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[Nottykitten]

because a town vig would be given kill, not prime/ignite

the whole point of power/ignite is so that you can have multiple kills

it's basically saying 'here's 10 kills but you can only use 1'

'okay, why didn't you just give me 1 kill to start with then?'

No the whole point of power/ignite is to make it take 2 days, kill defeats that purpose. You seem to think it's only to be SURE of your target, but it's also to make sure the vig can't instantly kill someone. Prime/ignite adds a layer of skill because you have to be tactical about who you select.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

hey lets give this vig a power which literally loses its unique killing feature if it only has one use.

e x a c t l y

 

[Unusual_Dood]

oh fair enough

but why do you think lynching out of those is worse than me even if I'm townie?

It is basically that your number 1, 2 and 3 on the suspicion list aren't people I particularly suspect, and you seem to quickly gain support. What I think will happen is that we might mislynch one of those, and next day we lynch between you and one of the remaining 2(of your suspects), and I have low faith in that going well.

 

[Nottykitten]

hey lets give this vig a power which literally loses its unique killing feature if it only has one use.

*Alpha will remember this*

 

[Infected_alien8_]

No the whole point of power/ignite is to make it take 2 days, kill defeats that purpose. You seem to think it's only to be SURE of your target, but it's also to make sure the vig can't instantly kill someone. Prime/ignite adds a layer of skill because you have to be tactical about who you select.

there is 0 reason the hosts wanted to force the vigilante to not be able to instantly kill someone

tactical about who you select has nothing to do with that

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Who hasn't voted yet?

 

[Nottykitten]

there is 0 reason the hosts wanted to force the vigilante to not be able to instantly kill someone

tactical about who you select has nothing to do with that

It has everything to do with that, you'd have to tactically select your douse targets on suspicious enough people so that if information against them comes out you can kill them at a whims notice, however if you don't have the right person doused then you won't be able to kill that person during the night unless you want to wait 2 nights. It's a layer of skill.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It is basically that your number 1, 2 and 3 on the suspicion list aren't people I particularly suspect, and you seem to quickly gain support. What I think will happen is that we might mislynch one of those, and next day we lynch between you and one of the remaining 2(of your suspects), and I have low faith in that going well.

fair

still though, kill notty today, then kill me tomorrow if you want, I won't even resist if we kill notty today because I know I'm suspicious to too many people to survive

tomorrow I'll put my vote on TWG and I'll keep it there and if people pile on me then so be it, I've done all I can basically

 

[hipmeow]

there is 0 reason the hosts wanted to force the vigilante to not be able to instantly kill someone

plus if they did wanted to give their vig a delayed kill they would give them poison

 

[Shadow_Hunter3]

Who hasn't voted yet?

comp danny and pink

 

[Nottykitten]

Who hasn't voted yet?

Comp, Danni, Pink.

Only other people not on me/Inf are Weak and Matty.

 

[Nottykitten]

plus if they did wanted to give their vig a delayed kill they would give them poison

Poison doesn't add the layer of skill and is more risk than reward. Prime/ignite gives the Vig a chance to change their mind after the first night.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It has everything to do with that, you'd have to tactically select your douse targets on suspicious enough people so that if information against them comes out you can kill them at a whims notice, however if you don't have the right person doused then you won't be able to kill that person during the night unless you want to wait 2 nights. It's a layer of skill.

there's no difference between that 'skill' and waiting to see who you want to kill during the night and having to decide 'do I do it tonight or do I wait until tomorrow in case they manage to prove themselves'

 

[hipmeow]

It has everything to do with that, you'd have to tactically select your douse targets on suspicious enough people so that if information against them comes out you can kill them at a whims notice, however if you don't have the right person doused then you won't be able to kill that person during the night unless you want to wait 2 nights. It's a layer of skill.

you seem to like stats in that in 80-something% of games theres some sort of vig, can you tell the percentage of games where an arsonist sort of power is used in this fashion??

 

[hipmeow]

you seem to like stats in that in 80-something% of games theres some sort of vig, can you tell the percentage of games where an arsonist sort of power is used in this fashion??

used in this fashion on a vig role*

 

[Nottykitten]

there's no difference between that 'skill' and waiting to see who you want to kill during the night and having to decide 'do I do it tonight or do I wait until tomorrow in case they manage to prove themselves'

There is because the entire point is that it takes 2 days. instant kill takes 1 day and is instant what is there to not get Alpha wanted the Vig to take 2 days and made it prime/ignite instead of poison for skill reasons and less risk

 

[Infected_alien8_]

There is because the entire point is that it takes 2 days. instant kill takes 1 day and is instant what is there to not get Alpha wanted the Vig to take 2 days and made it prime/ignite instead of poison for skill reasons and less risk

taking 2 days doesn't add skill it adds pointless wait

 

[Nottykitten]

you seem to like stats in that in 80-something% of games theres some sort of vig, can you tell the percentage of games where an arsonist sort of power is used in this fashion??

0% but thats a loaded percentage because we've only had a singular use of prime/ignite pretty sure in the entire history of Mafia. If you subscribe to this theory of third parties not being like this surely you should subscribe to the theory of a vigilante likely being in this game and having CC'd me by now.

 

[Nottykitten]

taking 2 days doesn't add skill it adds pointless wait

I mean clearly dousing someone adds skill because you're using it as an argument to lynch me. Saying that i'd hold weak's life hostage by having doused him tomorrow and promising to ignite him.

Clearly dousing the right person can do wonders

 

[hipmeow]

surely you should subscribe to the theory of a vigilante likely being in this game and having CC'd me by now.

but why would they CC you

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I mean clearly dousing someone adds skill because you're using it as an argument to lynch me. Saying that i'd hold weak's life hostage by having doused him tomorrow and promising to ignite him.

Clearly dousing the right person can do wonders

the only reason the hosts would purposefully give you that ability just you'd need to use that 'skill' is if you weren't town

 

[Nottykitten]

the only reason the hosts would purposefully give you that ability just you'd need to use that 'skill' is if you weren't town

I've clearly had to use it as town because if I hadn't doused Omni I'd of been bandwagoned toast a long time ago.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I've clearly had to use it as town because if I hadn't doused Omni I'd of been bandwagoned toast a long time ago.

yes because you're third party and we figured it out

when you make a game you don't make a town role and expect them to be suspected and expect them to claim their powers and give them abilities to add 'skill' to defending themselves

 

[Nottykitten]

yes because you're third party and we figured it out

when you make a game you don't make a town role and expect them to be suspected and expect them to claim their powers and give them abilities to add 'skill' to defending themselves

Maybe not but you know me thats exactly how I use an ability like this even as town.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Maybe not but you know me thats exactly how I use an ability like this even as town.

yeah so what's the point of it other than the way you're using it?

the hosts assigned roles randomly so if the only reason for prime/ignite is so that notty can use it to blackmail town into letting her live, that wouldn't be a thing

 

[Nottykitten]

Time to ask a super biased/manipulative question but TheWeakGuy48_ would you want us arguing for another 2 hours about CC's (argument had 54 times) or about why a vig would have these powers. General concensus seems to be that if Inf's not Mafia, you are so why don't you take your stand and prove you're on the towns side and get rid of him, or atleast take a stand and join Infs side against me but watching from the sidelines feels pointless

yeah so what's the point of it other than the way you're using it?

the hosts assigned roles randomly so if the only reason for prime/ignite is so that notty can use it to blackmail town into letting her live, that wouldn't be a thing

The point is that you have to be skillful about who you douse, because you can only kill that single person the next night. If you choose wrong and you want to kill someone else instead you'd have to re-douse first thats why dousing the right person is important