mafia because of your read on me so I'm reminding you of when you had this feeling of certainty before in C9+ and you lynched me along with the mafia and you were wrong, I was the cop
 
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