The Pearled Bridge - Game Complete!
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Thanks forum software for spoilers being weird or whatever. Pinging everyone so we can get some more posts and activity in the game!
77thShad
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Danni122112
Dess
Duffie
hipmeow
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Infected_alien8_
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Nottykitten
Omni
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TheWeakGuy48_
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77thShad
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Danni122112
Dess
Duffie
hipmeow
HKCaper
Infected_alien8_
Matty
Mooglie
Nottykitten
Omni
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Rune
Shadow_Hunter3
TheWeakGuy48_
Unusual_Dood
Infected_alien8_
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she was under a fair amount of suspicion, it makes sense as third party she'd claim to survive - she even said that she was expecting to be possibly lynched today and that's exactly why she chose to douse omni last night - I can get the quote if you want - so that we'd let her live to ignite him, so clearly she was already preparing for worst case scenario, and her claim today was another way to secure her survival one more night
she claimed vigilante because she had to claim her true powers in case a power inspector investigated her - if she'd claimed to be something else, she'd put herself at risk of getting caught out lying, but if she claims the powers she actually has as an arsonist (prime and ignite) then she can get away with it
but in order to do that she needs to come up with a believable claim that makes use of those powers but is town sided - a town sided killing role, a vigilante who works like an arsonist
so she planned all that out, decided to prime omni so that we'd let her live so that she could ignite one of our suspicions, and claim vigilante so that she'd try to stop the 'third party rumours' that kept circling her - she also said this and I can get that quote too if you want
that's my opinion obviously, but there's an answer to your "there's no reason for notty to claim vigilante if she's not"
anyway it looks like this day has pretty much run its course, can everyone please place their votes now
I'll go with notty or twg whichever is more popular, and to show that and stop people just voting notty over twg just because she has 2 votes I'll unvote and re-vote once others have voted
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Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Because then I would of killed a Mafia we've been over this Inf.
You're acting as if nothing in this world can make someone proven town because 'OH BUT THEY COULD BE THIRD PARTY'. Same goes for you and every single of your town reads. 'They might not be law but they could be third party' is an argument against literally every single person in this game so it holds no water against me
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
killing mafia in no way makes you more likely to be townie than third party
and no, my town reads are because I specifically think they:
1) have the town win condition
2) are in the majority team against minority teams
my reads aren't just 'they helped us kill mafia so they're town' - I mean we haven't even killed any mafia so I don't know where you're getting that from anyway
my reads aren't 'I don't think they're law so they're town' at all
and if you kill omni and he's mafia that will have 0 weight on whether you're town or third party because it perfectly matches your win condition either way, and I'll still think you're third party because you're clearly not town to me
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
But this doesn't prove them town
But this doesn't prove them town
But this doesn't prove them town
This is literally the argument you're using against me, saying people who townread me if Omni flips Mafia shouldn't because not a single thing in the universe can prove me town. And it's a trash argument
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
it doesn't prove them town no, but it makes me believe they're town
you killing mafia won't make me believe you're town, because why should it? why should you killing mafia, despite me not thinking you have the town win condition or are in the majority party, be on the same 'townie' level for me than someone who I actually believe has the townie win condition and is in the majority party, when killing mafia is also something third party should do?
if you want a town read, do something that specifically makes you seem townie, like showing us you have the town wincon through your behaviour, which, for me, you've not done, you've done the opposite by saying things that I know notty would never say as town, because I know they're not genuinely things you believe - you don't really believe there's no way to distinguish between town and third party, I know that, you know that, but you're acting like you do here because you're lying to survive. and also all the other things I've called you out for doing over the last couple of pages which I'm not going to go into again because they've already been said and there's no point in repeating myself
killing mafia is something both you as a townie and you as a third party would want to do
outside of that action, you seem third party to me, and definitely anti-town
so obviously I'm still going to believe you're third party
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Your argument is literally 'I think you're third party' and using that to say nobody else should town read me because 'nothing proves them town they could be third party!!!!!!!!!!'.
Maybe you should accept that people dont have to follow your reads and if they town-read me for killing Omni then thats their read and just because you think I'm third party doesn't mean they're automatically forced to
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
I'm not forcing anyone to not believe you're town
I'm saying that killing omni, even if he's mafia, isn't necessarily a townie action, so to believe you're town solely based off of that isn't something that makes sense
if they think you're town because of their intuition, fair enough
but thinking you're town just because you kill omni as mafia doesn't make sense, so I'm debunking that
If Omni flips mafia, it doesn't matter what alignment Notty has, we'll deal with her later. I mean if she was 3rd party she probably wouldn't claim vigilante - as it'd be dangerous because we could have a real vigilante who would kill her
Anyways, I'm gonna vote for Danni instead mainly because Danni's activity and it'll put some pressure on him and Omni is gonna die tonight, no matter what.
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Infected_alien8_
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she had no choice but to claim vigilante if she is arsonist
walk through this with me,
if she's an arsonist, she has the powers Prime and Ignite, right?
so say she comes under some suspicion and decides she needs to make a fake claim - she also knows however, that power inspection roles exist - anyone could visit her tonight and learn what powers she truly possesses, or at any point in the game for that matter. so if you claims to have a power that she doesn't have, that's it, game over if someone investigates her, she's lost
so to get around that, she decides not to lie about her powers, meaning her claim has to include having Prime and Ignite
Prime and Ignite is a killing ability, so whatever role she claims, if she wants to tell the truth about her powers to avoid being caught out, she now is forced to claim a town killing role (vigilante)
so that's exactly what she did
and that's exactly what I personally think happened, alongside her deciding to douse omni last night to try to persuade us to keep her alive to kill him since he's a suspect, which she's already confirmed is what she did
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
It's a nice fairytale and sure if I were an arsonist maybe thats what I'd do (although then ofcourse I'd never of gotten under suspicion in the first place for claiming my name or my powers), but yeah I doused Omni exactly with the intent of telling people to keep me alive so I can prove my worth. It's a good strategy and it can easely get a Mafia for us, which advances my town wincondition so thats like two birds with one ignite.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Anyone doubting whether there are town intentions behind my posts/actions will have a clearer picture once Omni flips Mafia. For you this means nothing since you've already made up your mind.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Because anyone who is not sure of my alignment, might be able to town-read me based on all posts i've made so far and once Omni flips Mafia they will see a town narrative behind it which is exactly what it is.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
also TWG although I get what you mean about taking a risk of getting shot by a real vigilante if she claimed, she probably banked on the idea that the vigilante would either not exist or be a RID/TID one, instead of banking on a power inspection role not investigating her
that's what I think at least
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
a non-law narrative arguably yes, but killing omni doesn't mean they were town intentions, they're still very easily (and in my opinion hugely more likely) third party
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Banking on a 17% chance btw. I've already argued I think an RID/TID vig would still CC me so I wouldn't bank on that either, though granted you don't think the same or think I actually believe that.
That said I'm your real vigilante and you should bank on me.
But just likely every other town read you get of peoples posts/actions/intentions, people can town read me just the same when coupling my kill on Omni together with everything i've posted so far.
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i still see inffy as mafia after his claim (because like law and jails yknow wow)
his play style has been a weird kind of reckless and he immediately comments a negative thing about anyone who opposes his posts then makes like a decapost so everyone falls asleep while catching up to mafia (this is why i disappeared sorry) also his reaction to aqua dying was honestly off and kind of cheery like "well i did a bad thing but let's move on to lynch twg!"
im not entirely sure on notty being town but they're either town or 3p and im willing to lynch inffy first
i was waiting for things to play out before voting but this seems to be just it and so
vote inffy
his play style has been a weird kind of reckless and he immediately comments a negative thing about anyone who opposes his posts then makes like a decapost so everyone falls asleep while catching up to mafia (this is why i disappeared sorry) also his reaction to aqua dying was honestly off and kind of cheery like "well i did a bad thing but let's move on to lynch twg!"
im not entirely sure on notty being town but they're either town or 3p and im willing to lynch inffy first
i was waiting for things to play out before voting but this seems to be just it and so
vote inffy
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